Texas, Oklahoma reach out to the SEC

[Toga]

If the ACC could grab the University of Phoenix, the streaming possibilities would be endless.

 

[kirbivore]

Looking down the road when the biggest football schools completely break from the NCAA does this put Northwestern and Vandy in trouble. Without the need for the "smart schools" anymore to appease the NCAA do those schools get kicked to the curb?

 

[CuseCactus]

The ACC should bring in Trump to be Commish. Because of all the deals - ya know? He'd probably be an incredible commissioner - whatever your politics. If anything - the soundbites about other schools and conferences would be hilarious.

 

[orangemass]

What is the size of ND's endowment fund?

Well endowed...

 

[HOFCeluck]

The ACC should bring in Trump to be Commish. Because of all the deals - ya know? He'd probably be an incredible commissioner - whatever your politics. If anything - the soundbites about other schools and conferences would be hilarious.

That’s a good idea. Then when the proposed deal to bring in Texas and Notre Dame falls through and we end up with Temple and LeMoyne we can all storm the nearest Bojangles.

 

[chugg21]

Depends on where we end up. If the B1G goes to 36 teams (6 divisions of 6) and the SEC to 18 (3 divisions of 6):

-Yes the G5 schools would deemphasize but that may happen without expansion

-That wouldn't happen if P5 goes from 65 to 54. You just cut the fat.

-They will have 10 conference games so it won't be an issue

-Actually they will have more hope. Instead of 7 team divisions with 2 big boys they go to 6 team divisions with 1 big boy. Also, if you add a wildcard to SEC (4 team conference playoff) and 2 to the B1G (8 teams), you add a 2nd chance.

-Yes, more losses are likely which will be a short term adjustment for fans.

-If you are cutting out WSU, Oregon State, Arizona State, Wake, Pitt, Louisville, Iowa State, West Virginia, Baylor, Texas Tech, TCU, Kansas State, Oklahoma State will there be much scrutiny? Most of those are secondary schools within state.

-Yes more sharing of power

In what world are Pitt & Oklahoma State getting trimmed in a football arms race and yet we survive? We just sending pictures of Jim Brown and Ernie Davis to the Commish of the 36 team Big 10 or 18 team SEC and hope that works?

 

[Alsacs]

College football should follow the soccer model.
Have promotion/relegation system.
The teams at the bottom get relegated to the division below.
Teams from bottom division could move up.
Where you finish in the table determines how much money you make.

College sports could actually do this.

 

[Eric15]

The SEC is high on the smell on their own farts

Legit nominee for best sentence of the thread.

 

[baggerbob]

We found a Home last time because the ACC is half public and half private. Also we were the one school who didn’t sue them when they tried to destroy the Big East and their leader ship didn’t forget that. Also at that point our basketball program was hot and there was an idea to create the greatest basketball conference as the ACC was jealous and of the Big East to get the NCAA tournament credits to counter the potential lack of football success.

The SEC schools have A lot more non-alum fans who work from the state and have state pride. That is the case in the Northeast. The Northeast will never really truly care about college football you got a couple teams that are decent you’ll get some buzz beyond that you won’t

When the Big 12 goes, it's only a matter of time, until the SEC, and Big pick apart the ACC, and We have to hope football is better, or we might be out

 

[Scooch]

What is the size of ND's endowment fund?

A gentleman never tells.

 

[elimunelson]

When the Big 12 goes, it's only a matter of time, until the SEC, and Big pick apart the ACC, and We have to hope football is better, or we might be out

Again, how does the ACC get picked off with their GOR time period? I don't get how you jump around the damages on that one? I still think the ACC realizes this (and realizes the money disparity) and try and join up with B10 as some sort of a federation. Almost the equivalent of taking a company private. My guess would be the B10 would have to take all the teams. Synergy of a single leadership, one central commissioner may be worth it to all parties if the alternative is some parties will peel off for the SEC.

The reporters are starting to sniff around on the idea of some schools should be paid more. Why wouldn't the big dogs in the B10 feel the same way?

 

[HOFCeluck]

In what world are Pitt & Oklahoma State getting trimmed in a football arms race and yet we survive? We just sending pictures of Jim Brown and Ernie Davis to the Commish of the 36 team Big 10 or 18 team SEC and hope that works?

What if Joe Girard sends him an autographed hoagie

 

[kcsu]

14 years, the GOR and very strong state Govs in VA and NC plus SU being an Eastern team and only NY team saves us.

 

[Toga]

Well endowed...

If I had a nickel

What if Joe Girard sends him an autographed hoagie

Let's just keep the big guns in reserve.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

In what world are Pitt & Oklahoma State getting trimmed in a football arms race and yet we survive? We just sending pictures of Jim Brown and Ernie Davis to the Commish of the 36 team Big 10 or 18 team SEC and hope that works?

SEC has no use for Oklahoma State. B1G will not touch them academically.

If the SEC went past 18 then Pitt is possible. As for the B1G, Pitt does not have a strong FB brand. They have a small fanbase in both FB and BBall. They don't add market coverage. Their AAU status is the only thing they have of interest to the B1G.

This isn't a football arms race. You need to think more like the conferences would and not like a fan.

 

[Scooch]

I see that the crazy in this thread has jumped up a few notches over the weekend.

Fun times.

 

[NKR1978]

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

What if Joe Girard sends him an autographed hoagie

This could work, depending on what it's "autographed" with.

 

[Toga]

With respect to our/ACC's future, isn't the bottom line what ESPN wants to achieve? Is there anyone outside of ESPN more likely to understand that than our own AD?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Again, how does the ACC get picked off with their GOR time period? I don't get how you jump around the damages on that one? I still think the ACC realizes this (and realizes the money disparity) and try and join up with B10 as some sort of a federation. Almost the equivalent of taking a company private. My guess would be the B10 would have to take all the teams. Synergy of a single leadership, one central commissioner may be worth it to all parties if the alternative is some parties will peel off for the SEC.

The reporters are starting to sniff around on the idea of some schools should be paid more. Why wouldn't the big dogs in the B10 feel the same way?

If the B1G offered FSU and Clemson, who then pulled a Texas and said at the end of the GOR we are leaving, then it would move the clock up. UNC, UVA, Duke, GA Tech would then need to decide how long do they wait it out before accepting the B1G. If they announce when the GOR is over so are we, then that moves the clock up. NC State and VA Tech would then be SEC bound once the GOR is over, which moves the clock up. If the B1G offered SU and BC at the end of the GOR, couldn't the conference vote to dissolve? This isn't likely to happen but it would move the end date up significantly.

 

[Hoo's That]

Back when Texas, Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma St were talking to the Pac 10, the ACC should have added them. The Oklahoma St Billionaire would have kicked in money. But we didn't have a Commissioner who was proactive. Now it's too late.

You are wrong. Swofford talked extensively with Texas, because he knew Texas would make the decision. Before A&M left for the SEC, the ACC warned Texas that A&M would never join the Pac and suggested that A&M might join the ACC, because of schools like GT, VT, and Clemson. The ACC would have taken 4 Big 12 schools then. After Aggie went SEC, the ACC talked to Texas a couple of times - Texas knew that the ACC would take it and OU or Texas and TCU or Baylor, etc.

According to one of our board gurus who is in a position to know, the ACC offered Texas the "ND deal" before they offered it to ND. Texas turned them down. If ATM can find another "no" vote because I think Arkansas and Missouri will also vote "no" (Vandy?) and Texas isn't admitted to the SEC, the ACC will make that same pitch to Texas and they will accept it this time. That guru said they would not decline it twice.

 

[Alsacs]

K

You are going to see a PAC-12-Big Ten merger with Fox.

Hopefully we get a ACC-SEC merger with that soccer model I suggested with ESPN.

 

[HOFCeluck]

This could work, depending on what it's "autographed" with.

Aoli

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Ten schools from the ACC make sense but why would the SEC want NC State, Wake, VA Tech, GA Tech? Would the ACC snobs accept being with the SEC schools? If the two did merge you have 30 teams. If you add KU and WV as well you can have 32 teams.

 

[elimunelson]

If the B1G offered FSU and Clemson, who then pulled a Texas and said at the end of the GOR we are leaving, then it would move the clock up. UNC, UVA, Duke, GA Tech would then need to decide how long do they wait it out before accepting the B1G. If they announce when the GOR is over so are we, then that moves the clock up. NC State and VA Tech would then be SEC bound once the GOR is over, which moves the clock up. If the B1G offered SU and BC at the end of the GOR, couldn't the conference vote to dissolve? This isn't likely to happen but it would move the end date up significantly.

In 2035 mind you. Move the clock up to 2030? TV deals were structured in a way that paid money for content providers. Ultimately these decisions become tv executives deciding on whether to show Seinfeld at 9pm or Friends b/c both tv deals are with ESPN.

ESPN and Fox should just buy D1 college football and decide upon themselves how to divy up the money to schools by who gets the best ratings. At this point that's kinda where this is going. No need for commissioners