The all-inclusive Rutgers dumpster fire thread...

[TexanMark]

That noise you hear?

The 52 Lacrosse bandwagon fans running over to the 10-14 Rutgirls Baseball team.

 

[Briancuse]

That noise you hear?

The 52 Lacrosse bandwagon fans running over to the 10-14 Rutgirls Baseball team.

On the brightside, football is just around the corner.

 

[DeGrozz]

That noise you hear?

The 52 Lacrosse bandwagon fans running over to the 10-14 Rutgirls Baseball team.

I'm not positive, but it's pretty likely that those 52 fans are the same fans that ran over to lacrosse after their 11-1 basketball season started falling apart.

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[HtownOrange]

I'm not positive, but it's pretty likely that those 52 fans are the same fans that ran over to lacrosse after their 11-1 basketball season started falling apart.

We have to applaud Rutgers., if nothing else, they are persistent. Even though they have 100+ years of history as proof that in reality, scheduling only cupcakes early on does nothing to prepare your team for your real competition, they still adhere the same philosophy so much, it has spread to every sport.

 

[sutomcat]

$351.9 million lost in the last 14 years.

They should immediately drop their athletic programs. It would be the smartest move ever by someone associated with that school.

 

[orangenauburn]

$351.9 million lost in the last 14 years.

They should immediately drop their athletic programs. It would be the smartest move ever by someone associated with that school.

Such an insane number. Where would they be without the State of NJ taxpayer?

 

[HtownOrange]

The root of the problem (from the link: Rutgers faculty group 'deplores' athletics deficit, calls for independent review of spending

"Prior to the Faculty Council vote, Mark Killingsworth, a Rutgers economics professor and a critic of athletics spending through the years, presented his own study, which showed the athletics department's deficit to b $351.9 million since 2003-04 and $145.8 million since Barchi took office in 2012."

and:

"According the Fiscal Year 2016 report filed to the NCAA, Rutgers spent a record $83.974 million and produced $45.392 in revenue. The $38.582 million shortfall -- which was partly attributed to the cost of transitioning to the Big Ten and severance deals with deposed coaches and officials -- was made up by $27.16 million in support from the university's operating budget and $11.422 million in student fees."

The issue becomes more clear when we see that Rutgers claims of massive income (yet to be seen) will stop the hemmhoraging. Rutgers will receive a full share "in 2021, the Big Ten is expected to distribute between $40 and $50 million to Rutgers and its conference brethren."

However, they are down $38.5MM today. They are receiving, "$11.2 million in 2016-17, $11.6 million in 2017-18, $14.9 million in 2018-19 and $19.3 million in 2019-20." (from ESPN, Fox to reportedly pay Big Ten $2.64B: What's Rutgers' take?).

Rutgers cannot control spending now and have no proof they can in the future. Additionally, how long will the contributions come in when there is no improvement on the field/court to draw in real revenue (i.e. ticket sales, food/gear, parking, etc.) as opposed to student fees. Recall that they are down $38.5MM, they already receive $11.2MM of the projected $40-50MM, or they actually expect an increase of $28.8-38.8MM. And we know this is projected (hoped for, not realized) money only, while we are comparing future projections against non-inflated current expenses which will continue (and can grow as easily as they may decrease) and are likely to grow unless a true winning program across the board is produced, while they are continuing plans of expansion and development (again, not truly addressed in the simplified financial presentation by the AD.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Christie just threw his support behind the athletic department. So, they've got that going for them, which is nice.

 

[tipphill]

The root of the problem (from the link: Rutgers faculty group 'deplores' athletics deficit, calls for independent review of spending

"Prior to the Faculty Council vote, Mark Killingsworth, a Rutgers economics professor and a critic of athletics spending through the years, presented his own study, which showed the athletics department's deficit to b $351.9 million since 2003-04 and $145.8 million since Barchi took office in 2012."

and:

"According the Fiscal Year 2016 report filed to the NCAA, Rutgers spent a record $83.974 million and produced $45.392 in revenue. The $38.582 million shortfall -- which was partly attributed to the cost of transitioning to the Big Ten and severance deals with deposed coaches and officials -- was made up by $27.16 million in support from the university's operating budget and $11.422 million in student fees."

The issue becomes more clear when we see that Rutgers claims of massive income (yet to be seen) will stop the hemmhoraging. Rutgers will receive a full share "in 2021, the Big Ten is expected to distribute between $40 and $50 million to Rutgers and its conference brethren."

However, they are down $38.5MM today. They are receiving, "$11.2 million in 2016-17, $11.6 million in 2017-18, $14.9 million in 2018-19 and $19.3 million in 2019-20." (from ESPN, Fox to reportedly pay Big Ten $2.64B: What's Rutgers' take?).

Rutgers cannot control spending now and have no proof they can in the future. Additionally, how long will the contributions come in when there is no improvement on the field/court to draw in real revenue (i.e. ticket sales, food/gear, parking, etc.) as opposed to student fees. Recall that they are down $38.5MM, they already receive $11.2MM of the projected $40-50MM, or they actually expect an increase of $28.8-38.8MM. And we know this is projected (hoped for, not realized) money only, while we are comparing future projections against non-inflated current expenses which will continue (and can grow as easily as they may decrease) and are likely to grow unless a true winning program across the board is produced, while they are continuing plans of expansion and development (again, not truly addressed in the simplified financial presentation by the AD.

they always will get state support. people will bitch,but in the end they will get the money

 

[CuseOnly]

they always will get state support. people will bitch,but in the end they will get the money

And our $250 mil goes to Utica...

 

[Briancuse]

Christie just threw his support behind the athletic department. So, they've got that going for them, which is nice.

I thought he was a huge Notre Dame fan, pun intended.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[orange79]

Making room for that hotshot frosh QB

 

[billorange44]

I see another 2 win season for them. Ash is their Greg Robinson. Actually, Grob may even have been a better coach.

 

[TexanMark]

Making room for that hotshot frosh QB

or...Zach Allen's plan is working out better than expected...with Ash at the helm...he career passing yards will surely double to 32 and then the sky is the limit.

I fully expect him to reach it by week 3.

Actually I hope he does well personally while leading Rutgers to a 1-11 season.

 

[W'boro'Cuse315]

And our $250 mil goes to Utica...

 

[orange79]

or...Trey Allen's plan is working out better than expected...with Ash at the helm...he career passing yards will surely double to 32 and then the sky is the limit.

I fully expect him to reach it by week 3.

Actually I hope he does well personally while leading Rutgers to a 1-11 season.

Oh sure. Who could put up those numbers like that in 3 games?

 

[SUFaninNJ]

"Allen, who is 1-of-12 for negative one passing yard over two relief appearances and became the first FBS quarterback since 2011 to attempt 10 or more passes in a game and finish with negative yardage"

This was from a write up after the Mchigan game, in which he also had a fumble.

 

[orangeinjersey]

Thie girls board was counting on this kid starting lol

 

[RMH44]

or...Trey Allen's plan is working out better than expected...with Ash at the helm...he career passing yards will surely double to 32 and then the sky is the limit.

I fully expect him to reach it by week 3.

Actually I hope he does well personally while leading Rutgers to a 1-11 season.

Zach Allen ;-)

 

[texascpa]

Thie girls board was counting on this kid starting lol

Only half of them. The other half believes that the incoming freshman QB will, and they will get 6 wins.

Coming off 2-10
Lose one of two QB's with meaningful experience
New O Coordinator
Worst OL in P5
Freshman QB starter (possible)

Yep, looks like the recipe for 6 wins.

 

[TexanMark]

Zach Allen ;-)

I knew that...you passed. :-p

Not sure why I typed that...:bat:

 

[money3189]

On top of this. Today they lost UMich transfer WR Ahmir Mitchell to a ACL. They thought he would be their best receiver.

 

[SUforme]

On top of this. Today they lost UMich transfer WR Ahmir Mitchell to a ACL. They thought he would be their best receiver.

Ouch...