SU football plays where you would love a do-over

[Eric15]

Sad t)- McNabb never won 10 games at Cuse

1996 is the year it should have happened. That team was fantastic and had absolutely no business losing to Minnesota or Miami.

 

[Chip]

1996 is the year it should have happened. That team was fantastic and had absolutely no business losing to Minnesota or Miami.

1996 was one of those years where we needed something easy to start. The WR group wasn't experienced, they needed to get their feet wet. Starting against a UNC team and Dre Bly that was better than anyone expected wasn't ideal. Some of that hangover carried into Minnesota.

Miami game was so disappointing that year. Still had everything to play for and laid an egg at home for the first 2 and a half quarters. Then once we woke up we ran out of time. That should be on my list I mentioned earlier, so now there's a top 5.

 

[Bayside44]

For me the line is Miami 92 and UT 99. Esp UT, just punch it in the endzone.

Will Allen's penalty was a horrible call.

 

[Eric15]

1996 was one of those years where we needed something easy to start. The WR group wasn't experienced, they needed to get their feet wet. Starting against a UNC team and Dre Bly that was better than anyone expected wasn't ideal. Some of that hangover carried into Minnesota.

Miami game was so disappointing that year. Still had everything to play for and laid an egg at home for the first 2 and a half quarters. Then once we woke up we ran out of time. That should be on my list I mentioned earlier, so now there's a top 5.

I attended the 96 Minnesota game with my Dad at the Metrodome. It was the absolute weirdest, most fluky football game I've ever witnessed. They had one player return two fumbles for touchdowns on consecutive possessions I believe.

 

[OburgOrange]

I'm so depressed

 

[Millhouse]

At least Delhomme and Fitzpatrick had some semblance of the physical tools needed to compete on the NFL level.

Troy did not have any of the tools needed to compete on the college level.

He was a civilian playing a game that his body simply could not accommodate.

That he was even able to get on the field was miraculous.

If we could get a do over in 1999, I start Madei Williams and stick with him - we are a solid QB away from a high level bowl and a win against Michigan.

i'm comparing fitz to good NFL qbs and how he had to take big chances because he is so inferior. he's obviously more gifted than nunes but nunes was similarly inferior in comparison to good college qbs - just saying he had to go big and take big chances to have any shot

i do remember posters rightly panicking that nunes was going to get too much time based on a decent showing against some goofy mac team (toledo or akron or whatever)

williams just couldn't throw TDs. just looked him his numbers at southern illinois. ouch - really bad. i don't know that i've ever seen anyone throw so few TDs on so many passes. 6 TD on 188 passes at SU and SIU. 3.1%. YUCK. Tim Lester threw TDs 7.2% of passes in 99

 

[OttoMets]

Didn't we end up winning nine games that year - eight in a row - with a trip to the Fiesta Bowl?

I just can't get that upset about an early season loss in OT to a pretty good NC State team.

I think they finished 6-5. And we were favored by 25-30.

It was a bad, bad loss. Players, coaches, and fans could all agree on that one. Just didn't take the opponent seriously after the short week and the big Wisconsin win.

 

[OttoMets]

1996 was one of those years where we needed something easy to start. The WR group wasn't experienced, they needed to get their feet wet. Starting against a UNC team and Dre Bly that was better than anyone expected wasn't ideal. Some of that hangover carried into Minnesota.

Miami game was so disappointing that year. Still had everything to play for and laid an egg at home for the first 2 and a half quarters. Then once we woke up we ran out of time. That should be on my list I mentioned earlier, so now there's a top 5.

That brings to mind a play I want back!

Memory's a little hazy but I think we were down 7. McNabb hit Deon Maddox for a good gain and, despite the fact that the clock was going to stop on the first down, Maddox for some reason struggled to get out of bounds and fumbled in doing so. Ballgame.

I also remember a shaky penalty on Mike Brown right before a blocked punt that would've brought us close in the UNC game.

Lot of missed opportunities that year.

 

[Millhouse]

That brings to mind a play I want back!

Memory's a little hazy but I think we were down 7. McNabb hit Deon Maddox for a good gain and, despite the fact that the clock was going to stop on the first down, Maddox for some reason struggled to get out of bounds and fumbled in doing so. Ballgame.

I also remember a shaky penalty on Mike Brown right before a blocked punt that would've brought us close in the UNC game.

Lot of missed opportunities that year.

No one has ever been more angry about any play than Little Joe was about this. We never spoke of it around him, he needed a trigger free safe space

 

[Chip]

No one has ever been more angry about any play than Little Joe was about this. We never spoke of it around him, he needed a trigger free safe space

There are 3 SU football related moments where I can recall wanting to be at least 2 states away from Little Joe.

1. That Deon Maddox fumble 96 Miami.

2. The Rob Konrad fumble end of 1H, 98 Tennessee.

3. When he lost his lip balm on the drive home from 94 BC.

 

[Eric15]

There are 3 SU football related moments where I can recall wanting to be at least 2 states away from Little Joe.

1. That Deon Maddox fumble 96 Miami.

2. The Rob Konrad fumble end of 1H, 98 Tennessee.

3. When he lost his lip balm on the drive home from 94 BC.

I just discovered the 1996 Miami game on Youtube. I feel like I haven't seen a single highlight of this game since I watched it live in the Dome.

Man it seems weird having Jim Nantz call games for us in the Dome. We used to be so important.

 

[OttoMets]

I just discovered the 1996 Miami game on Youtube. I feel like I haven't seen a single highlight of this game since I watched it live in the Dome.

Man it seems weird having Jim Nantz call games for us in the Dome. We used to be so important.

Found that after my post, I'm sure I haven't seen this since that night.

Jim Nantz used to be young.

Love the old (actually, they don't seem that old) commercials.

Always been a big fan of Darryl Daniel.

The Maddox fumble looks a little different than I remember but is still tough to understand. Why not cut upfield? Why not protect the ball as you turn laterally into three defenders near the sideline? So weird. He also booted a block on an option pitch to Terry Morris three plays before this. Rough series.

Forgot that Ian McIntosh was actually getting reps this early in his career in games that mattered.

 

[kirbivore]

Thanks, I knew I was forgetting the third member of the '90s triumvirate of SU slayers.

At least Blake was NFL quality; Crandall & Barnette were CFL 4 life.

For the 2000's don't forget the immortal Walter Washington

 

[kirbivore]

Didn't we end up winning nine games that year - eight in a row - with a trip to the Fiesta Bowl?

I just can't get that upset about an early season loss in OT to a pretty good NC State team.

NC St. finished a mediocre 6-5 overall, 3-5 ACC. With Miami reeling from probation somebody had to represent the Big East. SU was non competitive in that Fiesta Bowl and had the "Syracuse rule" created since their rankings going into those at the time Bowl Alliance games were in the teens.

 

[Millhouse]

There are 3 SU football related moments where I can recall wanting to be at least 2 states away from Little Joe.

1. That Deon Maddox fumble 96 Miami.

2. The Rob Konrad fumble end of 1H, 98 Tennessee.

3. When he lost his lip balm on the drive home from 94 BC.

there was that vehicular issue with our departure from the banana bungalo (gee whiz, i wonder why chip chose that "hotel") in miami for the orange bowl that made me want to be somewhere else

 

[Chip]

there was that vehicular issue with our departure from the banana bungalo (gee whiz, i wonder why chip chose that "hotel") in miami for the orange bowl that made me want to be somewhere else

If I had known there would be female models from New Zealand at that hotel, I would have picked something else. Apparently I can't judge a book by its cover.

And yeah, leaving that hotel, and saying "you've got room on the right" made me feel bad at first. And uncomfortable later.

 

[Eric15]

there was that vehicular issue with our departure from the banana bungalo (gee whiz, i wonder why chip chose that "hotel") in miami for the orange bowl that made me want to be somewhere else

Why do I feel like the real version of this story is that you and Chip spent the entire evening in the hotel watching Singled Out and playing Nintendo 64.

 

[OrangePA]

NC St. finished a mediocre 6-5 overall, 3-5 ACC. With Miami reeling from probation somebody had to represent the Big East. SU was non competitive in that Fiesta Bowl and had the "Syracuse rule" created since their rankings going into those at the time Bowl Alliance games were in the teens.

NC State played the entire conference tough that year - it was a solid team.

We were "non-competitive" in the Fiesta Bowl? Were you there??

The Orange was a couple of calls away from winning that game - against a very good K-State team.

It really is amazing how after all these years of some pretty bad football, members of this board seek to pick apart the great success we enjoyed back in the 1990s.

 

[OrangePA]

I think they finished 6-5. And we were favored by 25-30.

It was a bad, bad loss. Players, coaches, and fans could all agree on that one. Just didn't take the opponent seriously after the short week and the big Wisconsin win.

It wasn't a "bad bad loss."

It was frustrating but not devastating.

NC State was solid and the Orange lost in OT.

Wisconsin suffered a "bad, bad loss" to the Orange in the Kick-Off Classic.

The 1997 season was a great success.

I would take that season and pretty much every season we had under Pasqualoni in a heart beat.

 

[OrangePA]

i'm comparing fitz to good NFL qbs and how he had to take big chances because he is so inferior. he's obviously more gifted than nunes but nunes was similarly inferior in comparison to good college qbs - just saying he had to go big and take big chances to have any shot

i do remember posters rightly panicking that nunes was going to get too much time based on a decent showing against some goofy mac team (toledo or akron or whatever)

williams just couldn't throw TDs. just looked him his numbers at southern illinois. ouch - really bad. i don't know that i've ever seen anyone throw so few TDs on so many passes. 6 TD on 188 passes at SU and SIU. 3.1%. YUCK. Tim Lester threw TDs 7.2% of passes in 99

I think I understand what you were conveying.

I just don't think the two can be compared.

Fitz has the physical tools to compete on an NFL level.

Nunes did not have the physical tools to even be on the field at a college level.

He played on the basis of moxie, smarts and sheer guts. But he really had no business playing at that level.

It was our weakness at that position that hindered and ultimately helped [along with the financial issues] doom the program.

 

[OrangePA]

1996 is the year it should have happened. That team was fantastic and had absolutely no business losing to Minnesota or Miami.

What should have happened?

We should have won the National Championship?

 

[Eric15]

What should have happened?

We should have won the National Championship?

McNabb winning 10 games.

 

[OrangePA]

McNabb winning 10 games.

That's fair.

 

[OrangePA]

I just discovered the 1996 Miami game on Youtube. I feel like I haven't seen a single highlight of this game since I watched it live in the Dome.

Man it seems weird having Jim Nantz call games for us in the Dome. We used to be so important.

Just love the plain Orange helmet with the blue and white stripes.

Simple and classy.

 

[All4SU]

1957 Cotton Bowl. Jim Brown 4th Q fumble leads to a TCU TD. SU loses 28-27.