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This is why Red is doomed to fail. Look at the differences between his speech to the team and Pitino speech to his team


 
Its a mindset difference that stands out. Rick is a hard ass go getter and expects his kids to be same way and Red is a guy who tries not too lose. Doesnt have the vigor the old man does. Big difference.
 
This is why Red is doomed to fail. Look at the differences between his speech to the team and Pitino speech to his team


A lot of people around here probably think Pitino is too mean.
 
Having not watched a lot of CBB this year... because we suck. Had trouble determining if SJU is actually good or is getting a Pitino boost or if they are good because of the Pitino boost.
 
Yeah, but -

Syracuse has been playing with 2 strikes (or 4 fouls, if you prefer) due to our previous BS NCAA penalties.

And Pitino was a walking show-cause violation waiting to happen.

… in the pre-NIL world of a few years ago.

Yes - he is a great coach.
He ain’t in the HOF for nothing.

But - it would’ve been insane to fire a 70-something HOF coach who’d lost his fastball,
to then hire another 70-something HOF coach who may or may not still have had his fastball.

And, as has been said -
maybe Rick had zero interest in the job anyway, even if offered.

You never want to be the man, who comes after The Man.
Bringing back Autry next season is insane. Hiring him in the first place without a national search was insane.

The “strikes” you’re referring to are from another era. We should have leaned into being heels. Look at the coaches of some of the top teams in the tournament: Pearl, Sampson, Pitino, Oats. Their respective schools don’t care about past or current transgressions.

SU’s holier-than-thou attitude is getting us nowhere. And it’s phony.

(I don’t believe for one second Pitino wouldn’t have taken the job. You think he cares about who he follows? That narrative is 100% Grade A copium.)
 
(I don’t believe for one second Pitino wouldn’t have taken the job. You think he cares about who he follows? That narrative is 100% Grade A copium.)

I never believed it had anything to do about following JB. Pitino is, himself a legend, why would he care who he follows.

I just believed (as I had been told by others) it was about a 70 year old legend getting to be selective about where he lived. And the wife of a 70 year old legend being selective about where she lived.

He knows he can win anywhere, that's why he'd take a job like Iona, and that's why St. John's made sense. And why I think Syracuse didn't make sense.

If I ever meet him, I'll be sure to ask.
 
I never believed it had anything to do about following JB. Pitino is, himself a legend, why would he care who he follows.

I just believed (as I had been told by others) it was about a 70 year old legend getting to be selective about where he lived. And the wife of a 70 year old legend being selective about where she lived.

He knows he can win anywhere, that's why he'd take a job like Iona, and that's why St. John's made sense. And why I think Syracuse didn't make sense.

If I ever meet him, I'll be sure to ask.
Syracuse is four hours from NYC. That’s not an obstacle.

It’s not like he’s faithful.
 
Syracuse is four hours from NYC. That’s not an obstacle.

It’s not like he’s faithful.
The time to get him was after his stint in Greece. By the time JB left it was too late.
 
Bringing back Autry next season is insane. Hiring him in the first place without a national search was insane.

The “strikes” you’re referring to are from another era. We should have leaned into being heels. Look at the coaches of some of the top teams in the tournament: Pearl, Sampson, Pitino, Oats. Their respective schools don’t care about past or current transgressions.

SU’s holier-than-thou attitude is getting us nowhere. And it’s phony.

(I don’t believe for one second Pitino wouldn’t have taken the job. You think he cares about who he follows? That narrative is 100% Grade A copium.)
There are plenty of other great coaches out there that aren't "heels". You don't have to hire a trashbag to be successful.

Bruce Pearl would get me to stop watching the program completely and entirely. In any other state there's a chance Oats is in jail. Pitino/Sampson are bad humans.

Will Wade is a lesser of an evil since most of what he did is legal.
 
There are plenty of other great coaches out there that aren't "heels". You don't have to hire a trashbag to be successful.

Bruce Pearl would get me to stop watching the program completely and entirely. In any other state there's a chance Oats is in jail. Pitino/Sampson are bad humans.

Will Wade is a lesser of an evil since most of what he did is legal.
Look around. More and more people have already stopped or will stop watching the program completely and entirely. Your mentality isn’t helping.

I gave Autry a fair shot this season. The injury and NIL issues were understandable. Consistently blowing double-digit leads and struggling with substitutions are not.

Unlike some, I don’t think the situation is so dire that we’ll never turn things around. It can be done and it can be done quickly, but only when the university gets serious and hires a serious coach. They gave JB more time and they gave Autry an opportunity to prove himself. It’s time to move on. Without purity tests.
 
Its a mindset difference that stands out. Rick is a hard ass go getter and expects his kids to be same way and Red is a guy who tries not too lose. Doesnt have the vigor the old man does. Big difference.
JB was also intense but probably not as intense as Rick. It seems like Red is trying to be like Brad Stevens and some of the younger coaches.
 
Not true. Pitino was still at Iona when JB left.

Not for long. We announced JB wasn't returning on March 8. St. John's fired Mike Anderson on March 10. St. John's announced the hiring of Pitino on March 20.
 
I really think this is probably underrated, especially the 3 point thing. The guy was ahead of the curve in the 80s with the Knicks. They took 14 3s a game in the 88-89 season, which obviously doesn't sound like much, but the Kings were second at 10 per game, they took 40% more than second place! They took more than twice as many as the league average.

It's a little harder to find complete college stats for the era, but he went to Kentucky and in year 1 they took 28.9 3's per game, just looking at the SEC Tennessee was second at 16.9. Looks like the NCAA average was 11.8 attempts per game.
I still have nightmares of Kyle Kuric and Luke Hancock destroying JB’s zone in the corner. Eventually everyone copied that strategy.
 
I still have nightmares of Kyle Kuric and Luke Hancock destroying JB’s zone in the corner. Eventually everyone copied that strategy.
I've always thought it'd be fun to list all the players who went off and had career nights from behind the arc against JB's zone. Off the top of my head, I remember:
  • Darius Lane
  • Quincy Doby
  • Kevin Huerter
  • Kyle McAlarney
  • Chris Hill
  • I know I'm missing at least a few more. Who else?
 
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I've always thought it'd be fun to list all the players who had career nights from behind the arc against JB's zone. Off the top of my head, I remember:
  • Darius Lane
  • Quincy Doby
  • Kevin Huerter
  • Kyle McAlarney
  • Chris Hill
  • I know I'm missing at least a few more. Who else?
Brendan Plavich
 
Not for long. We announced JB wasn't returning on March 8. St. John's fired Mike Anderson on March 10. St. John's announced the hiring of Pitino on March 20.
So you agree.
 
You might want to reread that. Unless you think he is choosing SU over St Johns. If I were in Pitino’s situation even I would have chosen St Johns too and I love SU.
That’s an unacceptable level of complacency.
 
The time to get him was after his stint in Greece. By the time JB left it was too late.
I wanted Pitino back around 2006, when it seemed like JB had started to lose interest in recruiting, and I had started to lose interest in the zone.
 
"Top 10 all-time coach, bottom 10 all-time human being" was how a former Big East, national title-winning head coach described Pitino.

This was relayed to me at lunch today by someone who had the conversation with said former Big East, national title-winning head coach where said quote was uttered.

I don't care one way or the other. Boeheim was farrr from a saint. But I can understand why some folks didn't want to get in bed with Rick.
 
No 70 yo who already has two rings, and is living in their home city is moving from living on a world class golf course so they can live in CNY. A 50 yo sure, but not someone has is almost done.
He wouldn’t have to move. You act like Syracuse is in North Dakota.
 
"Top 10 all-time coach, bottom 10 all-time human being" was how a former Big East, national title-winning head coach described Pitino.

This was relayed to me at lunch today by someone who had the conversation with said former Big East, national title-winning head coach where said quote was uttered.

I don't care one way or the other. Boeheim was farrr from a saint. But I can understand why some folks didn't want to get in bed with Rick.
If the university is going to shy away from the likes of Pitino and Weitsman, then they have to deliver. They’re not.
 
He wouldn’t have to move. You act like Syracuse is in North Dakota.

That probably doesn’t even warrant a response. So you think he is commuting every day from Mamaroneck to Syracuse every day?

He doesn’t need SU as evidenced by getting a 2 seed this year. There is zero reason to come here for him.
 

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