Syracuse administration needs to either get on board with the coaching staff

[LeMoyneCuse]

Nothing has improved. I posted the message from Kyle Knapp's dad 2 years ago.

The adminstration sees nothing wrong with a doctor who isn't an expert but a general practitioner who DQs pretty much anyone he can without having an appeals process and players getting cleared by other schools because he wants to protect SU from litigation.

Dino is getting pissed behind the scenes. There are 5 players who barely got cleared and if anything happens will probably become DQed.

Tucker is a problem and the administration is doing nothing.

1) "DQs pretty much anyone he can." So you think Tucker is intentionally working against the best interests of the Syracuse football team?

2) Why wouldn't Syracuse want to protect themselves from litigation? Josh Allen has a heart condition. Heart condition + heat + strenuous activity = not a safe combination.

3) I can't take your word on 5 players who "barely got cleared." What does that mean? Is that from inside the program or second-hand info? And "if anything happens" - is that based on frustrated speculation or fact?

4) How do you know the admin is doing nothing? Are you saying Babers has absolutely no power and no leverage in this situation? Are you privy to the conversations between Babers and Wildhack?

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I believe the truth lies somewhere in between these posts. Is it as bad as the latter poster believes? No, I don't think this will 'run Dino out'. But yes, there are certainly concerns here.

I'm not discounting the fact that there are issues. But where do you go when you start at "We're doomed?"

 

[Alsacs]

1) "DQs pretty much anyone he can." So you think Tucker is intentionally working against the best interests of the Syracuse football team?

2) Why wouldn't Syracuse want to protect themselves from litigation? Josh Allen has a heart condition. Heart condition + heat + strenuous activity = not a safe combination.

3) I can't take your word on 5 players who "barely got cleared." What does that mean? Is that from inside the program or second-hand info? And "if anything happens" - is that based on frustrated speculation or fact?

4) How do you know the admin is doing nothing? Are you saying Babers has absolutely no power and no leverage in this situation? Are you privy to the conversations between Babers and Wildhack?

I could respond to this but it's going to go nowhere and I don't want to waste time detailing.

Stuff that is happening at Syracuse doesn't happen at other schools. We have problems that aren't being even addressed.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

I could respond to this but it's going to go nowhere and I don't want to waste time detailing.

Stuff that is happening at Syracuse doesn't happen at other schools. We have problems that aren't being even addressed.

You're making big claims, but you refuse to back them up? I'm not the one who bumped a thread that I started about how terrible things are.

And it's going to go nowhere? You're on a message board. Where do you want it to go?

 

[Cusefan0307]

He thinks the sky is falling because two players have been medically DQ'ed and one player was not admitted because of academics. You know, stuff that every program deals with, but Cuse's admin is somehow incompetent and not committed to the program because it happened here.

Aren't you a journalist? Or say you're in journalism?

Yes every program deals with this, but multiple insiders have said we have a lot higher DQ rate than other P5 schools.

Wouldn't you at least like to know why or what is happening behind the scenes and figure out what those numbers are compared toward other schools?

I'm sure you'll tell me its not the press job to figure this out so I'm not sure why I'm wasting my breath(typing).

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Aren't you a journalist? Or say you're in journalism?

Yes every program deals with this, but multiple insiders have said we have a lot higher DQ rate than other P5 schools.

Wouldn't you at least like to know why or what is happening behind the scenes and figure out what those numbers are compared toward other schools?

I'm sure you'll tell me its not the press job to figure this out so I'm not sure why I'm wasting my breath(typing).

I was a TV news producer, but I haven't been in the business for 7 years. And of course it's a story, and of course they should look into it. It's 100% something that the press should answer. I want answers as much as anyone else. Why the perceptions of bias on my part?

But if I learned anything as a mediocre journalist, it's that there's 2 sides to every story. I want to know Tucker's methodology, the administration's position, why players were DQed, why Syracuse is more conservative than other schools, what the process is, etc.

What I object to are the charges of incompetence and the belief that only bad things can happen. Yeah, the Clark situation has been bungled. But if specialists get the final word, that means you have different standards on whether a player is healthy enough to play from doctor to doctor. And what if a player has multiple issues? Who gets the final word, especially if they're connected? And what's the full extent of liability?

Mostly, I really object to the idea that there's somehow something inherently wrong with the administration every time any little thing doesn't go the way people want it to.

 

[blizz]

He thinks the sky is falling because two players have been medically DQ'ed and one player was not admitted because of academics. You know, stuff that every program deals with, but Cuse's admin is somehow incompetent and not committed to the program because it happened here.

 

[Toga]

Wildhack getting Syverrud to bite is most likely the issue, if they AD does in fact see this as an issue, no?

Probably a tough sell to get a law man to go against the grain of standard protocol in this type of situation.

The ironic part is by trying to dodge medmal type situations, I think they're opening the door to a greater possibility of a lawsuit. They're fostering ill will with the way they're handling the situation.

Studies have shown that malpractice claims drop significantly if the physician in question simply apologizes.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

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Sorry for not buying in to the group-approved position.

 

[Cusester]

I've been a big fan of K. Syverud but in light of the Clark fiasco and other events, it seems like this is what you get when a lawyer is in charge. Was the closing of the s e x assault crisis center also a CYA thing to make sure the University had no liability?

 

[blizz]

Sorry for not buying in to the group-approved position.

Different viewpoints let us walk away better than when we came. And you (and others) are right to point out that some of us are huffing and puffing a bit too hysterically.

Bottom line is I see a pattern that suggests the university administration does not understand the significance of the football program to the university, the student experience, and the community at large, nor do they seem to care. As a Syracuse native, current resident, and life-long fan, the dismissive attitude and outright arrogance that eminates from the group of decision-makers at the University is unacceptable, this is but one more example.

 

[Okema]

We know at least one past football player Clayton has sued SU over concussions. It also seems that this trend is going to continue/increase. So I would suspect that plays some role be it small or large in their policy towards medical disqualifications. I don't think you can hang this on the AD as I bet he has his marching orders from up high. I would hope that we see a change in the near future to have someone who specializes in sports medicine as the team doctor not a family doctor makes no sense. If we don't see that change I think you can then say that from an administration standpoint SU is not doing right by the players/staff & fans. No doubt that as frustrating as this is to us fans the coaching staff has to be beside themselves. This along with how the dome renovation has been rolled out makes you question those making the decisions at SU at the very least.

 

[illi3]

We know at least one past football player Clayton has sued SU over concussions. It also seems that this trend is going to continue/increase. So I would suspect that plays some role be it small or large in their policy towards medical disqualifications. I don't think you can hang this on the AD as I bet he has his marching orders from up high. I would hope that we see a change in the near future to have someone who specializes in sports medicine as the team doctor not a family doctor makes no sense. If we don't see that change I think you can then say that from an administration standpoint SU is not doing right by the players/staff & fans. No doubt that as frustrating as this is to us fans the coaching staff has to be beside themselves. This along with how the dome renovation has been rolled out makes you question those making the decisions at SU at the very least.

Not to nitpick, but the team doctor is Battaglia who is an orthopedist. He, for instance, was most likely the one there when the the infamous brace was put on.

 

[bcubs9497]

Not to nitpick, but the team doctor is Battaglia who is an orthopedist. He, for instance, was most likely the one there when the the infamous brace was put on.

Which "infamous" brace? Steven's? That was DEFINITELY Denny Kellington.

 

[tipphill]

1) "DQs pretty much anyone he can." So you think Tucker is intentionally working against the best interests of the Syracuse football team?

2) Why wouldn't Syracuse want to protect themselves from litigation? Josh Allen has a heart condition. Heart condition + heat + strenuous activity = not a safe combination.

3) I can't take your word on 5 players who "barely got cleared." What does that mean? Is that from inside the program or second-hand info? And "if anything happens" - is that based on frustrated speculation or fact?

4) How do you know the admin is doing nothing? Are you saying Babers has absolutely no power and no leverage in this situation? Are you privy to the conversations between Babers and Wildhack?

all good points except babers should have no say in a dq situation, with exception of perhaps lobbying for a specialist opinion.

 

[tipphill]

Sorry for not buying in to the group-approved position.

i have used that example before in relation to another issue. i was severely criticized for it.hope u have better luck---

 

[upperdeck]

really makes you wonder of the NCAA should have a national DQ policy and board review.

 

[kcsu]

Specialist cleared him and other programs have offered. Thats all you need to know. Tucker is a cya gp who cant find his medical a. Hole with a flash light.