I'd like to think that there's a way to make both happy (and I honestly think the answer is simply a winning team). However, the two groups aren't mutually exclusive. There are plenty of people in CNY that also graduated from S.U. These aren't completely separate groups that are somehow at odds with one another. Let's not kid ourselves about who's going to foot the bill for this thing though. The university can't dip into its endowment to pay for a completely unnecessary football stadium and the city is on the verge of bankruptcy. Where's the money going to come from? The university is going to ask the alumni to pay, just like they always do, and while we were perfectly happy to write a check to renovate Manley or other football facilities, we simply will not contribute to this.
So, if SU wants to build a state-of-the-art 55,000 seat multi-use facility with a retractable roof at Skytop, you think all the alumni will refuse to contribute because it's not "on campus"?
I know how cold it gets in Syracuse and I can tell you that the wind coming off Flushing Bay made Shea Stadium just as cold..
You realize Skytop (at least the portion of South Campus) is part of campus, right? Campus isn't just the 200 yards in every direction from the Dome.
The leaders are very much against a casino. As I umderstand it, they are traditionalists.Now, that's creative thinking. Too bad Turning Stone is so far away. Maybe Onondaga Nation could emulate Oneida Nation and do something in Syracuse. I have no idea where there would be enough property for it ... or how Onondaga Nation could come up with the needed upfront resources... but too bad this was not thought of before Turning Stone was built.
I'd like to think that there's a way to make both happy (and I honestly think the answer is simply a winning team). However, the two groups aren't mutually exclusive. There are plenty of people in CNY that also graduated from S.U. These aren't completely separate groups that are somehow at odds with one another. Let's not kid ourselves about who's going to foot the bill for this thing though. The university can't dip into its endowment to pay for a completely unnecessary football stadium and the city is on the verge of bankruptcy. Where's the money going to come from? The university is going to ask the alumni to pay, just like they always do, and while we were perfectly happy to write a check to renovate Manley or other football facilities, we simply will not contribute to this.
We cant do the second but i feel a Stadium that is in a place where locals would go out anyways and students would find fun (Armory for example) would be the biggest win, win, win, win (University/alumni/city/locals) this synergistic combination is almost non exsistant.
I don't want to have to start rooting for the BillsHow about a new retractable roof stadium built in Syracuse to be shared by the Orange & Bills funded by Golisano & Pegula. Blow up Drumlins and build it there.![]()
I don't want to have to start rooting for the Bills
It's Syracuse University football. The campus atmosphere IS what college football is all about -- walking the Quad, sitting on the steps of Hendricks chapel, listening to the marching band, walking by the buildings peaking in the atmosphere. It's not about drinking beer behind a car -- and I like beer at least as much as the next guy. I have been going to SU games for longer than most here, and I have never once had a hard time parking. And I don't pay to park -- which is certainly an option.
We should be doing everything we can to protect football on campus at SU. If not, the city can just go get a semi-pro team, and the locals can go to those games and drink beer in Solvay at the Fairgrounds.
you do know if the locals dropped SU football for a minor league team in solvay or any other alternative form of entertainment, SU Football would almost immediatly fold right?
Straw man argument. It's not either/or. Give the locals a good product and help make them feel a kinship with the University and they will come. An off campus stadium does not forge a relationship with the locals. It's just a place to play football. Lose there, and no one, and I mean NO ONE will show up.
And who paid to build it?Here are some shots of my ideal location. Some may remember this from a similar discussion we had a few years ago. Carrier Circle has excellent road access and the area has become quite decrepit since Carrier/Magna decided to pull out.
Carrier Corporation located at Thompson Rd & Carrier Circle
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Cardinal Stadium superimposed on the Carrier Corp property. Same magnification. BTW...Cardinal Stadium is a retractable roof facility, capacity 63,400.
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And who paid to build it?
I meant.. who paid for the Cardinal one.It's bought and paid for by the same dreamers who think we're building an open air stadium downtown...