I have a neighbor who went to FSU in the early 70's. She said that her and her girlfriends would take beers into the stadium to drink on Saturdays because no one was there.
Nah. Nearly every time this program shows some life the crowds perk up. We had some very large crowds last year, and in the recent years pre-COVID.
This. I have a group of guys I've gone to games with for almost 20 years. We travel from all over the country to meet up in Syracuse once a year. We've lost a lot more of those games than we've won, but we still go every year. It's a chance to catch up with old friends, drink beer in a parking lot at 8am, and act like we're still 23 for a day. Because of stories we've told other friends about our trips, we've recruited other regular attendees that have absolutely no connection with the school or the city, but are now fans. Sure, I wish we had won more. But the idea of saying "Oh we're not very good this year, let's not go"...that's never occurred to us. Because it's still fun.
This is the issue. 18k fans will come no matter what. The other 22k will only come if there is hope. Dinos eggs has removed all hope for the average fan. The bs it’s the fans fault is laughable. 23 years of poor football has removed generations of fans. Fire Dino and spend on a coach with a proven rebuild record and ppl will get excited again for football and spend their hard earned money. Keep Dino and this program will keep bleeding to death.
I had an eye open Convo recently with some fsu, and Michigan fans I work with. They view us like we viewed temple back in the day. We have become a doormat with zero respect given. Wait till the acc is picked apart and we are playing eastern football against army, Buffalo and Cornell. That will surely sell tickets
Damn Straight , and I remember the people on this board saying how GRob was going to flash his Super bowl ring and 4 and 5 star recruits were going to pour in by the hundreds. Fans everywhere are idiots.
To me it comes down to what's the variable, and what's the constant.
So because of that we should provide Dino another mile of slack?
To answer your question, I literally hear about this to this very day, as the reason some left and never came back because of this idiot with no PR sense, "he told me to get a life, so I did", etc.
Yeah no amount of fan support fixes high numbers of penalties every season and Dino not being a good gameday coach. Sorry bees.
For many people the game day experience is too closely determined by the product on the field. The overall experience is quite lacking for a variety of reasons. The administration can start by addressing the tailgating disadvantages, the disjointed pregame atmosphere, and the phoned-in in-game experience including all the commercial dead time. There is plenty within their control that they can improve that doesn’t even factor in team performance.
That works for one game a year. Reunions don’t have the same appeal if people are asked to do it every other week for 3 months.
I have been a fan just as long, actually longer, and fan support was and always will be tied to performance. I sat thru the Maloney years where we often only had 15K or so, then the uptick after Mac righted the ship and Pasqualoni kept the results high for many years, then the disastrous GRob debacle where perfomance and attendance cratered. You say that fans should follow thru all, I say horsefeathers. Only the most diehard do that, and the truth is SU has never had that many.
