Zelda Zonk
2022 Iggy Winner: ACC Tourney Record
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1, 3, and 4. My gawd.
1, 3, and 4. My gawd.
N, I and L
Bags, bags, and bags.Bag, bag, and bag.
Winning program, winning program, winning programBag, bag, and bag.
Dion was a top 30 guy. Lands is top 50. Bazely ended up top 20, but then he left because of money. Duke gets top 10 guys.But, when we sign someone in the top 25, it’s not about bags?
Dior, Lands, and Bazely were promised/given bags first, then they got offered bigger bags, and so they gave our small bags back? Is that how it works?
NIL—what industry or media in Durham is more conducive to producing NIL offers than we can? What is deficient in Syracuse? Why can’t we play those games as well as anyone else?
It’s a culture thing man. Our whole program is stale and living in the past if you ask current high school recruits. We are a sleeping giant, but there are other giants not asleep and they haven’t been. It’s all about “what’re you doing for me lately” and it will be that way more-so now then ever with generations coming up.But, when we sign someone in the top 25, it’s not about bags?
Dior, Lands, and Bazely were promised/given bags first, then they got offered bigger bags, and so they gave our small bags back? Is that how it works?
NIL—what industry or media in Durham is more conducive to producing NIL offers than we can? What is deficient in Syracuse? Why can’t we play those games as well as anyone else?
I don’t know what you’re saying. That only the top 10 guys are about bags and NIL offers that we can’t match?Dion was a top 30 guy. Lands is too 50. Bazely ended up top 20, but then he left because of money. Duke gets top 10 guys.
I am saying that if you look back at Duke’s recruiting, it’s very easy to see where it changed. And, it is really easy to understand why it changed.I don’t know what you’re saying. That only the top 10 guys are about bags and NIL offers that we can’t match?
I was responding to the too frequent excuse around these parts, that it’s because of “bags” that other teams sign elite talent. But, when we have signed big time recruits, it somehow had nothing to do with that.
I agree.It’s a culture thing man. Our whole program is stale and living in the past if you ask current high school recruits. We are a sleeping giant, but there are other giants not asleep and they haven’t been. It’s all about “what’re you doing for me lately” and it will be that way more-so now then ever with generations coming up.
I‘m asking for an explanation. Talk to me as if a child I am.I am saying that if you look back at Duke’s recruiting, it’s very easy to see where it changed. And, it is really easy to understand why it changed.
without looking at it, check out the 5 years preceding 2013.I‘m asking for an explanation. Talk to me as if a child I am.
Look back? How far back? When were they not getting this kind of talent?
I agree with your comparison. In the brief peeks at his games, he reminds me of James Southerland. I have not yet seen the determination from him needed to excel in this game.Nice write up -- he seems like a quality kid.
Hope he actualizes his potential, because he has a lot of tools. Seems to struggle maximizing his athletic prowess. Wonder if he ends up being like Southerland, in that regard -- tantalizing athletic potential, but more of a jump shooter who leaves you wanting more.
Nice write up -- he seems like a quality kid.
Hope he actualizes his potential, because he has a lot of tools. Seems to struggle maximizing his athletic prowess. Wonder if he ends up being like Southerland, in that regard -- tantalizing athletic potential, but more of a jump shooter who leaves you wanting more.
In fairness- I would take a Southerland clone in a heartbeat, especially if he can get to being productive sooner vs later.
Bunch doesn’t come close to JSouths ability to rip it….
Yeah I don’t think you were smelling what I was saying…Bunch shoots a 3 like Lawrence Moten; it's practically a set shot. He's not going to be that open to get it off in college, except as the third or fourth option on offense. He has no handle, but he is fairly athletic. I see a guy who's going to need a year or so before he can contribute. I think Maliq Brown, because of his rebounding, is probably going to see the most time among the frosh next year.
Athleticism comparative to Southerland really isn't in the same stratosphere.
People can say what they want, but I don't see elite athleticism when I watch Bunch play. He's decent, and certainly better than the two forwards we currently have.
But he's not close to Fair, Southerland, Johnson, etc. More along the lines of Kris Joseph, IMO. Which is fine, but I don't think he's got Joseph's handle