Refs

[samspann1]

Twitter which has fans of all teams disagrees with you. They were thousands and thousands of posts from non-Syracuse fans saying it was one-sided in Clemson's favor. There were way more bad calls / non-calls than just that one all in Clemson's favor. Look at my past posts for a breakdown.

Thousands are wrong. The 4-5 here are right, obviously

 

[blizz]

This is America. The refs are supposed to help the team with all the advantages win by making biased calls in their favor. That's how this whole thing works. Anyone saying they want the refs to be fair and call it both ways is a woke communist socialist bent on destroying this great country.

 

[samspann1]

They’d likely say it was pretty even, save for a bad non-call on the Shrader hit out of bounds. And they’d likely say we committed several dumb penalties that may have cost us the game.

You think that most people thought that the DPI in the end zone was a good call?

 

[Scooch]

You think that most people thought that the DPI in the end zone was a good call?

I wouldn’t have thrown that flag, but our guy did climb his back. It wasn’t an egregiously awful call. If that happened to one of our WRs and no flag came out people here would lose their minds.

 

[RF2044]

It was totally the refs fault that GS threw to a TRIPLE-TEAMED Gadsden, rather than the WIDE OPEN Courtney Jackson behind him IN THE END ZONE.

And the refs also made GS not look to his left on that same play, and see his other WR OPEN inside the 15 yard line, with the DB trailing him by 5 yards.

The only truly atrocious (non-) call was the egregious late hit on GS well out of bounds.

There were also at least 1-2 spots that seemed more than a little generous towards the home team.

IF there was a “fix”, then the refs don’t correctly overrule the incomplete pass that was a sick catch by Alford.
But they did, and the drive remainded alive.

All that said - we had the ball with a chance to take the lead.
And failed to do so. Even tho it was very much there for the taking.

And that had nothing to do with the refs.

Minor point of contention, that's not true. The pass interference the gifted them their second touchdown in the fourth quarter was a blatantly piss poor call.

 

[CuseGrad94]

That’s going to be very difficult

If it’s to a head coaching job so be it, but not to another school for DC. Make sure they pay him what he wants to keep him from a lateral move.

 

[samspann1]

Minor point of contention, that's not true. The pass interference the gifted them their second touchdown in the fourth quarter was a blatantly piss poor call.

that was only 3 gifted points, I believe.

 

[Orangello]

College football fans, media blast ACC officials for bias in Clemson-Syracuse game

College football fans, media smell something fishy at Clemson.

www.saturdaydownsouth.com

 

[RF2044]

Say what you will, I agree that the calls flipped the game.

 

[OrangeDW]

Sorry if already posted:

You know what…..,put that on the Greensboro billboard, and I’m chipping in.

 

[OrangeDW]

Say what you will, I agree that the calls flipped the game.

Of course they did. They extended their drive on 3rd and friggin 25, and they scored the TD that got them back in the game.

If they punt there and we even just have the ball for a few minutes, and punt, and Clemson has the ball down 11 with, say, 10 minutes to go on their 25? I’m feeling good still.

 

[Scooch]

Of course they did. They extended their drive on 3rd and friggin 25, and they scored the TD that got them back in the game.

If they punt there and we even just have the ball for a few minutes, and punt, and Clemson has the ball down 11 with, say, 10 minutes to go on their 25? I’m feeling good still.

You really think they shouldn’t have flagged Fuentes? Sincerely asking.

 

[OrangeDW]

You really think they shouldn’t have flagged Fuentes? Sincerely asking.

Yes.

1) QB was still in bounds when he touched him.

2) QB was trying to stay in bounds and cut it up field.

3) Their guy pushed our guy in the back on the play.

Complete garbage.

 

[Scooch]

Yes.

1) QB was still in bounds when he touched him.

2) QB was trying to stay in bounds and cut it up field.

3) Their guy pushed our guy in the back on the play.

Complete garbage.

Ok, got it. We disagree on it. I thought it was a bad play by our very inexperienced player. He had 10+ yards to shadow him and shove him out if he turned upfield (and I don’t think he was doing that). I also don’t think the push had anything to do with Fuentes hitting the QB.

All good though. There’s room for disagreement.

 

[pokercuse08]

This is America. The refs are supposed to help the team with all the advantages win by making biased calls in their favor. That's how this whole thing works. Anyone saying they want the refs to be fair and call it both ways is a woke communist socialist bent on destroying this great country.

I mean yeah that about sums it up, college football is a lot like late stage capitalism.

 

[djcon57]

Ok, got it. We disagree on it. I thought it was a bad play by our very inexperienced player. He had 10+ yards to shadow him and shove him out if he turned upfield (and I don’t think he was doing that). I also don’t think the push had anything to do with Fuentes hitting the QB.

All good though. There’s room for disagreement.

that’s where I’m at on the thread. I’ll agree to disagree. Refs stunk and it wasn’t why we lost.

As far as that roughing call, I’ll be watching like a hawk when we get that exact call in our favor.

 

[Ringostar57]

Late stage capitalism.....more like government of the rich by the rich and for the rich. Substite refs for government. ACC cronyism.

 

[CuseGrad94]

Ok, got it. We disagree on it. I thought it was a bad play by our very inexperienced player. He had 10+ yards to shadow him and shove him out if he turned upfield (and I don’t think he was doing that). I also don’t think the push had anything to do with Fuentes hitting the QB.

All good though. There’s room for disagreement.

Would have been good for some game awareness there by the big fella, momentum shifted there big time, they were lifeless and that gave them life. Can’t call that one and not call the one on Shrader. I did hate the PI too. He didn’t tug at the receiver’s jersey at all. Definitely didn’t cost them the game though was too many chances for that.

 

[RF2044]

Yes.

1) QB was still in bounds when he touched him.

2) QB was trying to stay in bounds and cut it up field.

3) Their guy pushed our guy in the back on the play.

Complete garbage.

It's hilarious, at the halftime of the Penn State Minnesota game, they just showed the two plays, and commenting on the lack of call on our QB getting hit out of bounds.

It's a thing.

 

[OrangeDW]

Ok, got it. We disagree on it. I thought it was a bad play by our very inexperienced player. He had 10+ yards to shadow him and shove him out if he turned upfield (and I don’t think he was doing that). I also don’t think the push had anything to do with Fuentes hitting the QB.

All good though. There’s room for disagreement.

And that’s another thing….so what if our guy jumped the gun on harmlessly shoving him out of bounds instead of walking on eggshells and “shadowing him” and giving him 10 free yards?? It’s such a stupid way to run a game….all kinds of violence on every play, but gently shove a guy out of bounds to make sure he doesn’t sneak up the sideline for a big play, and it’s a game changer??! Huh? For what?

Thought the point of the rule was to prevent cheap shots? This was not a cheap shot. If the guy isn’t clearly out of bounds, then refs….don’t be stupid and let football be football.

 

[samspann1]

Ok, got it. We disagree on it. I thought it was a bad play by our very inexperienced player. He had 10+ yards to shadow him and shove him out if he turned upfield (and I don’t think he was doing that). I also don’t think the push had anything to do with Fuentes hitting the QB.

All good though. There’s room for disagreement.

Was the push in the back legal?

 

[pokercuse08]

Late stage capitalism...more like government of the rich by the rich and for the rich. Substite refs for government. ACC cronyism.

Yeah that's exactly what I mean. Late stage capitalism = the rich/corporations buy the government so it works to their advantage. College football = the powerhouses with all the money have the best facilities and the most to offer recruits so they get their pick of the talent, and the most money to offer coaches so they get their pick of coaches... and they get into the best conferences which means more of a money advantage.

Then the schools that make their conferences the most money get more power/sway in the conference, and the conference wants to keep the money flowing so they're incentivized to make sure officials know that it sure would be nice if they kept winning.

Getting over that hump from the position we're in is extremely difficult.

 

[OrangeDW]

Was the push in the back legal?

Im amazed how everyone wants to trash our guy for that. It was 3rd and 25! How about the refs have a little savvy? The hell did Clemson do to earn that first down? It wasn’t a dirty play or even a late hit. Absolutely absurd that the refs are allowed to swing games with calls on plays like that.

That call should be reviewable, and they should slow it down and if he’s not clearly out of bounds, it’s not a flag. It’s just such a stupid thing for that to be a 15 yard penalty and auto first down.

A full step out of bounds and you take him out…sure.

This was not that. Not a dirty play at all, and a stupid call. This sport is so stupid sometimes.

 

[OrangeDW]

Next time we play Clemson our ball carriers should take absurd Shawn Michaels against Hulk Hogan at Summerslam level dives any time they’re touched near the sideline. Flop around like a fish out of water. Take the fall, act hurt, get indignant.

 

[djcon57]

Im amazed how everyone wants to trash our guy for that. It was 3rd and 25! How about the refs have a little savvy? The hell did Clemson do to earn that first down? It wasn’t a dirty play or even a late hit. Absolutely absurd that the refs are allowed to swing games with calls on plays like that.

That call should be reviewable, and they should slow it down and if he’s not clearly out of bounds, it’s not a flag. It’s just such a stupid thing for that to be a 15 yard penalty and auto first down.

A full step out of bounds and you take him out…sure.

This was not that. Not a dirty play at all, and a stupid call. This sport is so stupid sometimes.

Wait wait…we won a game on TAUNTING CALLS and NOW the game is stupid? Of course it’s stupid. That’s built in