Syracuse just signed an athlete from Alabama

[jekelish]

Agree with most of what you said, aside from the "decent athleticism" part. Clearly his mechanics as a QB are going to need to be developed. However, on the film his burst from standing to sprinting out of the pocket and his agility look exceptional to me. How that athleticism eventually translates onto the football field as an ACC QB is anybody's guess, but he looks extremely athletic to my eye.

Agreed. I know FSU has some great athletes, but I'm not sure they're so great you can call a 6-3 kid with 4.47 speed and what appears to be excellent agility, who also excels at basketball and baseball, a "decent" athlete. Otherwise, completely agree with the above post.

 

[OrangePA]

I'm actually starting to wonder if the coach completely dropped the ball as far as him getting identified. If you have a big time talent at a school that tiny, it probably takes some marketing at first to get the kid's name out there. If there was no video on him until after his senior season, and he didn't attend any significant camps, probably explains a lot. I doubt a camp at the University of West Florida, wherever the hell that is, would show up on anyone's radar.

If the school is small enough and doesn't have much of a reputation for putting out football players, I doubt coaches in the area would be showing up at it. It might be so small that they bypass the area entirely.

Jason Bromley?

 

[Roger N]

late pickup. QB/ATH thought you non recruiting guys might be interested. Watch the tape.

Kenterius Womack

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1366719/kenterius-womack

I'm very pleased to get this kid. I'm having difficulty understanding how he was not recruited. I just read the Syracuse.com story on how SU became aware of Mr. Womack. The story states Womack's HS coach is Mike Dubose, the former head coach at Alabama. You would think that Dubose would know how to get Mr. Womack recruited. Strange.

 

[Cuseregular]

Agree with most of what you said, aside from the "decent athleticism" part. Clearly his mechanics as a QB are going to need to be developed. However, on the film his burst from standing to sprinting out of the pocket and his agility look exceptional to me. How that athleticism eventually translates onto the football field as an ACC QB is anybody's guess, but he looks extremely athletic to my eye.

yep, I would say off the charts athletic re Pat White, or more accurately at that size Mike Vick. And he says that the snow is "beautiful to me"? Wow. You know better than anyone that that optomistic glass half full perspective is the sign of a kid who has it together up top. In my entire many many years of SU fandom this has rapidly gone to #1 of surprises if he's half as good as I think he can be. He loves the snow...wow just wow.

 

[cuseclappy]

dubose resigned and is expected to be named our QB coach...





kidding kidding.. dont shoot me

 

[tep624]

Jason Bromley?

Could be...

 

[RMH44]

yep, I would say off the charts athletic re Pat White, or more accurately at that size Mike Vick. And he says that the snow is "beautiful to me"? Wow. You know better than anyone that that optomistic glass half full perspective is the sign of a kid who has it together up top. In my entire many many years of SU fandom this has rapidly gone to #1 of surprises if he's half as good as I think he can be. He loves the snow...wow just wow.

Agree...his explosiveness is what caught my eye. I bet his vertical jump is off the charts also. He and Dungey are easily the two most athletic QB's we've signed since McNabb.

 

[PhatOrange]

It is odd but who knew about Jason Bromley until the NYC All Star game in June 2 months before August camp? We go get him. 8 weeks later he's playing as true frosh on the defensive line. 4 years later he's in the NFL.

There's exceptions and this kid seems to have that Bromley sort of dominance. The comp down in NYC and LI is terrible to. That's the knock on Perkins and Fredericks right now. This kid on the film looks like he would at least tear up LI.

 

[TexanMark]

Mike Dubose is retiring...wants to watch his grandkids grow up.

http://www.greenvilleadvocate.com/2015/02/12/dubose-resigns-as-luverne-head-football-coach/

 

[GoSU96]

Agree...his explosiveness is what caught my eye. I bet his vertical jump is off the charts also. He and Dungey are easily the two most athletic QB's we've signed since McNabb.

Just want to add a little perspective. Cecil Howard was a national recruit. Joe Fields was an excellent athlete, same with Broyld.

There is obviously more to the position than being a great athlete, but it looks like these two might have those additional capabilities.

 

[RMH44]

Just want to add a little perspective. Cecil Howard was a national recruit. Joe Fields was an excellent athlete, same with Broyld.

There is obviously more to the position than being a great athlete, but it looks like these two might have those additional capabilities.

All very good athletes.

Size and athletically, Womack reminds me a lot of TCU's QB Boykin who is a converted WR. Hopefully he can perform nearly as well.

 

[SUskibum]

I personally can't wait for the press conference where Saban has to field the same question that Calhoun did about Ryan Gomes because that is what first popped in my head.

Last years record be damned, decisions that I haven't agreed with be damned, I really love our staff starting with Shaf :E

 

[SUFan44]

Just want to add a little perspective. Cecil Howard was a national recruit. Joe Fields was an excellent athlete, same with Broyld.

There is obviously more to the position than being a great athlete, but it looks like these two might have those additional capabilities.

Agreed. To me, you look at those guys you list (Howard, Fields, Broyld) and I don't think it was ever an athleticism/talent issue.
Fields played briefly at another position in the NFL - that tells you all you need to know about his physical ability.

The question with most of our QBs since McNabb has been do they have the mental makeup to handle the position?

How do you react to a 3rd and 15 in your own territory in a hostile environment? Do you have the ability to put your team in the right position to succeed based on an audible at the line of scrimmage or a timely throw away when nobody is open?

Look at the list of QBs we have had since #5 and it's been either they don't have the mental makeup to succeed, or they have had the mental makeup but lacked the physical ability (Nunes, Long at this point in his career, etc.). Or some have lacked both, sadly. Nassib is the one exception, specifically his senior year.

Hoping that Dungey and/or Womack have both and can help lead this team to the promised land.

 

[FAL]

I assume this takes a lot of the butt hurt out of the "he's coming/no he's not/he's coming/no he's not...you're right--he's not coming" QB wunderkind from Florida?

What was his name again?

 

[anomander]

All very good athletes. Size and athletically, Womack reminds me a lot of TCU's QB Boykin who is a converted WR. Hopefully he can perform nearly as well.

Good comparison, I just wish we ran TCU's offense (minus their love for fade passes).

 

[CusefanATL]

It is odd but who knew about Jason Bromley until the NYC All Star game in June 2 months before August camp? We go get him. 8 weeks later he's playing as true frosh on the defensive line. 4 years later he's in the NFL.

There's exceptions and this kid seems to have that Bromley sort of dominance. The comp down in NYC and LI is terrible to. That's the knock on Perkins and Fredericks right now. This kid on the film looks like he would at least tear up LI.

That exception doesn't typically happen when your high school coach is Mike Dubose. With the connections he has, no one should "slip under the cracks"

hopefully we got lucky... but seeing who is Coach is, I just can't wrap my head around it. Is Dubose absolutely hated by every southern school?

 

[orangefog]

That exception doesn't typically happen when your high school coach is Mike Dubose. With the connections he has, no one should "slip under the cracks"

hopefully we got lucky... but seeing who is Coach is, I just can't wrap my head around it. Is Dubose absolutely hated by every southern school?

He stepped down as head coach of this high school football team. Maybe his heart wasn't into the promotion of his players to get division 1 scholarships?

 

[tipphill]

That exception doesn't typically happen when your high school coach is Mike Dubose. With the connections he has, no one should "slip under the cracks"

hopefully we got lucky... but seeing who is Coach is, I just can't wrap my head around it. Is Dubose absolutely hated by every southern school?

me neither, doesn't sound like a legit accounting to me, but then again i am a barely functional paranoid, who is chronically suspicious

 

[CusefanATL]

He stepped down as head coach of this high school football team. Maybe his heart wasn't into the promotion of his players to get division 1 scholarships?

as tipphill said, i am also barely a functioning paranoid who is chronically suspicious - but that seems like 1 of the more insulting assumptions to make about a coach.

Could be the case... but we aren't talking about some teacher who was forced into the head coaching position to save the team, hell we aren't even talking about legendary high school coach Rush Probst. We are talking about a former UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA head football coach. Are you really telling me Georgia State or Georgia Southern wouldn't offer ANYONE that Dubose recommended?

 

[orangefog]

as tipphill said, i am also barely a functioning paranoid who is chronically suspicious - but that seems like 1 of the more insulting assumptions to make about a coach.

Could be the case... but we aren't talking about some teacher who was forced into the head coaching position to save the team, hell we aren't even talking about legendary high school coach Rush Probst. We are talking about a former UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA head football coach. Are you really telling me Georgia State or Georgia Southern wouldn't offer ANYONE that Dubose recommended?

It isn't an accusation, just wondering if the guy just wanted to coach.

 

[CuseLegacy]

as tipphill said, i am also barely a functioning paranoid who is chronically suspicious - but that seems like 1 of the more insulting assumptions to make about a coach.

Could be the case... but we aren't talking about some teacher who was forced into the head coaching position to save the team, hell we aren't even talking about legendary high school coach Rush Probst. We are talking about a former UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA head football coach. Are you really telling me Georgia State or Georgia Southern wouldn't offer ANYONE that Dubose recommended?

So what you are saying is that you would rather be suspicious of this kid or our coaches recruiting than the incompetence of Dubose to help get this kid a D1 offer. OK. Unfortunately it sounds like Womack probably had to sign with a recruiting service in order to get his film out to D1 schools. That's how it got to Syracuse and to Coach Adam.

 

[rosconey]

look we fell face into a pile of dung and came out with a diamond stuck in our teeth -
its that simple

 

[sufandu]

yep, I would say off the charts athletic re Pat White, or more accurately at that size Mike Vick. And he says that the snow is "beautiful to me"? Wow. You know better than anyone that that optomistic glass half full perspective is the sign of a kid who has it together up top. In my entire many many years of SU fandom this has rapidly gone to #1 of surprises if he's half as good as I think he can be. He loves the snow...wow just wow.

I'm not at all surprised that he said he loved the snow. Many southerners I know are enamored with it since they haven't lived with and become jaded by it yet. It helps when you've never had to spend an hour+ snowblowing your driveway or commute to work in white out conditions. Hopefully he doesn't change his mind after walking across campus to get to classes his first spring semester.

 

[sufandu]

as tipphill said, i am also barely a functioning paranoid who is chronically suspicious - but that seems like 1 of the more insulting assumptions to make about a coach.

Could be the case... but we aren't talking about some teacher who was forced into the head coaching position to save the team, hell we aren't even talking about legendary high school coach Rush Probst. We are talking about a former UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA head football coach. Are you really telling me Georgia State or Georgia Southern wouldn't offer ANYONE that Dubose recommended?

Do we know he recommended the kid to anyone? Like someone suggested, maybe he's burned out and didn't go out of his way to get the kid's name out there.

 

[sufandu]

Part of the problem with him may have been his lack of polish at the position he played. He played in a region where most football players are playing year round before they get into high school while he was a multisport athlete. His physical tools obviously scream WR but since he's played QB the last two years nobody knows just how good he would be there. His QB skills are raw so nobody really knows if he's just the best athlete on the field playing the most important position on the field or if he can really be a legit QB. Having said all that it still doesn't make any sense that he was this unknown.