SU Human Resource Complaint Towards Heather Lyke

[cliftonparksufan]

HR complaints happen all the time. I’ve worked for, and with, many people who had HR complaints lodged against them.

Some were legit. Others not so much.

Clearly this was leaked to sabotage her AD candidacy. To suggest that Wildhack should have resigned when Kent hired her is ludicrous.

My experience with HR complaints is that, although they might not always be worthy of a fireable action, there is still something there to cause the action to be brought forward.

That's probably what happened here, although it's probably more of someone with a really strong personality "managing" as she always has, thinking she is still the number one person in charge.

Well, unfortunately she wasn't in charge and she probably stepped over the line by going against some JW directives, which he took offense to, and thus either hand delivered the complaint to the DO, or facilitated the leak.

It's a good thing Wildhack has a backbone. Now we will see if J. Michael Haynie has one as well. JMH, you are on the clock.

 

[Newhouser]

We don't know for sure it was Wildhack who saved the day. And until Monday - nothing has been saved yet.

 

[Cusefan95]

We don't know for sure it was Wildhack who saved the day. And until Monday - nothing has been saved yet.

At least it adds some excitement into how the clownshow leadership at Syracuse will screw it up since the easy button was just ripped away. And them chasing down whoever took it so they can hire Lyke anyway isn’t off the table.

We live in exciting times…

 

[BronsonCuse]

Lyle Overbay!! Look sometimes you need a trusty .260 hitter with 67 RBIs to be your next AD! If you gave me Lyle vs. Lyke I think I'll take the big former Blue Jay

 

[Briancuse]

Lyle Overbay!! Look sometimes you need a trusty .260 hitter with 67 RBIs to be your next AD! If you gave me Lyle vs. Lyke I think I'll take the big former Blue Jay

His on base percentage was much higher than Gary buseys. He's hired.

 

[Orangezoo]

My experience with HR complaints is that, although they might not always be worthy of a fireable action, there is still something there to cause the action to be brought forward.

That's probably what happened here, although it's probably more of someone with a really strong personality "managing" as she always has, thinking she is still the number one person in charge.

Well, unfortunately she wasn't in charge and she probably stepped over the line by going against some JW directives, which he took offense to, and thus either hand delivered the complaint to the DO, or facilitated the leak.

It's a good thing Wildhack has a backbone. Now we will see if J. Michael Haynie has one as well. JMH, you are on the clock.

The other factor here is that given her baggage she should never have been hired. An HR complaint on its own is whatever but on someone with a ton of baggage and expensive long lasting failures that harmed a previous employer? If there is any possibility someone like that can get such an important position then you get this out there to refresh everyone on the historical problems too.

That’s the unique circumstance I see here. If she was a success and had a great reputation other than this then I’d take major issue with pushing this out there as it’s effectively a smear campaign vs ensuring everyone is informed in the community.

 

[RedtheGOB]

My experience with HR complaints is that, although they might not always be worthy of a fireable action, there is still something there to cause the action to be brought forward.

That's probably what happened here, although it's probably more of someone with a really strong personality "managing" as she always has, thinking she is still the number one person in charge.

Well, unfortunately she wasn't in charge and she probably stepped over the line by going against some JW directives, which he took offense to, and thus either hand delivered the complaint to the DO, or facilitated the leak.

It's a good thing Wildhack has a backbone. Now we will see if J. Michael Haynie has one as well. JMH, you are on the clock.

Can you point me to the syracusefan.com HR Department? I have several complaints to lodge!

 

[phil77]

It is truly funny watching people trying to relate what happens in the corporate world to what happens in the education administration field. It is like night and day, two different worlds. My wife goes crazy trying to figure out the world I live in because it is totally different than the real world. It is almost impossible to immediately fire anyone.

Example: I work in finance and early in my career, one of my co-workers was caught stealing money from a school's student body account. Upwards of 7k over 3 years. In the corporate world, that person is fired. In the educational administration world, they get a strongly worded letter signed by them, their boss, and the superintendent. That goes in their file. They also had to come up with a reasonable payment plan. They came to work the next day like nothing happened.

HR complaint is an HR complaint they are taken "seriously" depending on what is going on and what the reaction is of the media or school district employees will determine what actually happens not the actual complaint unless it is a few taboo things.

 

[miamicuse]

One of the complaints was her excessive use of buttered sausages.

 

[rrlbees]

Can you point me to the syracusefan.com HR Department? I have several complaints to lodge!

you called?

 

[Jasoncuse]

His on base percentage was much higher than Gary buseys. He's hired.

Its too bad Chet Steadman blew his arm out

 

[Orangezoo]

It is truly funny watching people trying to relate what happens in the corporate world to what happens in the education administration field. It is like night and day, two different worlds. My wife goes crazy trying to figure out the world I live in because it is totally different than the real world. It is almost impossible to immediately fire anyone.

Example: I work in finance and early in my career, one of my co-workers was caught stealing money from a school's student body account. Upwards of 7k over 3 years. In the corporate world, that person is fired. In the educational administration world, they get a strongly worded letter signed by them, their boss, and the superintendent. That goes in their file. They also had to come up with a reasonable payment plan. They came to work the next day like nothing happened.

HR complaint is an HR complaint they are taken "seriously" depending on what is going on and what the reaction is of the media or school district employees will determine what actually happens not the actual complaint unless it is a few taboo things.

In the corporate world a lot of HR complaints used to get people fired. It’s a different universe today and I will leave it at that. Much much different.

 

[FrancoPizza]

It's a bit ironic the last home game is against Pitt and we are trying to expose the wickedness of a former Pitt employee before a certain decision is made.

Can everyone bring in a poster that says: "I do not LYKE Pitt"

Maybe it's fate.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Ok. Does anyone with a Y chromosome support Lyke?

Maybe the Y chromosome chancellors at SU, Pitt , Eastern Michigan etc etc who hired her?

In fact the current chancellor at Pitt, a woman, fired her as if any of it matters, except to you.

 

[Cusefan95]

It is truly funny watching people trying to relate what happens in the corporate world to what happens in the education administration field. It is like night and day, two different worlds. My wife goes crazy trying to figure out the world I live in because it is totally different than the real world. It is almost impossible to immediately fire anyone.

Example: I work in finance and early in my career, one of my co-workers was caught stealing money from a school's student body account. Upwards of 7k over 3 years. In the corporate world, that person is fired. In the educational administration world, they get a strongly worded letter signed by them, their boss, and the superintendent. That goes in their file. They also had to come up with a reasonable payment plan. They came to work the next day like nothing happened.

HR complaint is an HR complaint they are taken "seriously" depending on what is going on and what the reaction is of the media or school district employees will determine what actually happens not the actual complaint unless it is a few taboo things.

1). Totally agree that Sayre’s Law is a real thing. My brother works at a university, his stories of the battles over trivial issue which escalate into major conflicts leading to long-term grudges are hilarious.

2). I’m not sure this particular issue played out differently than it would in business. I’ve seen HR complaints used to hinder or stop someone’s career progression in the corporate world; that’s what seems to have happened here. It doesn’t need to lead to firing, the person who got kneecapped usually leave on their own.

I think Lyle might still become AD - while that wouldn’t happen in the corporate world it’s still a possibility here.

 

[swish7]

…and the school he cared about would now have Lyke as AD. Which appears to be what he was working to make sure didn’t happen.

I do think you can be too loyal - if leaving a company forces changes that benefit the company in the long run, it can be a good decision. That doesn’t appear to be the case here - it looks like JW was exactly the right amount of loyal to Syracuse University.

Anyone still stuck on the hiring of Red and thinking it was all his fault is volunteering that they are clueless and not worth paying attention to at all. Prior to today I thought he did a good but unspectacular job - now I’d consider spearheading an effort to build a statue of him in front of the Dome for saving Syracuse athletics. (It’s premature for that - I’m still expecting the incompetent buffoons in the administration and board will find a way to screw this up anyway, since it’s what they do best. But at least John made it a lot harder for them, now they’ve gotta put in serious effort to muck this up).

Not following this too closely.

Why are we building a statue of John Wildhack?

...oh, because he may have found a way to slow down Lykes ascension to AD? Don't know a ton about her but a friend who met her said she seemed ... extremely energetic.

 

[Briancuse]

Not following this too closely.

Why are we building a statue of John Wildhack?

His stellar overseeing of the bball program.

 

[721Comstock]

Not following this too closely.

Why are we building a statue of John Wildhack?

IF he was the leaker behind the Scary Busey hit piece in the DO.

(all signs point to YES)

and in doing so forced Cuse to NOT be able to hire Lyke as AD,

Then yeah - I’d build him a statue.

 

[phil77]

1). Totally agree that Sayre’s Law is a real thing. My brother works at a university, his stories of the battles over trivial issue which escalate into major conflicts leading to long-term grudges are hilarious.

2). I’m not sure this particular issue played out differently than it would in business. I’ve seen HR complaints used to hinder or stop someone’s career progression in the corporate world; that’s what seems to have happened here. It doesn’t need to lead to firing, the person who got kneecapped usually leave on their own.

I think Lyle might still become AD - while that wouldn’t happen in the corporate world it’s still a possibility here.

On point 2, it is only happening here because it got "leaked" to the media. That is sort of my point, if that story had never made public, my guess is she may have already been announced, or the decision may have already been made. Since she had enough support to over look to get consideration for the position in the first place. In the corporate world, that stuff doesn't really need to leak out; it will just stop them immediately from the promotion, and they probably wouldn't even have gotten an interview or consideration due to the complaint.

I do agree with your overall point at the end, regardless of the complaint, she can still get the position it will depend if the media attention continues or dies off.

 

[007]

IF he was the leaker behind the Scary Busey hit piece in the DO.

(all signs point to YES)

I'm not sure what all those signs are, but this does NOT fit Wildhack's MO.

It's a good bet to assume it came from within the AD office.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

IF he was the leaker behind the Scary Busey hit piece in the DO.

(all signs point to YES)

and in doing so forced Cuse to NOT be able to hire Lyke as AD,

Then yeah - I’d build him a statue.

At least name a trough after him. Or at least that water fountain thingy in the middle that some drunk opposing fans have tried peeing into.

Sorry Ragman. We know those troughs are your domain.

 

[FasterCuse]

you called?

Wait a minute... How do you complain about HR to HR?

 

[cliftonparksufan]

Wait a minute... How do you complain about HR to HR?

Someone I knew was put on a Pip and it was sloppily done with lots of inaccuracies. He emailed that HR person who drew it up along with that person's supervisor. They had to totally redo the Pip and it was inconsequential afterwards. The supervisor who went to HR to put my acquaintance on the Pip was immediately terminated after the ending of the Pip. Not sure what happened to the HR person. Probably not terminated, but probably had a good talking to.

 

[Sherman20]

1). Totally agree that Sayre’s Law is a real thing. My brother works at a university, his stories of the battles over trivial issue which escalate into major conflicts leading to long-term grudges are hilarious.

2). I’m not sure this particular issue played out differently than it would in business. I’ve seen HR complaints used to hinder or stop someone’s career progression in the corporate world; that’s what seems to have happened here. It doesn’t need to lead to firing, the person who got kneecapped usually leave on their own.

I think Lyle might still become AD - while that wouldn’t happen in the corporate world it’s still a possibility here.

How could they possibly hire Lyke over Carparelli? He seems like a visionary hire and exactly what we need.

If Lyke is the choice, SU is in for a world of PR damage control as soon as the hire is announced. Why is the Post Standard being so wishy washy about this and not writing about all her baggage? Beyond the HR complaint, there are other serious documented problems, including financial boondoggles, from her tenure at Pitt. Syracuse fans who haven’t heard about this situation need to know.

 

[Orangezoo]

How could they possibly hire this woman over Carparelli? He seems like a visionary hire and exactly what we need.

If Lyke is the choice, SU is in for a world of PR damage control as soon as the hire is announced. Why is the PS being so wishy washy about this and not writing about all her baggage? Beyond the HR complaint, there are other documented issues with her at Pitt. Syracuse fans who haven’t heard about this situation need to know.

If they for some reason still end up picking Lykes I have to think they know at this point the backlash would be massive and there’s no way to talk their way out of the parade of questions about her tenure at Pitt or HR laundry that’s been dumped by the DO.

You put everything at risk and do so because of one very powerful donor?