Realistically how many current players do you think will go to the NBA?

[timkay99]

Well, the next NBA draft won't be until the year 2015, so it's going to be tough for some of our upperclassmen to get there...

 

[AZOrange]

Not sure what you're asking with the first question. I'm talking about taking a team's roster from one season and counting up the number of guys who are eventually drafted, which is what I thought you meant in your original post. The 2010 Kentucky team you reference had five guys drafted in 2010, one drafted in 2011 and maybe Darius Miller is drafted in the future. That would be 7 players, which isn't close to 10.

Again, you're looking at something that's very rare and thinking SU can achieve the same just because it happened fairly recently.

And no, I don't think Scoop will average 8 assists per game. That's no knock on him. It's just VERY hard to do.

Have we ever had so many 4-5 star guys playing on one team though?

 

[jekelish]

Particularly since the guard rotation is so deep this year, I'll be shocked if Scoop gets enough of an opportunity to put up those numbers.

 

[Knicks411]

"How many teams in history have had 7 or 8 players drafted? Probably a few--1996 Kentucky comes to mind--but it's extremely rare. At best, there is a slight chance SU, or any team, will have that many players drafted."

Over a period of 4 years? ALOT Kentucky just had 5 in 1st round a year ago. And the past has nothing to do with The now and the program we have become?? Which IMO IS "Kansas" Elite now.

And with all these scoring options you really don't think Scoop can cut back on the shots and just rak up assist, he's a very good ball handler and pretty good passer.

It's not just over a period of 4 years, they all have to be on the same team.

Kentucky had 5 first round picks in 2010. And who else from that team is going to make the NBA? Maybe Darius Miller? S0 6.

The past has everything to do with it. Go find a team that had 10 players on it drafted into the NBA. Even 7 or 8 is ridiculous; I do think 96 Kentucky had it. But that's like one team. One of the most ridiculously talented teams ever.

This is from a fansite, so take it for what it's worth.

"This team tied the unofficial record of most players to have made the NBA with nine. [The other teams in question are the '81-82 UCLA Bruins (Mark Eaton, Ralph Jackson, Michael Holton, Darren Daye, Rod Foster, Brad Wright, Stuart Gray, Mike Sanders and Kenny Fields) and the '90-91 North Carolina Tar Heels (Pete Chilcutt, Rick Fox, Hubert Davis, George Lynch, Matt Wenstrom, Eric Montross, Derrick Phelps, Clifford Rozier and Kevin Salvadori)]."

So basically, you're saying this team, based on 4 games against terrible teams, has a chance to break this record.

Edit: Blacksquirrels, who from UK was drafted last year? Brandon Knight wouldn't count, he was a frosh last year. Or, Harrallson, right? How could I forget.

 

[Knicks411]

Have we ever had so many 4-5 star guys playing on one team though?

I don't know, referring to recruiting ratings? How many 4-5 stars do we have right now, Melo, Rak, MCW, Dion; am I forgetting anyone? None of the other guys were really all that highly rated, from what I remember.

The 2009 team, until Devo got hurt, had 4 McDonalds AA, if you count Harris, who made it and was taken off.

Oh yeah, I find it very hard to believe Scoop averages 8 assits per game last year. I think like 3 people have averaged that many in the last 5 years.

 

[AZOrange]

I don't know, referring to recruiting ratings? How many 4-5 stars do we have right now, Melo, Rak, MCW, Dion; am I forgetting anyone? None of the other guys were really all that highly rated, from what I remember.

The 2009 team, until Devo got hurt, had 4 McDonalds AA, if you count Harris, who made it and was taken off.

Oh yeah, I find it very hard to believe Scoop averages 8 assits per game last year. I think like 3 people have averaged that many in the last 5 years.

This is (kind of how I remember it)...

Melo (5), Waiters (5), XMas (5), MCW (5), Cooney (4), Fair (4), Scoop was a 4 wasnt he? Triche was up there for awhile too but I think his final rank might have been a 3? JSouth, Joseph and Baye were the low ones.

 

[Knicks411]

Melo (5), Waiters (5), XMas (5), MCW (5), Cooney (4), Fair (4), Scoop was a 4 wasnt he? Triche was up there for awhile too but I think his final rank might have been a 3? JSouth, Joseph and Baye were the low ones.

I am not sure how the star ratings work. Cooney was 79th in the RSCI rankings. Fair was 96. Scoop was 48. I don't know how many 4, 5 star guys there are.

I'd think Fair wouldn;t be a 4 star if he was 96th in the RSCI; seems to be diluting the term. Ditto Cooney. The guys I mentioned were all top 30, which seems pretty fair. Scoop at 48 is probably borderline, I'm guessing?

If you go as far down as 80 in the RSCI rankings, the 2005 team would've had Roberts, Watkins, Nichols, Edelin (was he there in 05, can't remmeber), Forth, Josh and Dayshawn Wright (LOL), and Gerry.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Baye, if he continues to improve, could be a draft pick after his senior year.

I think fewer 4 year players get drafted compared to underclassmen and foreign dudes. NBA loves to draft on potential. They would rather have a raw 19 or 20 year old than a 23 year old grizzled college veteran.

 

[tbonezone]

And the best FU to everyone will be if Mookie is the only one who makes it.

does mars have a franchise?
however i do like baye keita's chances

 

[Su Grad Wannabe]

Robin Lopez got drafted as defense specialist.

Black squriel*- your right I didn't mean diff players thru 4 years (but 4 years for this group) I thought yu was refering to just one year at a time.

I see easily 5 possibly 7-8 pending how far we go in tourny and how much they individually improve. Ima book it that scoop avg 7 ast this year, he knows that's his only ticket.

Cooney are quickest Guard? Must be drunk. Waiters and MCW is the quickest.

 

[Su Grad Wannabe]

I think fewer 4 year players get drafted compared to underclassmen and foreign dudes. NBA loves to draft on potential. They would rather have a raw 19 or 20 year old than a 23 year old grizzled college veteran.

In Baye's case and a lot of other big men ,needs all 4 years. I think there the only exception,NBA would like a Grizzled big man to come in and contribute right away and not have to sit for 2 years before there NBA ready.

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

Lets not forget to add in next years signees as well. They will both clearly be NBA all stars as well. So, lets call it 12.

 

[BlackSquirrels]

Edit: Blacksquirrels, who from UK was drafted last year? Brandon Knight wouldn't count, he was a frosh last year. Or, Harrallson, right? How could I forget.

I was thinking of Liggins. I think he got selected late in the 2nd round.

 

[Su Grad Wannabe]

Lets not forget to add in next years signees as well. They will both clearly be NBA all stars as well. So, lets call it 12.

13 your missin Mookie!!

 

[Knicks411]

I see easily 5 possibly 7-8 pending how far we go in tourny and how much they individually improve. Ima book it that scoop avg 7 ast this year, he knows that's his only ticket.

We've had what, 5 players drafted over the last 8 years? I'll believe that when I see it. Joseph and Fab are the only guys I can see getting picked in the next year or two.

Where can I bet the under on Scoop getting 7 assists per game this year?

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

We've had what, 5 players drafted over the last 8 years? I'll believe that when I see it. Joseph and Fab are the only guys I can see getting picked in the next year or two.

Stop it...you obviously didn't watch the Colgate game. That is the tape the NBA scouts watch. They don't care that Southerland can't dribble against true D1 defenders, or can't get a rebound over 6'4 players half the time. They only care that he plays for SU and has some hot shooting games against cupcakes. You clearly missed how great Triche looked...in that game......one time. All these guys are NBA talent.

 

[Su Grad Wannabe]

We've had what, 5 players drafted over the last 8 years? I'll believe that when I see it. Joseph and Fab are the only guys I can see getting picked in the next year or two.

Where can I bet the under on Scoop getting 7 assists per game this year?

Rak is in every mock draft in 13 as a lottery pick. Based on wht everybody calls potential.

Waiters nd MCW are exceptional talented guards.

I'm a man of my word I'll bet 100 cash he averages around 7 and 6.5 rounds up to 7.

 

[OttoMets]

We've had what, 5 players drafted over the last 8 years? I'll believe that when I see it. Joseph and Fab are the only guys I can see getting picked in the next year or two.

Where can I bet the under on Scoop getting 7 assists per game this year?

Yeah, Scoop is my favorite player on this team, and I'm one of the small handful of people on here who regularly defend him. But he's not going to average 7 assists per game this year, much less 8. Even if he does play at a career-best level, his minutes are certainly going to be significantly reduced for at least the first third of the year.

As an aside, how does a group of allegedly knowledgeable college basketball fans have such a diversity of opinions on who the quickest guard on the team is? Cooney? Carter-Williams? That's insane. This really isn't a subjective question, and we've all seen these guys play. Even optimistic fans might make outlandish predictions about how many players will be drafted, but no one should should keep a straight face and say either of those guys is the quickest guard on the team.

 

[OttoMets]

Rak is in every mock draft in 13 as a lottery pick. Based on wht everybody calls potential.

Waiters nd MCW are exceptional talented guards.

I'm a man of my word I'll bet 100 cash he averages around 7 and 6.5 rounds up to 7.

Josh Pace and Craig Forth used to be on mock drafts, too. Those things tend to give reality a pretty wide berth.

 

[Su Grad Wannabe]

Stop it...you obviously didn't watch the Colgate game. That is the tape the NBA scouts watch. They don't care that Southerland can't dribble against true D1 defenders, or can't get a rebound over 6'4 players half the time. They only care that he plays for SU and has some hot shooting games against cupcakes. You clearly missed how great Triche looked...in that game......one time. All these guys are NBA talent.

If not NBA then Europe, and still will be making more money then yu playa. whts up with all the estrogen? Tht time of the month ehh

 

[MyMeloMyMan]

Brad Wannamaker and Corey Fisher were not drafted...but you feel Scoop Jardine and Brandon Triche will?

 

[Su Grad Wannabe]

Yeah, Scoop is my favorite player on this team, and I'm one of the small handful of people on here who regularly defend him. But he's not going to average 7 assists per game this year, much less 8. Even if he does play at a career-best level, his minutes are certainly going to be significantly reduced for at least the first third of the year.

As an aside, how does a group of allegedly knowledgeable college basketball fans have such a diversity of opinions on who the quickest guard on the team is? Cooney? Carter-Williams? That's insane. This really isn't a subjective question, and we've all seen these guys play. Even optimistic fans might make outlandish predictions about how many players will be drafted, but no one should should keep a straight face and say either of those guys is the quickest guard on the team.

Scoop is like are 5th at best scoring option, I think he's smart enough to realize he has alot of talent around him and he.can Jus be the faciltator.

Whoever said Cooney( cough Ithaca) I think had 1 to many Ithaca pale ales.

 

[Su Grad Wannabe]

Brad Wannamaker and Corey Fisher were not drafted...but you feel Scoop Jardine and Brandon Triche will?

A Final Four run with Scoop the starting pg will imo deff help his case. But he wasn't one of my "gimmes" and two final 4 runs will do the same thing for Triche.

 

[Knicks411]

I'm a man of my word I'll bet 100 cash he averages around 7 and 6.5 rounds up to 7.

I'd do 100 on him averaging 7, not sure how I feel if you want to take it down to 6.5

 

[OttoMets]

Scoop is like are 5th at best scoring option, I think he's smart enough to realize he has alot of talent around him and he.can Jus be the faciltator.

Whoever said Cooney( cough Ithaca) I think had 1 to many Ithaca pale ales.

I'd rather he be a distributor, too, but 7 is a reach. Unless something bad happens, Scoop's probably going to average 20 minutes a game until mid-January. Five assists per game with that playing time will be a lot to ask.

There are four Scoop numbers I care about this year: 45% (field goal shooting, hopefully on under 6 attempts per game), 80% (free throws, looks like a stretch), 3:1 (assist:turnover, surpassing that right now), and 35 (number of wins).