TE Connor Center (Milford) Offered

[xc84]

I found nothing in the Albany Times Union about this kid going to Colorado for football. At least the P-S would have covered a local kid going to a major university.

 

[PhatOrange]

I don't think he's walking on. Doesn't make any sense to do so. Why not follow the original plan and go to Milford to earn a ship. Why not visit Miami?

IMO the writer just made a mistake instead of saying "signed a grant-in aid" aka scholarship.

 

[SUFan44]

I don't think he's walking on. Doesn't make any sense to do so. Why not follow the original plan and go to Milford to earn a ship. Why not visit Miami?

IMO the writer just made a mistake instead of saying "signed a grant-in aid" aka scholarship.

After a certain point in time, there are no "National Letters of Intent". They are referred to as financial aid agreements. Center will be on full scholarship at Colorado.

Writer did not make a mistake. Colorado has used this terminology before on its athletics website, as have a number of schools:

http://www.cubuffs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=600&ATCLID=205690539

Boise State
http://broncosports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/063010aaa.html

Oklahoma State
http://www.okstate.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/060106aaa.html

 

[xc84]

I don't think he's walking on. Doesn't make any sense to do so. Why not follow the original plan and go to Milford to earn a ship. Why not visit Miami?

IMO the writer just made a mistake instead of saying "signed a grant-in aid" aka scholarship.

The article didn't say "signed a grant-in aid", it said "signing a financial aid agreement".

Also, it could make sense. Maybe Miami said they would not give him a scholarship this year and SU already said no...and going to Colorado, getting financial aid might actually be cheaper than Milford...and gives him the opportunity to earn a football scholarship at Colorado. There are scenarios where it makes sense. Otherwise, no one would go be a "preferred walk-on" because you could say they should all go to prep schools instead. I'll be interested to see if any reports come out clarifying it.

 

[xc84]

After a certain point in time, there are no "National Letters of Intent". They are referred to as financial aid agreements. Center will be on full scholarship at Colorado.

Writer did not make a mistake. Colorado has used this terminology before on its athletics website, as have a number of schools:

http://www.cubuffs.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=600&ATCLID=205690539

Boise State
http://broncosports.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/063010aaa.html

Oklahoma State
http://www.okstate.com/sports/w-baskbl/spec-rel/060106aaa.html

I found this on on your guy from Boise:
http://www.ktvb.com/community/blogs/scott-slant/TWTMTWThat-Was-The-Month-That-Was-97585274.html

There’s no Ben Mills for Boise State, but there is Isaac Oeltjen. Mills, of course, is the 7-footer recruited by former Bronco coach Greg Graham who was released from his letter of intent and opted for Colorado. Oeltjen is a 7-1, 230-pound center from Welch, MN, and new coach Leon Rice has signed him to a financial aid agreement (not quite as binding to either side as a scholarship offer).

Also, I think there is a difference between a "financial aid agreement" and a normal offer but in the explain below, looks like he (Center) would get one year.
http://www.jakestakeonsports.com/in...the-future-of-basketball-recruiting-oh-goody/

Bottom line is that I think the "Financial Aid Agreement" is not quite as good as the offer from Cuse and that's why the kid said he may have went with Syracuse if that was his last visit.

 

[PhatOrange]

I found this on on your guy from Boise:
http://www.ktvb.com/community/blogs/scott-slant/TWTMTWThat-Was-The-Month-That-Was-97585274.html


Also, I think there is a difference between a "financial aid agreement" and a normal offer but in the explain below, looks like he (Center) would get one year.
http://www.jakestakeonsports.com/in...the-future-of-basketball-recruiting-oh-goody/

Bottom line is that I think the "Financial Aid Agreement" is not quite as good as the offer from Cuse and that's why the kid said he may have went with Syracuse if that was his last visit.

I know what the article said.

But as SUFan44 also points out it's mute. This kid is on FULL scholarship at Colorado. He's not walking on; that's the bottom line.

 

[xc84]

I know what the article said.

But as SUFan44 also points out it's mute. This kid is on FULL scholarship at Colorado. He's not walking on; that's the bottom line.

Yes, and my point is that a "Financial Aid Agreement" is not as good as what Syracuse offered. It's not "mute" or even moot. It's an interesting fact.

 

[SUFan44]

I found this on on your guy from Boise:
http://www.ktvb.com/community/blogs/scott-slant/TWTMTWThat-Was-The-Month-That-Was-97585274.html


Also, I think there is a difference between a "financial aid agreement" and a normal offer but in the explain below, looks like he (Center) would get one year.
http://www.jakestakeonsports.com/in...the-future-of-basketball-recruiting-oh-goody/

Bottom line is that I think the "Financial Aid Agreement" is not quite as good as the offer from Cuse and that's why the kid said he may have went with Syracuse if that was his last visit.

Not "my guy". Was simply providing some evidence that Universities use this terminology during the summer, when NLIs are not handed out.

Not sure how much more nicely to put this, but Colorado's offer was the exact same one as Syracuse's offer. I am 100% sure of this.

 

[spo023]

You guys realize that a full paid financial aid agreement and a scholarship are basically the same thing except for a few rules? It's actually better to sign the aid agreement because you aren't bound by the NLI rules. For example, if Center decided he wanted to transfer, he could do so immediately and without his coaches approval or restrictions on what teams he could go to. Check out this article on why signing an NLI is a bad thing if you don't have to

http://www.moneyplayersblog.com/blog/2010/11/the-nli-sucks.html

 

[xc84]

You guys realize that a full paid financial aid agreement and a scholarship are basically the same thing except for a few rules? It's actually better to sign the aid agreement because you aren't bound by the NLI rules. For example, if Center decided he wanted to transfer, he could do so immediately and without his coaches approval or restrictions on what teams he could go to. Check out this article on why signing an NLI is a bad thing if you don't have to

http://www.moneyplayersblog.com/blog/2010/11/the-nli-sucks.html

Good information. I think some thought "Financial Aid Agreement" and normal signing (NLI) were the same...that they were just another way of saying the same thing. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[CaliCuse]

Out of state tuition is $15,264
Room and board is $7,062
I'm sure they were able to give him a strong financial aid package.

At SU he would have played at no $ cost to him or family)$ beats everything else. That doesn't even include his opportunity in academics and the field on the eastern side of the country. he kid was foolish for not coming here. He stated he "loved it here . What else was he looking for?Or perhaps the real question is what was better in Colorado? :crazy:

 

[xc84]

At SU he would have played at no $ cost to him or family)$ beats everything else. That doesn't even include his opportunity in academics and the field on the eastern side of the country. he kid was foolish for not coming here. He stated he "loved it here . What else was he looking for?Or perhaps the real question is what was better in Colorado? :crazy:

Seems like he gets that too ...

Maybe if Syracuse was my last visit, things would've been different.

 

[Frozen]

At SU he would have played at no $ cost to him or family)$ beats everything else.
He's on full scholarship at Colorado.
He's on full scholarship at Colorado.
He's on full scholarship at Colorado.

That doesn't even include his opportunity in academics and the field on the eastern side of the country. he kid was foolish for not coming here.
Yes, any kid who is offered by Syracuse but does not accept the offer is foolish. Any player who doesn't commit to your favorite team is making a mistake.

He stated he "loved it here . What else was he looking for?Or perhaps the real question is what was better in Colorado?
He apparently loved it in Colorado too, at least a little bit more than Syracuse. Maybe the playing time situation was better in Colorado.

:crazy:
Yup.

 

[xc84]

He no longer had an offer from Syracuse when he decided to go to Colorado.

"Who knows? Maybe if Syracuse was my last visit, things would've been different. It was just I had to decide so fast, I wasn't ready for that."

 

[TheCusian]

Whew. Lots of text for a guy who a.) Has never played football and b.) choose another school.

Respect to all - but let's talk about the guys who are coming and are pretty exciting.

 

[texascpa]

I know what the article said.

But as SUFan44 also points out it's mute. This kid is on FULL scholarship at Colorado. He's not walking on; that's the bottom line.

Moot.

Mute is a button on your remote control.

 

[tep624]

Not "my guy". Was simply providing some evidence that Universities use this terminology during the summer, when NLIs are not handed out.

Not sure how much more nicely to put this, but Colorado's offer was the exact same one as Syracuse's offer. I am 100% sure of this.

You're 100% sure that Syracuse's Grant In Aid and Colorado's Grant In Aid were exactly the same offer?

Do you have inside information on this or are you just stating that because you feel Grant In Aids are always the same? I believe partial Grant In Aids exists.

 

[spo023]

You're 100% sure that Syracuse's Grant In Aid and Colorado's Grant In Aid were exactly the same offer?

Do you have inside information on this or are you just stating that because you feel Grant In Aids are always the same? I believe partial Grant In Aids exists.

I'm sure no school offers an athlete who should be on scholarship a partial Grant in Aid agreement. Regardless, does it actually matter? He chose Colorado, so be it. We were giving him a free ride, I'm sure most would assume Colorado was as well, even though the terminology of the offer may be different

 

[tep624]

I'm sure no school offers an athlete who should be on scholarship a partial Grant in Aid agreement. Regardless, does it actually matter? He chose Colorado, so be it. We were giving him a free ride, I'm sure most would assume Colorado was as well, even though the terminology of the offer may be different

I wasn't asking you, a person who has no knowledge whatsoever as to the extent of the package that Colorado offered him, the question. I was asking someone who made it sound as if they had knowledge of exactly what Colorado offered him.

You just regurgitate whatever you read from whatever source you read it from. I can make an assumption based upon the vague information out there on my own, I don't need you to do that for me.

And it matters to me, otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question. And I don't need you telling me what matters to me and what doesn't either.

 

[Cusester]

This argument belongs on Syracuse.com. Please stop.

 

[Orangejet]

Who cares about this kid now...let it go!

 

[tep624]

Think you should calm down a little buddy. Didn't know you loved Connor Center so much. Clearly you have other issues in your life you need to work out (Like anger problems) than just your lack of knowledge of financial aid packages for athletes.

I have no idea why I encouraged you to continue to post here after the last time you were incredibly annoying.

For the sanity of the board, I'm going to follow CuseLegacy's lead and send you to the world of ghost posters. Sayonara.

 

[Shaggy]

This kid didn't even play football did he? What, delete thread please. Thank you mods. Moving on!!!

 

[spo023]

I have no idea why I encouraged you to continue to post here after the last time you were incredibly annoying.

For the sanity of the board, I'm going to follow CuseLegacy's lead and send you to the world of ghost posters. Sayonara.

My first post wasn't even rude, I was just trying to help clarify financial aid packages. You came out firing bullets at me for no reason, but whatever.

 

[SUFan44]

You're 100% sure that Syracuse's Grant In Aid and Colorado's Grant In Aid were exactly the same offer?

Do you have inside information on this or are you just stating that because you feel Grant In Aids are always the same? I believe partial Grant In Aids exists.

NCAA Division I football is a "head count" sport, meaning 85 scholarships are allowed to be handed out to 85 people. One for one. No partial scholarships allowed (I-AA is different, as are most Olympic sports).

http://www.speeddevelopment.net/NCAA_College_Scholarship_Rules_and_Limits_-_CollegeAthletes.com.pdf

Therefore, if a kid is offered "grant-in-aid", it HAS to be a full ride.

Hence, Syracuse and Colorado were offering the same exact thing.

My head hurts.