Stone cold lock of the season

[Capt. Tuttle]

UNC recruits, the coach is along for the ride.

 

[Hopkins16]

Hubert is doing fine stepping in as head coach at a legendary program following the legacies of both Roy Williams and Dean Smith. That's a lot of pressure, and just coming through with a winning record in the first year is commendable. But, the big win against your most hated rival, Coach K's last game at Cameroon with numerous hated former "Brotherhood" axxxholes in attendance, that alone makes a successful season for Hubert and should warm the hearts of Tar Heal nation.

 

[tbonezone]

Hubert is doing fine stepping in as head coach at a legendary program following the legacies of both Roy Williams and Dean Smith. That's a lot of pressure, and just coming through with a winning record in the first year is commendable. But, the big win against your most hated rival, Coach K's last game at Cameroon with numerous hated former "Brotherhood" s in attendance, that alone makes a successful season for Hubert and should warm the hearts of Tar Heal nation.

and K is stepping aside. hubert is safe for now. it's all about beating duke there.

 

[Bayside44]

But surprisingly the UNC AD, who was a big supporter of Doherty, allowed him full reign on his staff and didn't insist on the continuation of Phil Ford, etc. It's a tough situation. Many times you see one assistant coach retained for continuity. But if Cuse hires from the outside, there is no guarantee that any of the current staff will be retained. Ultimately it was Doherty's personality along with limited success that turned players, families and alumni against him.

Oh agree. And I think their fans are more particular than ours about their people.

 

[Bayside44]

 

[RF2044]

Stick to mediocre hoops journalism, Jeff Goodman.

 

[hoopsupstate]

JW will not hire someone from the outside and have him hire all new assistants. That will never happen. That is why the next hire will be an SU guy. JW will not get rid of Red, GMAC or Griffin.

 

[RF2044]

JW will not hire someone from the outside and have him hire all new assistants. That will never happen. That is why the next hire will be an SU guy. JW will not get rid of Red, GMAC or Griffin.

That's exactly what he's going to do -- a national search to identify the best candidate, and then allow the new coach to determine the best staff.

Wildhack is too much of a seasoned executive to make a bad choice with respect to what could likely be his AD career defining legacy hire.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

JW will not hire someone from the outside and have him hire all new assistants. That will never happen. That is why the next hire will be an SU guy. JW will not get rid of Red, GMAC or Griffin.

Hard to say. Let's say GMAC gets the job. I can easily see Red leaving. And if Red gets the job, I can see him wanting to bring someone of his own in. And if someone from the outside gets hired, I can see them wanting to bring in one or two or more of their own guys. If it's Hop, then maybe nothing changes.

 

[Jake]

Syracuse University announces national search for new women’s basketball coach

Vonn Read was the team's acting head coach this year, following the departure of Quentin Hillsman.

www.syracuse.com

 

[Bayside44]

Syracuse University announces national search for new women’s basketball coach

Vonn Read was the team's acting head coach this year, following the departure of Quentin Hillsman.

www.syracuse.com

The whole article is about Legette-Jack.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Syracuse University announces national search for new women’s basketball coach

Vonn Read was the team's acting head coach this year, following the departure of Quentin Hillsman.

www.syracuse.com

I said in the WBB thread that this search could be a great example of what the MBB search is about. If he stays safe with FLJ, he could possibly do the same with Hop. If he is willing to make a splash that could mean the same.

 

[RF2044]

I said in the WBB thread that this search could be a great example of what the MBB search is about. If he stays safe with FLJ, he could possibly do the same with Hop. If he is willing to make a splash that could mean the same.

The difference being that FLJ might be a solid candidate. Who knows who the other ones will be? Maybe they'll be better qualified than her, maybe nobody better will emerge.

But at least they are conducting a national search.

If they do the same on the men's side, the guys currently sitting on the bench won't come close to stacking up compared to the field.

 

[tbonezone]

I want a guy described to have energy and charisma. Those are traits that I wouldnt use to describe JB or even the assistants really.

next coach needs to be electric. not FOSSIL fuel.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

The difference being that FLJ might be a solid candidate. Who knows who the other ones will be? Maybe they'll be better qualified than her, maybe nobody better will emerge.

But at least they are conducting a national search.

If they do the same on the men's side, the guys currently sitting on the bench won't come close to stacking up compared to the field.

Yes. But does FLJ or any other candidate deserve extra consideration because they are an alum. Or do you just compare blind resumes and interviews.

 

[721Comstock]

Yes. But does FLJ or any other candidate deserve extra consideration because they are an alum. Or do you just compare blind resumes and interviews.

Yes.


Now - it really shouldn’t be the former, but Cuse fans have an irrational desire to hire the best alum, rather than the best coach.

 

[realorange]

The difference being that FLJ might be a solid candidate. Who knows who the other ones will be? Maybe they'll be better qualified than her, maybe nobody better will emerge.

But at least they are conducting a national search.

If they do the same on the men's side, the guys currently sitting on the bench won't come close to stacking up compared to the field.

Only if you are saying they are head coaches vs assistants. There are head coaches that are not as good as our assistants. Or maybe you want to bring in the Crean's and those like him of this world.

 

[RF2044]

Only if you are saying they are head coaches vs assistants. There are head coaches that are not as good as our assistants. Or maybe you want to bring in the Crean's and those like him of this world.

Crean? What the heck are you talking about?

In actuality, what I'm suggesting is that they identify the best candidates for the open position, interview them, and then make a merit-based decision. And not delimit the choice based upon BS evaluative criteria, like having former ties to the program. That's a nice to have, not a need to have.

And from my point of view, a track record of success coaching division 1 basketball should be near the top of the list of evaluative criteria. We are one of the top programs in college basketball, there's no reason to bring inexperienced, under qualified head coach who requires on the job training.

And I'm of the mindset that while the candidate pool might not be readily obvious today, when the time comes there will be plentiful candidates who are interested in pursuing this opportunity.

 

[tbonezone]

who's the golf coach ? ink him for 40 years. some people don't like change

 

[RF2044]

Yes. But does FLJ or any other candidate deserve extra consideration because they are an alum. Or do you just compare blind resumes and interviews.

So, the one thing that came from the "source" in that article was that SU will do a national search. The other 80% of the article was just the writer speculating that FLJ might be a candidate, and running through her background.

FLJ might emerge as a candidate, or she might not. It would certainly make sense that she'd at least be considered, but her being listed in that article doesn't indicate that she's one of the top candidates.

I don't think it will be a purely blind process, all depends on the candidates, but being an alum may well be a differentiator if she were to be neck-and-neck with another candidate. But if they are truly doing a national search, it isn't going to be the main driver -- nor should it be.

Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

 

[realorange]

Crean? What the heck are you talking about?

In actuality, what I'm suggesting is that they identify the best candidates for the open position, interview them, and then make a merit-based decision. And not delimit the choice based upon BS evaluative criteria, like having former ties to the program. That's a nice to have, not a need to have.

And from my point of view, a track record of success coaching division 1 basketball should be near the top of the list of evaluative criteria. We are one of the top programs in college basketball, there's no reason to bring inexperienced, under qualified head coach who requires on the job training.

And I'm of the mindset that while the candidate pool might not be readily obvious today, when the time comes there will be plentiful candidates who are interested in pursuing this opportunity.

I have no problem with that statement RF. The original one came off as an insinuation that our assistants weren't comparing with head coaches who might apply for consideration. I don't think the Really Good applicants will be as many as you think. Any school that has a coach as good as we might consider has usually got them locked up.

We'll just have to see how this all plays out and all our thoughts as to how it might don't really mean a lot other than something to talk about.

 

[Jake]

So, the one thing that came from the "source" in that article was that SU will do a national search. The other 80% of the article was just the writer speculating that FLJ might be a candidate, and running through her background.

FLJ might emerge as a candidate, or she might not. It would certainly make sense that she'd at least be considered, but her being listed in that article doesn't indicate that she's one of the top candidates.

I don't think it will be a purely blind process, all depends on the candidates, but being an alum may well be a differentiator if she were to be neck-and-neck with another candidate. But if they are truly doing a national search, it isn't going to be the main driver -- nor should it be.

Will be interesting to see how it unfolds.

The jersey retirement wasn’t a coincidence.

It’s a national search in the sense that they will gauge interest, but the first candidate is Leggette-Jack. If she’s not the next coach, it will be a shock to everyone involved.

 

[RF2044]

I have no problem with that statement RF. The original one came off as an insinuation that our assistants weren't comparing with head coaches who might apply for consideration. I don't think the Really Good applicants will be as many as you think. Any school that has a coach as good as we might consider has usually got them locked up.

We'll just have to see how this all plays out and all our thoughts as to how it might don't really mean a lot other than something to talk about.

That's exactly what I meant -- the types of candidates WE SHOULD BE CONSIDERING for our job would be those with proven track records of success. Against those, neither GMac nor Red would compare favorably.

Agree to disagree on the candidate field that eventually emerges. This program is a sleeping giant -- candidates are going to look at the largest arena in college basketball, the history, the ACC conference, and the AD's ability to put together a favorable compensation package and think -- "I can win there and get things jumpstarted." It's an ego driven profession, and people who have success will be willing to gamble on themselves.

 

[RF2044]

The jersey retirement wasn’t a coincidence.

It’s a national search in the sense that they will gauge interest, but the first candidate is Leggette-Jack. If she’s not the next coach, it will be a shock to everyone involved.

Everyone suggested that FLJ should have been the first call last year. Not sure why she didn't garner consideration then, especially when it made sense to cut ties with the then-current coaching staff.

So if she's the front runner, good for her.

But I don't view her candidacy as being similar in any way to the resumes of Red / GMac [steering it back to the conversation about what the reported "national search" could mean for the men's program]. She's been a HC at multiple schools, including in a P5 conference. She's had ups and downs, but has also shown she can win. She has over 300 career wins, gets 18+ wins most seasons, tied a record for single season wins at Indiana before the bottom fell out her last few years there, had a 29 game win season a few years ago at Buffalo, etc.

 

[kcsu]

JW will not hire someone from the outside and have him hire all new assistants. That will never happen. That is why the next hire will be an SU guy. JW will not get rid of Red, GMAC or Griffin.

And we have a winner