Really?

[OrangeXtreme]

So did Brian Kelly, Butch Jones, etc. Some of the best players and coaches out there came from the MAC,

So did that Schembechler guy.

 

[spo023]

Sure, but those were the kids, not the coaches. Big difference.

The coaches are responsible for not only bringing certain types of kids to Syracuse, but instilling discipline and responsibility in them as well. I'll take a coach who actually gets fired up on the sidelines and an OC who tries to motivate his players in different ways than stoic coaches who preach discipline, but have players run wild.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

This staff hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt from my perspective on this one.

I can appreciate that. I also figure the performance at WR has been so abysmal, if a guy slips a little bit and maybe isn't working as hard, that's probably enough to bump him.

In other words, not only do our WRs fail to get separation from defensive backs, they also fail to separate... from each other.

 

[Deano]

So did Brian Kelly, Butch Jones, etc. Some of the best players and coaches out there came from the MAC,

You forgot a pretty good name too, Nick Saban. Just helping your cause on your valid reply back

 

[OrangePA]

The article read fine to me. His initial comment I thought big deal when followed up by the other comments. What I took from the article, Kobena works hard but so are the other kids. If things are even you need to elevate your game further - there's no seniority or past PT being given preference.

Frankly if Kobena dropped one pass in practice and Cornelius dropped zero well then Cornelius gets the nod. I have no issues with that.

Kobena has had his share of stone hands drops before and has chickened out over the middle (USC).

JK drops too many passes.

 

[dollarbill44]

I couldn't agree more with the original post. McDonald is a buffoon and a caricature of a real leader. We've gone from a disciplined, well-prepared program to one that reacts on emotion with no core, systemic or otherwise. Is it a wonder other coaches are now calling us "dirty" (I heard this on Saturday)?

You hire MAC buddies, this is what you should expect.

Ridiculous! Who is calling us dirty? (OT, why the parentheses?) We may be silly with celebrating plays while down 4 TDs, but we don't play dirty by any stretch.

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[Scooch]

Sure, but those were the kids, not the coaches. Big difference.

You're right, St. Marrone would never employ a coach who wasn't a paragon of restraint.

 

[upperdeck]

there is working hard in practice.. and working hard outside of practice.. its a mental game as much as physical..

 

[HeaterCuse22]

I thought Doug did an amazing job here given where he inherited the program and is an excellent football coach; but you're right in that his myth has grown by leaps and bounds over the past 10 months. A year ago at this time we were 4-5 and our offense had that awesome stretch where it put up 10 against Minnesota, 14 against Pitt and 15 against Rutgers. And that was with Pugh, Nassib and Lemon!

There is no place for facts, data and or supporting information on this board. Save that for the OT board.

 

[N.Y. Orangeman]

Give us a break, dirty? really? How about backing up your claim.

As far as hiring MAC buddies, you do realize McDonald was at Miami and then on the Arkansas staff before coming to Syracuse right?

Yes they worked together once before in the MAC but it's not like he hired him away from the MAC.

But even if he did, nothing exactly wrong with that. Lots of talented coaches come from the MAC.

Check your box.

 

[N.Y. Orangeman]

You're right, St. Marrone would never employ a coach who wasn't a paragon of restraint.

And what happened to him...?

 

[Orangello]

GRob however, did not come from the MAC.

He was in a league of his own that's for sure.

 

[cuseincincy]

So did Brian Kelly, Butch Jones, etc. Some of the best players and coaches out there came from the MAC,

Nick Saban, Randy Walker, Bo Schembechler, Woody Hayes, Gary Pinkel, Jim Grobe, Don James, Ara Parseghian were some pretty good MAC coaches too.

 

[orangenirvana]

 

[FAL]

Check your box.

Really? You wrote "Is it a wonder other coaches are now calling us "dirty" (I heard this on Saturday)? " on a public forum, and when somebody calls you out on it, you tell him to check his inbox? What is this, 6th grade gossip girls? C'mon, man, share with everybody or else it didn't happen! Your curious brethren deserve better...

 

[FAL]

Nice job--beat me to it!

 

[RMH44]

McDonald came from Miami of the ACC and Arkansas of the SEC.

He also worked at Minnesota of the Big Ten.

Say what you will, but the guy has credentials.

Also, recall that Urban Meyer coached in the MAC.

As did Brian Kelley, Mark Dantonio, Butch Davis, Jim Grobe and Gary Pinkel...to name a few.

 

[RMH44]

Really? You wrote "Is it a wonder other coaches are now calling us "dirty" (I heard this on Saturday)? " on a public forum, and when somebody calls you out on it, you tell him to check his inbox? What is this, 6th grade gossip girls? C'mon, man, share with everybody or else it didn't happen! Your curious brethren deserve better...

Don't bother...clowns like him and his ilk have been extraordinarily quiet this week because we won our last game. It takes something negative, usually a loss, to get them to pay attention and spew.

Exhibit "A"...has anyone seen a post from the Bean Town naysayer, aka OrangeinBoston, this week?

 

[kirbivore]

Really? You wrote "Is it a wonder other coaches are now calling us "dirty" (I heard this on Saturday)? " on a public forum, and when somebody calls you out on it, you tell him to check his inbox? What is this, 6th grade gossip girls? C'mon, man, share with everybody or else it didn't happen! Your curious brethren deserve better...

sounds like pay side material

 

[bnoro]

I couldn't agree more with the original post. McDonald is a buffoon and a caricature of a real leader. We've gone from a disciplined, well-prepared program to one that reacts on emotion with no core, systemic or otherwise. Is it a wonder other coaches are now calling us "dirty" (I heard this on Saturday)?

You hire MAC buddies, this is what you should expect.

Would love to hear which coaches called us "dirty"... Just make up whatever you want to fit an agenda, right?

 

[AccuRater]

MAC Coaches:

Aaron Kromer
Terry Hoeppner
Jim Tressel
Randy Walker
Sean Payton

All coached at Miami (Ohio).

Before them:

Bo Schembechler
Woody Hayes
Ara Parseghian

 

[GoSU96]

http://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/index.ssf/2013/11/george_mcdonald_on_syracuse_wi.html

This article makes me nuts. I have been involved in sports all my life, and IMO, the hallmark of any good coach is praise in public, criticize in private. McDonald calling Kobena out in public to a reporter, and then half-way trying to backpedal, troubles me. These things seem to keep happening, and this latest one reveals an inherent lack of judgment and reliability with this guy. Is McDonald "coming to work" every day. Some would argue not, especially when we are more than half-way through our schedule and our kids still are still frequently confused about where to line up pre-snap, the kids cannot consistently execute in his system, and we have virtually no apparent offensive identity. I knew members of the old staff who consistently praised Kobena as an exceptionally hard worker, and one of their favorite kids. I 'm at a complete loss as to how McDonald calling the kid out to a reporter helps the kid or the program. Can you imagine Kobena having to read this article today? Many things--from Shafer (apparently losing his mind) and screaming profanity across the field on national TV at an opposing coach, to the penalties, to the kids dancing around during an official's review when down 30 to Clemson, etc.--leave me feeling afraid of where this whole thing is heading. I hope my gut is wrong on this, because I think we have really good hard working kids in this program.

That reaction is over the top.

 

[orangedave]

And what happened to him...?

Eventually, he did get fired but before that had a long and successful career in the NFL and college football including time under coach Mac and coach P.

 

[MadNY3]

Nick Saban, Randy Walker, Bo Schembechler, Woody Hayes, Gary Pinkel, Jim Grobe, Don James, Ara Parseghian were some pretty good MAC coaches too.

To help overemphasize this, Doug Marrone once coached at Cortland, Jim Boeheim, was a College head coach in golf before basketball and Jesus, The Lord and Savior to many on the planet, was born in a stable.

We all start somewhere, people.

 

[Jake]

Opposing coaches are calling us dirty?!?!? Greatest compliment we've received in years!!!!!

Are the rest of you not paying attention to the college football landscape?

4 years of bowls followed by an NCAA slap on the wrist.

I mean, you can have a staff member RAPE little boys and then have the NCAA infractions committee take pity on your program a year later.

Hookers, strippers and weed are fine as long as you self impose a bowl ban for a year.

They should be printing $100.00 bills in the bowels of the dome and sending the Dome Ranger to deliver them to Florida.

Now that's the Orange Express!




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