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Syracuse football defensive tackle Steven Clark's career put in jeopardy by blood clots

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guys you cant sue over a medical opinion or finding.

you can sue if you've placed in harm, when harm could've been prevented and you received harm.

it sucks, but if hes truly healthy, he will play elsewhere and it will be Syracuse's loss.

that's it.

there is NO WAY IN HELL, Syracuse changes their position on this...EVEN IF they change Dr's.

The caveat as I'm interpreting is the brace that was faultily sized and used by Clark - which led to these issues.

I believe if they wanted to go down that road, they might have a case - not sure how strong it would be though.
 
My inclination at this time is not to sue.
I didn't mean to suggest that you should sue. I was wondering if there is a way around the opinion of one doctor who may not be qualified or may not have the most current and expert information of how cases similar to Steven's are treated.
 
I didn't mean to suggest that you should sue. I was wondering if there is a way around the opinion of one doctor who may not be qualified or may not have the most current and expert information of how cases similar to Steven's are treated.
No. NCAA regulations, from what I've been reading, give team docs much latitude and sole authority to medically DQ and not be reversed by someone else. There is NO appealing Tucker's decision. Only way these things change at SU is by bringing in new staff who aren't as "conservative".
 
Babers cleaned house with the exception of one area. I wonder if he wishes he could start over again.

Not sure why he kept this doc, a doc obviously practicing cover your arse medicine. And regarding these dqs; the NCAA should rule via a committee of specialists. These local docs that have no sports med background and maybe secretly believing football is barbaric and not allowing kids or grandkids to play, is getting old.
 
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Not sure why he kept this doc, a doc obviously practicing cover your arse medicine. And regarding these dqs; the NCAA should rule via a committee of specialists. These local docs that have no sports med background and maybe secretly believing football is barbaric and not allowing kids or grandkids to play, is getting old.
I would doubt it's Dino's call on who is hired in this case. If it's truly supposed to be an independent opinion then it wouldn't make sense to have someone he handpicked. Blame the administration, but I don;t think you can blame the coaching staff.
 
No. NCAA regulations, from what I've been reading, give team docs much latitude and sole authority to medically DQ and not be reversed by someone else. There is NO appealing Tucker's decision. Only way these things change at SU is by bringing in new staff who aren't as "conservative".
I would dig deeper into that Steve. If that was the case it would be an NCAA disqualification. The fact that you can leave and play at another NCAA facility seems to indicate that would be wrong. I believe what you posted there means if a day player is at the dome and the Syracuse doctor says he can't play no one can override his call for that day.
 
Not sure why he kept this doc, a doc obviously practicing cover your arse medicine. And regarding these dqs; the NCAA should rule via a committee of specialists. These local docs that have no sports med background and maybe secretly believing football is barbaric and not allowing kids or grandkids to play, is getting old.
wow.

don't really follow much sports nowadays do you??...
 
I found out why. Apparently, the NCAA gives him, and all team docs, that power. Tucker's decision is pretty much iron-clad.

"The NCAA tournament physician, as designated by the host school, has the unchallengeable authority to determine whether a student-athlete with an injury, illness or other medical condition (e.g., skin infection, communicable disease) may expose others to a significantly enhanced risk of harm and, ifso, to disqualify the student-athlete from continued participation."

https://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/2013-14 Sports Medicine Handbook.pdf

Page 34.

Pretty sure it says the same thing in the current PDF.

Doesn't preclude him from getting sht-canned, though...
Thinking this citation pertains to post season tournaments at neutral sites. I doubt the NCAA would want to take an active role in anything so trivial as player health and safety. Preferable to leave it to the school and avoid any liability. You know...Wheelhouse.
 
You can sue for what ever you want. Getting a judge to hear the case is a different story... winning the case is another. But plenty of people have sued for being burnt by hot coffee... falling down and breaking a leg after breaking and entering into someone's house or my favorite because Starbucks said 16 ounces and ice takes up most of my drink. There have been many lawsuits against schools for players dying during practice from unknown medical conditions. It only takes getting the right judge to hear your case. I would bet a good lawyer could present a decent case for loss of future wages for disqualifying a kid who was at minimal risk of a future issue.
 
Thanks. Didn't see him on the 2017 roster either. May have been more serious.
 
under no circumstances, in any sport in America...is a coach, picking his medical team.

Ok, point taken. Thats an administrative thing. Just would think that the powers that be would have understood just how non sports med and cutting edge this guy is. Again, i am all for an objective ncaa committee of health professionals to rule on situations like this.
 
The caveat as I'm interpreting is the brace that was faultily sized and used by Clark - which led to these issues.

I believe if they wanted to go down that road, they might have a case - not sure how strong it would be though.

There's alot of focus on the brace fitting. That doesn't play into this situation as most think. If the brace was too tight, it could have caused a DVT(deep vein thrombosis). A fancy name for a clot in a deep vein close to the bone line. This can happen in any athlete. Point is, this tight brace isnt what caused this genetic condition. So, let's throw that out. Furthermore, the big point is that some hematologists believe that SC doesn't need a blood thinner the rest of his life, thus not putting him at risk for contact internal injuries and bleeding. Resulting in him continuing his career. AGAIN! Let's get a neutral NCAA panel of 11 docs to make these decisions, instead of a local ma/pa primary doc who is everyone's fav community doc. Possibly a doc who doesn't even like fb and might not even allow his kids or grandchildren to play the game we all love.
 
Tucker needs to prove his qualifications to be taken as an expert.
In court when you claim to be an expert you have to prove your qualifications before the court agrees your qualified to be an expert. . Tucker needs to prove his qualifications to be taken as an expert. In court when you claim to be an expert. Based on what I've read in this thread there appears to at least be a case to question this guy's qualifications to be An expert.
It's not a court of law. He is not being asked to explain complex matters beyond common understanding to lay people.
He's a doctor being asked to render a medical opinion. For that, he is qualified.
 
You can sue for what ever you want. Getting a judge to hear the case is a different story... winning the case is another. But plenty of people have sued for being burnt by hot coffee... falling down and breaking a leg after breaking and entering into someone's house or my favorite because Starbucks said 16 ounces and ice takes up most of my drink. There have been many lawsuits against schools for players dying during practice from unknown medical conditions. It only takes getting the right judge to hear your case. I would bet a good lawyer could present a decent case for loss of future wages for disqualifying a kid who was at minimal risk of a future issue.
Wouldn't that be pathetic? A kid could sue for not being allowed to play, and of course there would be a wrongful death lawsuit for being allowed to play despite a known medical condition. The actual liability would be in the second scenario. The University is not going to be liable for disqualifying a player for a medical condition, so long as there is a medical opinion backing it up. Otherwise, just suit him up and don't let him play a down. My 2 cents, if there is a reasonable contrary opinion, and the family decides it is safe or an acceptable risk, their feelings should be weighed. He has played football for a long time. He has been at the center of a lot of collisions. My heart goes out to the family. It is such a shame to have that talent, and to work so hard, and not see the work through to its conclusion. I do hope it isn't an overly cautious Doctor trumping all.
 
Lifetime odds of dying as a result of assault by firearm: 1/370
Steven clotting again: 5-7/1000

Ummmm...that means Steven is almost twice as likely as getting a clot in that instance. (Doesn't help...but again, I understand your frustration and bizarreness of the whole situation.)
 
Wouldn't that be pathetic? A kid could sue for not being allowed to play, and of course there would be a wrongful death lawsuit for being allowed to play despite a known medical condition. The actual liability would be in the second scenario. The University is not going to be liable for disqualifying a player for a medical condition, so long as there is a medical opinion backing it up. Otherwise, just suit him up and don't let him play a down. My 2 cents, if there is a reasonable contrary opinion, and the family decides it is safe or an acceptable risk, their feelings should be weighed. He has played football for a long time. He has been at the center of a lot of collisions. My heart goes out to the family. It is such a shame to have that talent, and to work so hard, and not see the work through to its conclusion. I do hope it isn't an overly cautious Doctor trumping all.
I agree . I was responding to the many people who say you can't sue. I hate when people go skiing and hit a tree and win a lawsuit. Or sue because they get too much ice.
 
Ummmm...that means Steven is almost twice as likely as getting a clot in that instance. (Doesn't help...but again, I understand your frustration and bizarreness of the whole situation.)
0.008 percent. As opposed to the general population's 0.001 percent. Good enough odds.
 
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