Recruiting: So far ranked last in ACC

[IthacaMatt]

Same meat. Just cut and prepared different. ;-)

That's a crazy thing about food - the same thing, like say pasta, can taste different based on the shape, thickness, cooking time, etc. The same ingredient can be used so many different ways, and highlight different aspects of its flavor by serving it a different way.

 

[TheCusian]

I agree with your points, but with some limits.
We have had one exceptional season under Dino. That moved the needle and gets our fan base excited. So far, though, it is one season and reason to be optimistic.
Our staff can identify talent, but it has typically made 400 offers to prospects in a cycle. The list gets winnowed down and the preponderance of that identified talent does not have SU at the top of their wish list. The talent we get is determined to a large degree by who the staff can persuade to visit. Lots of programs and coaches can identify talent; the trick is selling the program & school & location & opportunity.
We can overstate the importance of “fit the system”. For the most part we want the same prospects (size, quickness, potential) that other programs want. That is why our best recruits tend to have other P5 offers. There are a few positions or examples to the contrary (Riley or other undersized slot receivers; maybe a smallish fast LB) but not many. We want the OL recruits that BC recruits; we would take the DTs, big DEs and LBs that our ACC rivals have landed.
Eventually, we need to match and exceed Pitt and BC in recruiting. Those programs have a recent history of bowl appearances. We need to do that back to back and keep building.

Good post. I agree on most of it.

1 exciting season of 10 wins - plus beating a ranked VaTech and a #2 ranked Clemson the previous two. If the line is “system works” I think we’ve def crossed it.

There are a lot of 3* recruits. Of course a lot of them have other P5 offers. That’s good. They still have to fit and we still have to land them. Which we have. Not elite talent at every position - but good talent that we develop. (If we offer 400 kids, we’re not going to be at the top of every kids list. We cast a wide net of talent that fits and hope we land some - again - so far it’s worked enough to have the best talent in the program over the last 20 years)

The fact that we’re competing vs BC, Pitt, NC State etc and losing to them in the recruiting rankings is proof of much of what I wrote. I’d love to beat them on the field and in the rankings. We keep winning and we will.

 

[OrangeDW]

I'm telling you -- and my memory has failed me before -- but I followed this stuff like crazy back in the mid-90s and 2000s and it always shocked me but I swear we wound up in the high 20s, 30s and 40s, mostly high 20s/30s. But we only hit top 25 with that 98 class, which wound up being a massive dud ultimately, at least relative to the great classes before that. We clearly had top 25 talent, but we were not recognized that way.

Could be wrong, but wasn’t our 93(?) class really highly regarded? Which would make sense, because we were loaded in ‘97.

 

[OrangeDW]

I’ve seen what Dino can do with 3 star talent at WR and in the Secondary. I’m sure that we will start attracting more 4 star talent after sustained winning. Not worried about this, yet.

What does have me worried is the QB position and how that has unfolded this cycle. Not in panic mode, but I don’t get the warm fuzzies with losing out on TVD, along with what’s transpired with Villeux.

Yeah, QB is weird. But after Dungey goes nuts this year, you have to think they’ll start lining up the next 2 years as he becomes an upperclassman and is closer to leaving.

 

[nzm136]

I think this is a very rationale and well-articulated view. I don't entirely agree with it for reasons I'll state below but this seems far more logical to me than looking at composite star rankings and wringing our hands. We will very rarely do well there.

Anyway, I don't claim to know how recruiting is going per se. I have no inside info and I'm not a football coach so my views of the film are that of a fan who doesn't have much better to do. But, having said that, there are a couple things I disagree with.

1. We never have kept big name kids in state. Maybe Mac back in the day but this has been a consistent gripe (one I've often echoed) for at least 25 years, probably closer to 30. It sucks but SU to NY is not Penn State to PA. At least not now or for the past 25ish years.

2. We've had one good season and two solid seasons in the past 18 years. We also have spent several of those years as the laughing stock of P5 programs (or pretty close to it). The Dome blows (I know people hate to hear that but I think that's a prevailing opinion among non-cuse fans) and the game day atmosphere isn't much better. Facilities are OK I guess, but I find it hard to believe they are a selling point over many of our contemporaries. Bottom line is it's going to be hard to recruit at least until we can sustain some winning.

3. More misses could very well be a function of recruiting better kids. I don't feel like we've lost key targets to Tulsa and UConn and Houston so much as we've lost to other really solid programs. That's going to happen at times -- obviously hopefully less as we move forward but it's part of signing higher profile kids. There's more competition.

I don't know. I can understand why people are hoping we start crushing it but I think we face an uphill battle at the very least until we can string together some solid success.

I’ve yet to hear a coherent argument as to why the Dome blows. The site lines are unreal. The atmosphere is close to ideal. The building is unique.

The complaints typically revolve around it occasionally being hot (try sitting through a game @A&M, LSU, etc.), bench seats (most big stadiums have at least some bench seats, and you can buy seat backs if you really care), narrow concourses (stupid reason), concessions (stupid reason & they aren’t worse than anywhere else), and pee troughs (look straight ahead, and you’ll be fine lol).

I also occasionally hear the the outside looks 80’s, which is honestly a couple of years away from being genuinely cool. But if that’s not you’re cup of tea, it’s yet another reason to be *in* the Dome.

 

[nzm136]

No doubt! There's a reason why 'blue chip' stocks generally pay such good dividends...same deal here.

They have low growth opportunities, so they send capital back to the shareholders to deploy in other more productive assets?

 

[skurey]

I’ve yet to hear a coherent argument as to why the Dome blows. The site lines are unreal. The atmosphere is close to ideal. The building is unique.

The complaints typically revolve around it occasionally being hot (try sitting through a game @A&M, LSU, etc.), bench seats (most big stadiums have at least sum bench seats, and you can buy seat backs if you really care), narrow concourses (stupid reason), concessions (stupid reason & they aren’t worse than anywhere else), and pee troughs (look straight ahead, and you’ll be fine lol).

I also occasionally hear the the outside looks 80’s, which is honestly a couple of years away from being genuinely cool. But if that’s not you’re cup of tea, it’s yet another reason to be *in* the Dome.

Well yeah when you blow off all the legit complaints it's hard to find a good argument.

 

[OrangeinBoston]

Well yeah when you blow off all the legit complaints it's hard to find a good argument.

I don't go to the Dome to have a great meal. And, I can maneuver my way through the concourses. What legit complaints? Stupid!

 

[nzm136]

Well yeah when you blow off all the legit complaints it's hard to find a good argument.

Those are your definition of legit complaints? If so, the problem is a people problem, not a facilities problem.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

That's a crazy thing about food - the same thing, like say pasta, can taste different based on the shape, thickness, cooking time, etc. The same ingredient can be used so many different ways, and highlight different aspects of its flavor by serving it a different way.

This thread took a really unexpected turn.

 

[qdawgg]

The dome is a great place to watch football, the cheap seats have awesome views and I kind of prefer the middle of the upper deck to the lower level. My only complaint is I can't pull right up to the dome, park, and walk right in but I can't do that at walmart either.

What's this thread about again?

 

[Doc5120]

Yeah, QB is weird. But after Dungey goes nuts this year, you have to think they’ll start lining up the next 2 years as he becomes an upperclassman and is closer to leaving.

Whoa, whoa, whoa - we have Dungey for another year?!? 2019 is going to be even better than I thought!

 

[OrangeDW]

Whoa, whoa, whoa - we have Dungey for another year?!? 2019 is going to be even better than I thought!

Lol, damn. Way too late to edit now!

 

[OrangeDW]

The dome is a great place to watch football, the cheap seats have awesome views and I kind of prefer the middle of the upper deck to the lower level. My only complaint is I can't pull right up to the dome, park, and walk right in but I can't do that at walmart either.

What's this thread about again?

I mainly go to games in Oct/Nov so I agree - it’s a great place to watch a game.

I avoid those early season sauna games though. Those absolutely suck. I can’t deal with that stuffiness. Still on the fence for the Clemson game this year. Should be ok if it’s at night, I think?

 

[billsin01]

Could be wrong, but wasn’t our 93(?) class really highly regarded? Which would make sense, because we were loaded in ‘97.

You may be right -- i always felt we belonged there but I don't recall it. (Of course I only remember about 3 out of every 5 grocery list items at the store, so take that for what it's worth.)

I think, for those of us like you and me who were following this stuff closely in the 90s what makes it tough is that we got information so differently. I remember the PS not only being all over recruiting but I'm pretty sure Webb and Rahme had really good relationships with the staff and were able to relay what seemed like relevant and reliable information on recruits. We just don't really get that today even though we have a lot more sources and outlets for the info.

So we got a ton of recruits with pretty impressive credentials nationally (not that they were all 4 stars per se) that I remember. Haven't really gone through rosters but off the top of my head (early 90s through late 90s-ish era):

QB: McNabb, Kevin Johnson
RB: Konrad, Tebucky, Ali Culpepper, Mungro, Kyle McIntosh, Malcolm Thomas
FB: Konrad, Nick Sudano (I think he had some decent pub)
TE: Kaseem Sinceno, Roland Williams, Gedney (might have been late 80s)
WR: Harrison, Ian McIntosh, Quinton Spotwood, Jim Turner, Jeremy Cooper, Mo Jackson, Maurice Minter, Shelby Hill
OL: Don't really remember us getting national guys here
DL: Antonio Anderson, Dulayne Morgan, Scott Freeney
LB: Maybe Antwan Ponds ... don't remember a lot of big names here though I could be wrong
DB: Abrams, Phil Nash (I think), Darius

I'm sure there may be more but I think those were the big-time guys. But I think what was different was that we knew more about who the staff really liked among those who may have been under the radar.

So, again off the top of my head:

QB: Chad Elliott was a guy we were really excited about, Malik Campbell
RB: Kyle Johnson (Eddie George lite), Kirby Dar Dar, Dee Brown (came in as a qb but I don't think he was ever really expected to stick there), Keion Walker, Chris Davis
TE/OL: Baniewicz was one I remember, Corey Bowen the C from FL, Joe Burton,
DL: Brian Coleman, Duke Pettijohn, Rickie Simpkins, Jason Walters
LB: Nate Hemsley (came in as a safety), Bullock (came in as a safety), Morlon Greenwood, JR Johnson
DB: Will Allen, Rod Gadson, Quentin Harris

Anyway, point is, we got our fair share of good players but I feel like we were pretty excited about guys like Kyle Johnson and Baniewicz and Hemsley, JR Johnson, Will allen, etc. even though they weren't nationally ranked recruits. And, in many cases, those guys were pretty nasty. Think it generally feels like we were rated higher and should have been rated higher. But I don't think we actually were.

 

[OrangeDW]

You may be right -- i always felt we belonged there but I don't recall it. (Of course I only remember about 3 out of every 5 grocery list items at the store, so take that for what it's worth.)

I think, for those of us like you and me who were following this stuff closely in the 90s what makes it tough is that we got information so differently. I remember the PS not only being all over recruiting but I'm pretty sure Webb and Rahme had really good relationships with the staff and were able to relay what seemed like relevant and reliable information on recruits. We just don't really get that today even though we have a lot more sources and outlets for the info.

So we got a ton of recruits with pretty impressive credentials nationally (not that they were all 4 stars per se) that I remember. Haven't really gone through rosters but off the top of my head (early 90s through late 90s-ish era):

QB: McNabb, Kevin Johnson
RB: Konrad, Tebucky, Ali Culpepper, Mungro, Kyle McIntosh, Malcolm Thomas
FB: Konrad, Nick Sudano (I think he had some decent pub)
TE: Kaseem Sinceno, Roland Williams, Gedney (might have been late 80s)
WR: Harrison, Ian McIntosh, Quinton Spotwood, Jim Turner, Jeremy Cooper, Mo Jackson, Maurice Minter, Shelby Hill
OL: Don't really remember us getting national guys here
DL: Antonio Anderson, Dulayne Morgan, Scott Freeney
LB: Maybe Antwan Ponds ... don't remember a lot of big names here though I could be wrong
DB: Abrams, Phil Nash (I think), Darius

I'm sure there may be more but I think those were the big-time guys. But I think what was different was that we knew more about who the staff really liked among those who may have been under the radar.

So, again off the top of my head:

QB: Chad Elliott was a guy we were really excited about, Malik Campbell
RB: Kyle Johnson (Eddie George lite), Kirby Dar Dar, Dee Brown (came in as a qb but I don't think he was ever really expected to stick there), Keion Walker, Chris Davis
TE/OL: Baniewicz was one I remember, Corey Bowen the C from FL, Joe Burton,
DL: Brian Coleman, Duke Pettijohn, Rickie Simpkins, Jason Walters
LB: Nate Hemsley (came in as a safety), Bullock (came in as a safety), Morlon Greenwood, JR Johnson
DB: Will Allen, Rod Gadson, Quentin Harris

Anyway, point is, we got our fair share of good players but I feel like we were pretty excited about guys like Kyle Johnson and Baniewicz and Hemsley, JR Johnson, Will allen, etc. even though they weren't nationally ranked recruits. And, in many cases, those guys were pretty nasty. Think it generally feels like we were rated higher and should have been rated higher. But I don't think we actually were.

Dulayne Morgan(as you noted)...that’s the class I was thinking of. Scott Freeney too. Found this...Syracuse Lands a Linebacker

 

[billsin01]

I’ve yet to hear a coherent argument as to why the Dome blows. The site lines are unreal. The atmosphere is close to ideal. The building is unique.

The complaints typically revolve around it occasionally being hot (try sitting through a game @A&M, LSU, etc.), bench seats (most big stadiums have at least some bench seats, and you can buy seat backs if you really care), narrow concourses (stupid reason), concessions (stupid reason & they aren’t worse than anywhere else), and pee troughs (look straight ahead, and you’ll be fine lol).

I also occasionally hear the the outside looks 80’s, which is honestly a couple of years away from being genuinely cool. But if that’s not you’re cup of tea, it’s yet another reason to be *in* the Dome.

I'm not saying I don't enjoy going to games when I can but you literally listed a bunch of major problems with a modern stadium -- hot and stuffy (you're in upstate ny, how is it hot at a football game on a 55-degree day?), crappy seats, narrow concourses (have you ever been there with kids that need to use the bathroom at halftime?), bad concessions (I don't need high-end sushi at a football game but I got nachos for my kids who eat basically any carbs with cheese and they ate about two bites b/c they were so stale and nasty), pee troughs (I agree, who cares) and a drab, concrete 80s appearance not only outside but inside as well.

Add to that crappy tailgating that often includes a bus ride to ghe actual game and the fact that much of the game is quiet and lacks any atmosphere and you have your answer.

I've been to LSU -- it's hot but it's a massive 4-day party. Notre Dame, Ped St, both awesome. I go to Maryland from time to time and the weather is usually awesome, tailgating is a blast, concessions are good and you don't have to wait in a 10-minute line to get into the concourse to then wait in line to get to the bathroom.

I don't know. Everyone has their own criteria I guess, but I would say objectively most people would agree the dome is not the most exciting place to be.

 

[TheKid]

I'm not saying I don't enjoy going to games when I can but you literally listed a bunch of major problems with a modern stadium -- hot and stuffy (you're in upstate ny, how is it hot at a football game on a 55-degree day?), crappy seats, narrow concourses (have you ever been there with kids that need to use the bathroom at halftime?), bad concessions (I don't need high-end sushi at a football game but I got nachos for my kids who eat basically any carbs with cheese and they ate about two bites b/c they were so stale and nasty), pee troughs (I agree, who cares) and a drab, concrete 80s appearance not only outside but inside as well.

Add to that crappy tailgating that often includes a bus ride to ghe actual game and the fact that much of the game is quiet and lacks any atmosphere and you have your answer.

I've been to LSU -- it's hot but it's a massive 4-day party. Notre Dame, Ped St, both awesome. I go to Maryland from time to time and the weather is usually awesome, tailgating is a blast, concessions are good and you don't have to wait in a 10-minute line to get into the concourse to then wait in line to get to the bathroom.

I don't know. Everyone has their own criteria I guess, but I would say objectively most people would agree the dome is not the most exciting place to be.

Please don't go to the Clemson game. The dome will be way too stuffy and the sightlines will suck. Good luck trying to find a tailgate party too, not going to happen. Not here. Not at Syracuse. Can't believe the newspaper isn't here yet...

 

[IthacaMatt]

Yeah, QB is weird. But after Dungey goes nuts this year, you have to think they’ll start lining up the next 2 years as he becomes an upperclassman and is closer to leaving.

You mean "Tommy".

 

[billorange44]

I'm not saying I don't enjoy going to games when I can but you literally listed a bunch of major problems with a modern stadium -- hot and stuffy (you're in upstate ny, how is it hot at a football game on a 55-degree day?), crappy seats, narrow concourses (have you ever been there with kids that need to use the bathroom at halftime?), bad concessions (I don't need high-end sushi at a football game but I got nachos for my kids who eat basically any carbs with cheese and they ate about two bites b/c they were so stale and nasty), pee troughs (I agree, who cares) and a drab, concrete 80s appearance not only outside but inside as well.

Add to that crappy tailgating that often includes a bus ride to ghe actual game and the fact that much of the game is quiet and lacks any atmosphere and you have your answer.

I've been to LSU -- it's hot but it's a massive 4-day party. Notre Dame, Ped St, both awesome. I go to Maryland from time to time and the weather is usually awesome, tailgating is a blast, concessions are good and you don't have to wait in a 10-minute line to get into the concourse to then wait in line to get to the bathroom.

I don't know. Everyone has their own criteria I guess, but I would say objectively most people would agree the dome is not the most exciting place to be.

The Dome is usually hot and stuffy in September. So sometimes we suffer through two games. I'll take that compared to a September rain storm with no roof overhead.

Taking kids to the Dome is OK if that's what you want to do, but remember, they are kids and they do what kids do at games. They need to pee and they want food. That's a given.

The food at the Dome is what it is. I would never buy the nachos. The cheese on them looks like what they paint a school bus with. The hot dogs are at least Hoffmans. Still, I don't often buy them. I will tell you this though, on a hot humid day in the Dome, there is nothing better than a cookiewich. Also, beer is available!!!

If you ask me, the pee troughs are a work of art in urination. I have never had to wait very long, even at half time.

Tailgating is tailgating. Food, booze, and friends at the back of a car. It is no different no matter where you go. I see no need to pull up with a restaurant size smoker like they do down south. Besides, you have to put all that stuff away and go home. I tailgate at Manley. After a game, usually from the time I leave the Dome to the time I am on 81 north heading home is 30 minutes, give or take a minute or two.

As far as the stadiums are concerned, Notre Dame Stadium looks like the outside of a factory that was built in the 1890's. Penn State's looks like an unfinished construction site. I have to admit, the outside of the Dome is what it is and it reminds me of concrete buildings in Warsaw, Poland that were built by the communists and I have seen many of those.

All in all, I think the Dome is a pretty unique venue. It has no bad seats. Sure, it would be nice to have the roof open in September, but that comes with a price that I will mention now. Every open air stadium and I mean all of them have problems with bees drawn by spilled soda, beer or whatever. I have never ever seen a bee inside the Carrier Dome.

 

[FloridaFan]

If a hot stadium is a bad viewing expeirence do not go to any stadium in the south. I fail to see how that is a reason why the dome isn’t that good

 

[upperdeck]

LSU was great walking thru the party scene..

This after walking 2+ miles from the parking lot we found. The Stadium is dumpy in the concourse area but it was a huge dump. They ran out of water cause it was hot. the seats were bench seating and the view was poor. the kids didnt come back after half time and they had a huge replay board way way across the field.

Once you get past the party life everything else was no better and somewhat worse than the Dome. people comlain about the Dome and how it looks but its actually in pretty nice shape compared to most stadiums. if it had a little more color in the concrete many if the appearance issues would go away.

 

[nzm136]

I'm not saying I don't enjoy going to games when I can but you literally listed a bunch of major problems with a modern stadium -- hot and stuffy (you're in upstate ny, how is it hot at a football game on a 55-degree day?), crappy seats, narrow concourses (have you ever been there with kids that need to use the bathroom at halftime?), bad concessions (I don't need high-end sushi at a football game but I got nachos for my kids who eat basically any carbs with cheese and they ate about two bites b/c they were so stale and nasty), pee troughs (I agree, who cares) and a drab, concrete 80s appearance not only outside but inside as well.

Add to that crappy tailgating that often includes a bus ride to ghe actual game and the fact that much of the game is quiet and lacks any atmosphere and you have your answer.

I've been to LSU -- it's hot but it's a massive 4-day party. Notre Dame, Ped St, both awesome. I go to Maryland from time to time and the weather is usually awesome, tailgating is a blast, concessions are good and you don't have to wait in a 10-minute line to get into the concourse to then wait in line to get to the bathroom.

I don't know. Everyone has their own criteria I guess, but I would say objectively most people would agree the dome is not the most exciting place to be.

If your problem is Syracuse is the #39th hottest stadium for 2 games a year, then that’s on you. Yes, #39 is an arbitrary number, but it’s been my experience that it’s not hotter than any of the SEC venues (except possibly UK and MIZZOU - I wouldn’t know), many of them CUSA venues, many of the southern ACC venues, many of the AAC venues, virtually all of the Sun Belt venues, and many of the Big XII venues. Try sitting through a game at Kyle Field when it’s between 115-120 out, with 80% humidity, and you’re in the sun (there is virtually no shade if you’re on the wrong side of the stadium), and then tell me that the Dome is “hot.” TAMU is an extreme, but it’s not like our friends in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc. enjoy cool and refreshing early season weather. The fact that it’s 55 outside the Dome is irrelevant to how the Dome compares to other stadiums.

I also don’t get your comment about the Dome having an 80’s appearance inside. The last PSU game I went to was in October of 2011, so times may have changed, but Beaver Stadium didn’t have credit card machines in their concession stands - at least not in the upper level of the stadium. That’s 80’s. Lacking a bigger TV screen (which is what I assume you mean by 80’s appearance inside) is at best champaign problem, especially given how great the site lines are. And in what way is it ‘drab?’ Yes, there is concrete (it’s a concrete building, so it’s hard to not have concrete), but it’s not like the school doesn’t cover it up with a ribbon screen, and orange coverings (unless you mean the ground itself - then the same could be said for every stadium that I’ve ever been in at any level).

Next, most concessions come from centralized vendors. Syracuse doesn’t make the chips and “cheese.” It’s the same junk that every other stadium gets. In fact ~90% of the menus at ~90% of the stadiums are the same. It’s usually sourced from Sysco. The difference is that most stadiums also add a touch of local flare. That’s really what you’re comparing when you evaluate stadium food, and that difference is trivial at best.

The same is true for the seats. Granted, we don’t have any bucket sears, sure. But that problem is mitigated by the fact that you can purchase seats with backs and cushioned bottoms if you really care, and it’s not like bench seating is rare in college stadiums, even amongst the big guys. We’re at an extene for how much of it we have, but we’re not outside the norm for having it.

Lastly, as for the hallways, I have no idea what your problem is. Yeah, it’s crowded. Hold hands and walk. I don’t know what to tell you other than that system has worked at Syracuse for 40 years.

The things that are different at the Dome vs other stadiums are:
A) there are no bad seats in the house. Sit in cheap seats at Beaver Stadium, and tell me how much of the game you can see. And it’s not like at Wriggly or Fenway, where you can buy a ticket, only to discover that you literally can’t see 40% of the field because of a beam that’s 1-2 feet in front of you.
B) it never rains. Sit through the misery of being poured on for 3 hours if you don’t appreciate being dry.
C) contrary to some people’s belief on this site, the weather is extremely mild. Try sitting through a November game at Michigan, Michigan State, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Penn State, BC, etc. or an early season game at noon in the south on a sunny, humid day, and then let me know what you think of the Dome if you don’t believe me.
D) the cover holds in noise, which makes it MUCH louder/more exciting than it should be.

I’d absolutely disagree about your assessment of the excitement level of the Dome. It can be magical when it’s packed and the crowd is into the game. Florida almost went an entire generation without leaving their home state for an OOC game after what we did to them in ‘92. The excitement level is elite, and we punch far above our weight. Our issue is that our fans are spoiled, not that the Dome is worse than other venues. It’s not.

***I’d agree about the tailgating scene, but that isn’t really a Dome issue. It doesn’t affect the Dome itself, and no amount of rebuilding/remodeling the Dome will help it.***

 

[billsin01]

Please don't go to the Clemson game. The dome will be way too stuffy and the sightlines will suck. Good luck trying to find a tailgate party too, not going to happen. Not here. Not at Syracuse. Can't believe the newspaper isn't here yet...

Lol -- I do actually miss getting a local newspaper. I'm glad you like it.

 

[DomeStranger]

One thing that I'm really liking with this class, is that we have been winning in our radius. 7-10 commits are all within a 6 hour driving distance. This is our territory, we are building a pipeline for present and future. In the past we had no choice but to mine places far away because we didn't have any respect in our radius, now we do, and I'm glad to see Dino and his team taking advantage of it.