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Syracuse football defensive tackle Steven Clark's career put in jeopardy by blood clots

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Excellent response. The focus on process rather than an individual case is where this needs to go. And the role of the NCAA ensuring the wellbeing of the student athlete is foremost but also in ensuring some degree of consistency across institutions is implemented and competitive balance is supported. What is left unsaid is that an NCAA role also mitigates the risk of adverse litigation to the individual member school.

I thought about adding the removal of liability after the email was sent, oh well.

I also deleted a line about the overall incompetence of the NCAA and their ability to impartially oversee anything. It was truthful but didn't fit the narrative of what I was trying to accomplish.
 
To reiterate what Chakka said. The admin has a "spotlight" on Tucker right now in large part to the public response... And as Chakka said, the emails continue to help. I suggest that we keep the emails going to the AD, Chancellor and EVERY Board of Trustee member... We actually have the power to nudge change along here... Keep the emails coming...
If this gets SU to change things, Dino owes us a moderated chat.
 
Follow-up email:

Dear Mr. Wildhack,

I found your response to my previous email very disappointing. That we all want to protect our athletes' health and well-being is indisputable.

I would suggest that the inflexible process currently in place is not in the athlete Clark's best interest to protect his health and well-being. Moreover, it is not in the University's best interest.

To allow one individual, who is not a specialist, to make such an enormous decision with no recourse whatsoever to consider other information from individuals who are specialists is absurd.

By defending the decision and the process you imho are trying to defend the indefensible.

Robert Loveland
 
And if in the very very near future it has been determined Tucker will be gone, perhaps that could quietly be communicated to the Clark family so that a RS year could be taken with the good chance of reinstatement next season.

Hypothetically, if a new MD reviews the records and concludes that Steven is healthy enough to play, I would be upset if the University didn't.
 
Respectfully, I disagree. Wildhack has a duty to uphold the position of teh University until it is changed by the BoT/Chancellor. Just as HCDB and staff cannot openly criticize and must openly support the decision because that is the process as it is, does not translate that any one of them agrees with the process. As Chakka has indicated, there are rumblings of change and the powers that be are taking a serious look at the facts. If the AD, Coaches and Staff do not toe the line, then they would bring unwanted scrutiny to the University. Let the powers that be* have the first shot at fixing the problem, if that fails, step 2. If the AD, Coaches and Staff openly criticized the system (independent MD), they could also cause further investigation as well as destroy the integrity of the concept of an independent medical opinion: i.e. if AD Wildhack removed Dr. Tucker before now, it would appear that the AD could do so whenever he disagreed with a decision. The NCAA would deem this a violation worthy of another investigation (and we know how thorough and competent NCAA investigations are!). However, by letting the BoT/Chancellor review the entire set facts (history of DQs, 5 experts v. 1 gp, easy concussion DQs, etc.), they can remove Dr. Tucker without drawing the ire of any agency.

Remember, these questions are much bigger than Dr. Tucker and AD Wildhack. They way things are handled here will affect how others handle similar situations, which will arise. It sucks that this is happening to a great kid (Steven Clark), his family and our favorite university, but it will likely bring about some change. Ideally, a good person will run scenarios and gather information. I personally like the suggestion for a panel of experts being called prior to a DQ (I am not worried about sidelining a kid right after an injury or holding him out until the treatment is completed enough to return to play) or questioned treatment plan, using one expert chosen by the University, one expert agreed upon by the University and the player and, one expert of the player's choosing. Three experts, whatever the decision, the University and the player abide by it. Similar to mediation, also, this limits the decision to three experts; as applied in Steven case, Dr. Tucker would then finalize the decision of the experts and the NCAA would be mollified.

*Anytime high profile issues are addressed, it is best to have the organization on the same page and move in one direction. This may take a little longer but has far reaching benefits. Simply firing Dr. Tucker would raise too many questions, create issues that don't really exist (who's in charge, independent process to protect the player, etc.) and lets people come to a consensus rather than forcing a decision without hearing all sides.

That said, I still believe Dr. Tucker to be wrong, wish only the best for SC and family, hope the Orange work this out properly. If SC is not given a chance to play here, I understand he has a life to live and will follow him as a fan. I still think he has the heart to play on Sundays.

This is a great post, HtownOrange
 
Follow-up email:

Dear Mr. Wildhack,

I found your response to my previous email very disappointing. That we all want to protect our athletes' health and well-being is indisputable.

I would suggest that the inflexible process currently in place is not in the athlete Clark's best interest to protect his health and well-being. Moreover, it is not in the University's best interest.

To allow one individual, who is not a specialist, to make such an enormous decision with no recourse whatsoever to consider other information from individuals who are specialists is absurd.

By defending the decision and the process you imho are trying to defend the indefensible.

Robert Loveland

If I could like this letter 10 times, I would. well done.
 
I've read every post in this thread. I'm questioning everything right now. I'm questioning my devotion to this program. Going on 40 years now.

Can't believe I'm saying this

Me and you both, brother. while many of these emails are very well written, I think there needs to be some more to-the-point emails and responses. I am still mulling my email, but I can assure you it won't be as nice as many of yours.
 
Is Tucker contract staff? Is it a year to year contract? Is he an at-will employee? Other?
 
Not sure about anyone else currently, but there was speculation that Dungey's injuries weren't as serious as initially thought (at least his second one). Now, I'm more convinced that this is true.
Being proactive is also important, given the inevitably that ED gets hit in the head this year. If he was as close to being DQd as many say, I would be very fearful of his prospects to make it through this year. orangepassion and I talked about this last night. He seems to find contact a lot. Now perhaps we are all just very sensitive to it given his history, but let's say he gets hit hard on a scramble, is he done at SU? Will that prospect affect his play and/or coaching decisions? 2 of the last three games are must wins. Can't afford to not have him in those.
 
Not sure about anyone else currently, but there was speculation that Dungey's injuries weren't as serious as initially thought (at least his second one). Now, I'm more convinced that this is true.

I believe that is the case, yes.
 
Being proactive is also important, given the inevitably that ED gets hit in the head this year. If he was as close to being DQd as many say, I would be very fearful of his prospects to make it through this year. orangepassion and I talked about this last night. He seems to find contact a lot. Now perhaps we are all just very sensitive to it given his history, but let's say he gets hit hard on a scramble, is he done at SU? Will that prospect affect his play and/or coaching decisions? 2 of the last three games are must wins. Can't afford to not have him in those.
Speaking of which, that criminal is still playing for Central Michigan. September 16 at the Dome.
 

Now this an interesting angle. I don't tweet but this would be really embarrassing if national media pundits pick this up and make it known for other universities find out that a fully trained and available DT (cleared by 4 or 5 specialists) and then Steven gets even more interest & offers that their Docs clear him to play at P5 universities.

I'm almost tempted to start tweeting!

Keep it up guys - the best we can hope for is that the University is forced to open an investigation into Tucker & DQ process to either get it changed or to remove Tucker.

Why in the world is SU trying to protect him is beyond understanding? Right now I'm trying to find out if Tucker has any direct connection with any member of the BOT who will end up defending him blindly.
 
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Me and you both, brother. while many of these emails are very well written, I think there needs to be some more to-the-point emails and responses. I am still mulling my email, but I can assure you it won't be as nice as many of yours.
Here's mine. I don't think I pulled too mamy punches.

"Dear Dr. Syverud/Board of Trustees, I am sure you are well aware of the media coverage surrounding the disqualification of Steven Clark, a fine student athlete on the football team. I am not sending this email simply because of Mr. Clark's disqualification but because of the light that has been shed on an erroneus process and the individual at the center of that process.

I am a member of an internet fan message board that loves to discuss all things SU sports. We are lucky enough to have some parents of athletes on this board that can provide unique insight into our favorite sports programs and has allowed the fans to have details about this most recent situation that we otherwise would not have. It's concerning to learn that Dr. Tucker, as a general practitioner, so blatantly disregarded the expert opinion of four different specialists regarding Steven's ability to safely participate in football. If this were an isolated incident, it would be easy enough to disregard. However...

You may not be familiar with Kyle Knapp, he may have preceded your tenure. I can't be sure without researching the timeline. Regardless, he was a player disqualified by Dr. Tucker for multiple concussions. Mr. Knapp's father set the record straight after much misinformation was spread. He made a strong point that is quite troubling. Dr. Tucker did not refer Kyle to a concussion specialist pryor to the disqualification and refused the idea when suggested by the family. The family sought one out independently. They learned Kyle's cause of the concussions, eyes that did not converge properly, was easily treatable with therapy. The specialist was disappointed to learn the SU medical staff missed such an obvious and treatable problem. Kyle recieved proper treatment, was cleared to play, and was cleared by the concussion specialist to resume his career at another institution. Why was Dr. Tucker unwilling to consult a specialist and unaware of potential treatment? The former should be automatic when the latter exists.

The most troubling statment made throughout this debacle came from yet another parent. He said this type of poor medical treatment is more common than anyone outside of the program would want to know.

This needs to stop. Dr. Tucker is either too stubborn or ignorant to do what is right by our student athletes.

The small amount of financial support I provide to the university will be withheld until a change is made.

Respectfully,
sufandu"
 
Now this an interesting angle. I don't tweet but this would be really embarrassing if national media pundits pick this up and make it known for other universities find out that a fully trained and available DT (cleared by 4 or 5 specialists) and then Steven gets even more interest & offers that their Docs clear him to play at P5 universities.

I'm almost tempted to start tweeting!

Keep it up guys - the best we can hope for is that the University is forced to open an investigation into Tucker & DQ process to either get it changed or to remove Tucker.

Why in the world is SU trying to protect him is beyond understanding? Right now I'm trying to find out if Tucker has any direct connection with any member of the BOT who will end up defending him blindly.


I was going to dm mate mink and or Bailey but the need to follow you back to do that. Anyone on here that they have connected with should send automated response to them
 
Here's mine. I don't think I pulled too mamy punches.

"Dear Dr. Syverud/Board of Trustees, I am sure you are well aware of the media coverage surrounding the disqualification of Steven Clark, a fine student athlete on the football team. I am not sending this email simply because of Mr. Clark's disqualification but because of the light that has been shed on an erroneus process and the individual at the center of that process.

I am a member of an internet fan message board that loves to discuss all things SU sports. We are lucky enough to have some parents of athletes on this board that can provide unique insight into our favorite sports programs and has allowed the fans to have details about this most recent situation that we otherwise would not have. It's concerning to learn that Dr. Tucker, as a general practitioner, so blatantly disregarded the expert opinion of four different specialists regarding Steven's ability to safely participate in football. If this were an isolated incident, it would be easy enough to disregard. However...

You may not be familiar with Kyle Knapp, he may have preceded your tenure. I can't be sure without researching the timeline. Regardless, he was a player disqualified by Dr. Tucker for multiple concussions. Mr. Knapp's father set the record straight after much misinformation was spread. He made a strong point that is quite troubling. Dr. Tucker did not refer Kyle to a concussion specialist pryor to the disqualification and refused the idea when suggested by the family. The family sought one out independently. They learned Kyle's cause of the concussions, eyes that did not converge properly, was easily treatable with therapy. The specialist was disappointed to learn the SU medical staff missed such an obvious and treatable problem. Kyle recieved proper treatment, was cleared to play, and was cleared by the concussion specialist to resume his career at another institution. Why was Dr. Tucker unwilling to consult a specialist and unaware of potential treatment? The former should be automatic when the latter exists.

The most troubling statment made throughout this debacle came from yet another parent. He said this type of poor medical treatment is more common than anyone outside of the program would want to know.

This needs to stop. Dr. Tucker is either too stubborn or ignorant to do what is right by our student athletes.

The small amount of financial support I provide to the university will be withheld until a change is made.

Respectfully,
sufandu"

Excellent.
 
Why in the world is SU trying to protect him is beyond understanding? Right now I'm trying to find out if Tucker has any direct connection with any member of the BOT who will end up defending him blindly.

We have to hold open the possibility that Tucker is making decisions that are consistent with implied, but not expressed direction from the BOT or Chancellor to mitigate liability to the university whenever possible. Maybe it has been implied to him that if there is any doubt at all, disqualify the player. IF he is being "protected" this might help explain it.

To be clear, I am not saying this is what is happening, only that it's a possibility.
 
We have to hold open the possibility that Tucker is making decisions that are consistent with implied, but not expressed direction from the BOT or Chancellor to mitigate liability to the university whenever possible. Maybe it has been implied to him that if there is any doubt at all, disqualify the player. IF he is being "protected" this might help explain it.

To be clear, I am not saying this is what is happening, only that it's a possibility.

There's probably some truth to that.
 
Here's mine. I don't think I pulled too mamy punches.

"Dear Dr. Syverud/Board of Trustees, I am sure you are well aware of the media coverage surrounding the disqualification of Steven Clark, a fine student athlete on the football team. I am not sending this email simply because of Mr. Clark's disqualification but because of the light that has been shed on an erroneus process and the individual at the center of that process.

I am a member of an internet fan message board that loves to discuss all things SU sports. We are lucky enough to have some parents of athletes on this board that can provide unique insight into our favorite sports programs and has allowed the fans to have details about this most recent situation that we otherwise would not have. It's concerning to learn that Dr. Tucker, as a general practitioner, so blatantly disregarded the expert opinion of four different specialists regarding Steven's ability to safely participate in football. If this were an isolated incident, it would be easy enough to disregard. However...

You may not be familiar with Kyle Knapp, he may have preceded your tenure. I can't be sure without researching the timeline. Regardless, he was a player disqualified by Dr. Tucker for multiple concussions. Mr. Knapp's father set the record straight after much misinformation was spread. He made a strong point that is quite troubling. Dr. Tucker did not refer Kyle to a concussion specialist pryor to the disqualification and refused the idea when suggested by the family. The family sought one out independently. They learned Kyle's cause of the concussions, eyes that did not converge properly, was easily treatable with therapy. The specialist was disappointed to learn the SU medical staff missed such an obvious and treatable problem. Kyle recieved proper treatment, was cleared to play, and was cleared by the concussion specialist to resume his career at another institution. Why was Dr. Tucker unwilling to consult a specialist and unaware of potential treatment? The former should be automatic when the latter exists.

The most troubling statment made throughout this debacle came from yet another parent. He said this type of poor medical treatment is more common than anyone outside of the program would want to know.

This needs to stop. Dr. Tucker is either too stubborn or ignorant to do what is right by our student athletes.

The small amount of financial support I provide to the university will be withheld until a change is made.

Respectfully,
sufandu"

Great letter
 
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