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That would be a fun one. Cheez it would basically have the standings at Clemson/Wake/Us/Coastal champ
Agreed. Popular opinion seems to have Wake in Orange. ND and UNC for Gator and Holiday Bowl. Us for Cheez it. If we don’t beat Notre Dame we will start seeing projections to the Sun Bowl and Pinstripe Bowl.
 
CFN prediction:

Pinstripe Bowl​

Thursday, December 29, 2022

2:00, ESPN

Yankee Stadium, Bronx, NY

Last Year: Maryland 54, Virginia Tech 10

Bowl Ties: ACC vs Big Ten

Bowl Projection: Syracuse vs Iowa
 
Yeah this site isn’t exactly the best, they have North Carolina in the Fenway Bowl
Last week they had us in the Fenway bowl. Maybe they consider that bowl to be #4 in the ACC list since it’s new?
 
CFN prediction:

Pinstripe Bowl​

Thursday, December 29, 2022

2:00, ESPN

Yankee Stadium, Bronx, NY

Last Year: Maryland 54, Virginia Tech 10

Bowl Ties: ACC vs Big Ten

Bowl Projection: Syracuse vs Iowa
This seems funny to me. Iowa isnt making a bowl game this year. They are horrendous.
 

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After the Orange Bowl, what is the order for the ACC bowl games?
 
After the Orange Bowl, what is the order for the ACC bowl games?

ACC Bowl Tie-Ins, Affiliations​


Notre Dame is eligible for any ACC bowl tie-in as long as it’s within one game of the team eligible for the slot. However, it’s not eligible to go to the Orange Bowl as an ACC team.


The ACC Champion will automatically go to the Orange Bowl if it’s not selected for the College Football Playoff. If the top ACC team is in the CFP, the highest-ranked available team is in the Orange.


Like last year, the ACC bowl slots will mostly be based on the matchups that make the most sense and will potentially generate the most interest.


1. College Football Playoff Semifinal: If Selected


Capital One Orange Bowl
Highest-ranked available ACC team, if it’s not the ACC Champion.


First Tier


Cheez-It Bowl vs Big 12
Duke’s Mayo Bowl vs Big Ten
Fenway Bowl vs American Athletic
Military Bowl Presented by Peraton vs American Athletic
New Era Pinstripe Bowl vs Big Ten
ReliaQuest Bowl vs SEC (or Big Ten)
San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl vs Pac-12
TaxSlayer Gator Bowl vs SEC
Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs Pac-12


Second Tier


Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl vs AAC, Pac-12 or SEC
TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl vs SEC or AAC
SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs SEC or AAC or Pac-12

 

ACC Bowl Tie-Ins, Affiliations​


Notre Dame is eligible for any ACC bowl tie-in as long as it’s within one game of the team eligible for the slot. However, it’s not eligible to go to the Orange Bowl as an ACC team.


The ACC Champion will automatically go to the Orange Bowl if it’s not selected for the College Football Playoff. If the top ACC team is in the CFP, the highest-ranked available team is in the Orange.


Like last year, the ACC bowl slots will mostly be based on the matchups that make the most sense and will potentially generate the most interest.


1. College Football Playoff Semifinal: If Selected


Capital One Orange Bowl
Highest-ranked available ACC team, if it’s not the ACC Champion.


First Tier


Cheez-It Bowl vs Big 12
Duke’s Mayo Bowl vs Big Ten
Fenway Bowl vs American Athletic
Military Bowl Presented by Peraton vs American Athletic
New Era Pinstripe Bowl vs Big Ten
ReliaQuest Bowl vs SEC (or Big Ten)
San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl vs Pac-12
TaxSlayer Gator Bowl vs SEC
Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl vs Pac-12


Second Tier


Union Home Mortgage Gasparilla Bowl vs AAC, Pac-12 or SEC
TicketSmarter Birmingham Bowl vs SEC or AAC
SERVPRO First Responder Bowl vs SEC or AAC or Pac-12

Thanks. Crazy that they don't have a set order, just what matchup brings the most interest.
 
Most common projections this week are
1. Orange Bowl
2. Cheez It
3. Sun Bowl

USA Today has an accurate projection imo. They said
Clemson Playoff
Wake Orange
Syracuse Gator
UNC Cheez It
NCST Mayo

UNC/Syracuse could probably be used interchangeably for Gator/Cheez It.

So, we have to beat Wake to get the Orange Bowl (and hold serve, of course).
 
really think Fenway, Pinstripe and Military should all be second tier... perhaps they go by bowl payouts?
 
Would love the Orange if we can hold serve but give me Cheez It, Sun or Duke's.
 
Orange then in no particular order would like- Gator, Cheeze It, Reliaquest.
 
This is taken from a post Hokie Mark made on his excellent web site. The info is from last year but I think is pretty much the same for this season.

BowlLocationPayout
OrangeMiami6.0 M
Outback (Reliaquest)Tampa6.4 M
GatorJacksonville5.3 M
Cheez-ItOrlando6.1 M
HolidaySan Diego6.5 M
SunEl Paso4.5 M
PinstripeBronx4.4 M
MilitaryAnnapolis2.0 M

I believe the ACC takes all the bowl money, puts it in a pot, they divvies it out to all conference members, weighted by the contribution each school made to the bowl fund.

So we aren't looking at a 4 million dollar difference in Orange vs Military, but some bowls pay a lot more than others do.

I don't think the payout will be a big factor in where SU ends up but it will be a small factor.

In the end, I think this becomes a situation where the programs and the bowls participate in who gets paired where.

Surely we would strongly prefer to not play in Boston or NYC.

Thinking we would prefer not to repeat the Cheez-It experience but it was 4 years ago and it was by all accounts a very good experience for the bowl and the SU fan base. So it could happen.

The ACC only gets a crack at the Reliaquest if a B1G team is chosen as the ACC opponent for the Orange. I see a lot of predictions that have an ACC team playing a B1G team in the Orange. This little clause could play a huge role in determining where Syracuse ends up.

Wake has an easier schedule than we do, and gets to play us at their stadium. They have to be odds on favorites to take the Orange and the way the agreement is set up, the Orange has to take their small fanbase if they finish second. The Orange has no veto power here.

If per chance Syracuse finishes ahead of Wake, I could see Wake drop all the way down to something like the Duke Mayo bowl because of their small fan base. Doesn't look likely though.

So how is this all going to break out?

Let's assume Clemson wins out and makes the playoffs.

SU is in competition with Wake, UNC and NC State for what is left.

Let's assume Wake gets the Orange.

Since 2015, the Gator has an SEC program featured every season. The other spot is shared between the ACC and the B1G. Every conference is supposed to get a slot 3 times in a given 6 year period.

I think a new 6 year period started with the 1/2/2021 game. So far the ACC has played in the Gator both years. I would think it likely the Gator will pick a B1G team this year so they have the option of picking an attractive ACC team once in the next 3 years.

So I don't see an ACC team getting the Gator, period.

If they do pick a team, NC State has played in the Gator 2 of the past 3 years. With their relative weak record, I think this is off the board for them. They might want to play the trigger on a 2 loss UNC or Syracuse but it looks unlikely either team will only finish with 2 losses. Just don't see this happening.

If the B1G does land a team in the Orange, I think the Reliaquest is the best landing spot for us. We would have to beat out UNC and NC State for this. Don't really see anyone else in the running. Maybe FSU if they catch fire after this 3 game losing streak.

Here is my forecast for the ACC big boy bowl contenders team by team:

Wake Forest is 8-1 and have the following games left:

@UL (not as easy as once thought; UL seems to be getting better)
@ NC State
UNC
Syracuse
@Duke (still not a gimme)

I am going to assume their experience and the presence of Sam Hartman is enough to get them through these games without a loss. 11-1. The Orange Bowl is theirs.

UNC is 6-1. They have the following games left:

Pitt
@UVa
@Wake
GT
NC State

I think they lose to Wake for sure. They might win all the other games though. NC State has a really good defense but can they score enough to beat the Tar Heels? UNC has to be heavy favorites to get to the ACC title game where they will be destroyed by Clemson (thank God no more divisions to allow undeserving teams to play in conference championship games after this).

So I have them finishing 10-3.

Syracuse is also 6-1. Here is who we have left:

ND
@Pitt
FSU
@Wake
@BC

I struggle to pick these games. With Sean Tucker's health a question mark, I really worry about our offense and if Darton is out for the season, or even a couple of games, I am worried about our ability to stop the run the rest of the year.

I think it is realistic to expect a loss at Wake and a loss somewhere else on the schedule. That gets us to 9-3.

NC State is 5-2. Here is what they have left:

VT
Wake
BC
@UL
@UNC

I think they lose to Wake at home and UNC on the road. Probably UL as well. So they finish 8-4 or 7-5. Not in consideration for the top ACC bowls.

Notre Dame
is 4-3. Here is who they have left:

syracuse
Clemson
@Navy
BC
@USC

I think they end up losing 3 of these (SU, Clemson and USC). I see them ending up 6-6. My understanding is that they cannot be picked ahead of an ACC team for an ACC bowl unless they are within 1 win of that ACC team. This is why beating them head to head is so important. If they beat us, it is possible they could end up 8-4 and take a bid from us. We need to root for ND to continue to lose.

Pitt is 4-3. Here is what they have left:

@UNC
Syracuse
@UVa
Duke
@UM

I think they lose to UNC, Syracuse and win the rest. 7-5 regular season. Not in consideration for the top ACC bowls.

It will be interesting to see what happens if UNC finishes 10-3 and we finish 9-3. And if the Reliaquest has to take an ACC team or not.

Assuming the forecasted records are right, this is what I think is the worst case:

The Orange takes Wake.

The Orange does not take a B1G team and the Reliaquest does not have to take an ACC team.

The Gator takes UNC.

The Cheez-It takes Syracuse.

Or vice versa.

Don't really care about the other teams or bowls. At this point, if we can finish 9-3, I think we are pretty much locked into a Florida bowl. The most likely ones are the Cheez-It and the Gator, but the Reliaquest or the Orange are also still in play.

If we drop to 8-4 or 7-5, our chances of playing in Florida drop drastically.
 
Notre Dame having ACC bowl tie ins without being a conference member in football makes me absolutely furious. Thanks for reminding me as it helps me to focus for this Saturday lol.

Also thanks for putting in the work on that post sutomcat
 

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