The alliance scheduling agreement already looks dead in football

[Alsacs]

i never said 50 million so your putting words in my mouth. Im just saying at some point the tv money isnt going to keep going through the roof as streaming is still a much cheaper option for live sports see nfl's thursday night package going to amazon prime starting this year and sunday ticket leaving regular tv after this year

Disagree.
Also all those networks interested have streaming platforms anyway.

The NFL gave their lowest rated property to Amazon at a raise it was getting from Fox.

I mean duh they will do that.

The Sunday afternoon packages are staying on linear TV. The NFL wants ratings which is how it gets paid.

 

[Alsacs]

if this is the only alliance you could be right

What only alliance are you talking about?

The ACC would have to withdraw i mean what is the conference getting aligning with the Big Ten except getting played.

 

[orangecuse]

i never said 50 million so your putting words in my mouth. Im just saying at some point the tv money isnt going to keep going through the roof as streaming is still a much cheaper option for live sports see nfl's thursday night package going to amazon prime starting this year and sunday ticket leaving regular tv after this year

Well, you stated that the B1G & SEC getting twice as much as the ACC wasn't accurate. If each team in those conferences due to these new contracts/upcoming bidding wars, etc., is going to get about 100 mil/each, and the ACC teams aren't even getting half of that, if you're following along with simple math, you should be able to connect the dots and see where that 50 mil figure came from.

Moreover, even more frightening, is that the B1G will be going to the negotiating table again before the ACC. That is just darn right appalling if you're a team in the ACC.

 

[CousCuse]

The ACC commissioner's plan failed and the ACC is spinning, get a new commissioner.

 

[Chris02M]

What only alliance are you talking about?

The ACC would have to withdraw i mean what is the conference getting aligning with the Big Ten except getting played.

the alliance to block playoff expansion until the existing contract expires worked as it was the main reason for the alliance, scheduling was a secondary thing

 

[Chris02M]

Well, you stated that the B1G & SEC getting twice as much as the ACC wasn't accurate. If each team in those conferences due to these new contracts/upcoming bidding wars, etc., is going to get about 100 mil/each, and the ACC teams aren't even getting half of that, if you're following along with simple math, you should be able to connect the dots and see where that 50 mil figure came from.

Moreover, even more frightening, is that the B1G will be going to the negotiating table again before the ACC. That is just darn right appalling if you're a team in the ACC.

ill believe each bigten team getting a 100 mil each for tv when it happens especially since its likely espn, fox and cbs bidding as nbc doesnt pay for sports outside ND football and the olympics and the NFL. All will pay a fortune to keep there existing NFL status quo. The 100 million for the good programs is possible but taking every school good and bad will likely bring the value down to a modest 75 to 80 mil. Our existing extention with espn was at market rate so we should see a sizeable bump for the last 10 years of the deal, will it be close to bigten or sec no but should be a reasonable amount to keep everyone content.
I know its a miracle but if ND every did join, which playoff expansion will have to trigger which is why we sided with bigten and pac12 on opposing expansion of playoffs, we would like see a significant increase.

 

[Alsacs]

the alliance to block playoff expansion until the existing contract expires worked as it was the main reason for the alliance, scheduling was a secondary thing

The Big Ten played the ACC.
Tbey want expansion of the CFB.

They just wanted to prevent ESPN from having it exclusively.

The Big Ten wants to help Fox get a piece.

The ACC was stupid for being against expansion without a real reason.

The Big Ten was thinking about hurting ESPN.
What was the ACC logic?

 

[CousCuse]

the alliance to block playoff expansion until the existing contract expires worked as it was the main reason for the alliance, scheduling was a secondary thing

Blocking the expansion was a ploy to force Notre Dame's hand and make them join the ACC. They are standing pat. It's a FAIL.

 

[orangecuse]

ill believe each bigten team getting a 100 mil each for tv when it happens especially since its likely espn, fox and cbs bidding as nbc doesnt pay for sports outside ND football and the olympics and the NFL. All will pay a fortune to keep there existing NFL status quo

NBC will be involved, there was a recent article about it, how they gambled on the olympics and it failed miserably for them.

 

[Alsacs]

ill believe each bigten team getting a 100 mil each for tv when it happens especially since its likely espn, fox and cbs bidding as nbc doesnt pay for sports outside ND football and the olympics and the NFL. All will pay a fortune to keep there existing NFL status quo

I will trust the Sports Business Journal only gold standard in this stuff.

SBJ College: The Big Ten's billions?

www.sportsbusinessjournal.com

 

[Alsacs]

NBC will be involved, there was a recent article about it, how it gambled on the olympics and it failed miserably for them.

NBC To Make Big Push For Big Ten Media Rights

"If I’m ESPN or Fox, I’m looking over my shoulder because NBC is going to go hard after the Big Ten,” a source told FOS.

frontofficesports.com

The Big Ten is going to be paid a chitload.
They will make close to 100 million per year.

 

[Alsacs]

The ESPN 10 year 3 billion dollar deal with SEC is going to look like a bargin when the Big Ten deal gets done.

 

[Chris02M]

Blocking the expansion was a ploy to force Notre Dame's hand and make them join the ACC. They are standing pat. It's a FAIL.

For now, not forever necessarilly

 

[CousCuse]

NBC To Make Big Push For Big Ten Media Rights

"If I’m ESPN or Fox, I’m looking over my shoulder because NBC is going to go hard after the Big Ten,” a source told FOS.

frontofficesports.com

The Big Ten is going to be paid a chitload.
They will make close to 100 million per year.

The spread is too wide now and the $3oo million GOR won't do anything to stop an exodus. In fact, it encourages teams because that is a lot of money to litigate over and deals would happen and maybe the GOR would ruled be null and void.

 

[Alsacs]

For now, not forever necessarilly

They have the votes to expand.
Again this was about helping Fox and hurt ESPN.

The Big Ten will want expansion after this contract and what the hell did the ACC get?

Total epic fail if people actual see what happened. ACC was stupid.

 

[Chris02M]

NBC To Make Big Push For Big Ten Media Rights

"If I’m ESPN or Fox, I’m looking over my shoulder because NBC is going to go hard after the Big Ten,” a source told FOS.

frontofficesports.com

The Big Ten is going to be paid a chitload.
They will make close to 100 million per year.

there was a similar article written when acc was considering going on the market before extending with espn though too

 

[orangecuse]

The ESPN 10 year 3 billion dollar deal with SEC is going to look like a bargin when the Big Ten deal gets done.

You know in that case, that'll piss the SEC off. They'll then likely invite FSU and Clemson to join, perhaps even VT and NCST in a strategy for renegotiation of that contract, etc. There's no doubt in my mind, that if offered, they'd all bolt in a heartbeat. Afterwards, who knows what the main players in the ACC (UNC & UVA) end up doing, but they'll likely have no other choice than to 'follow the money.'

 

[Alsacs]

You know in that case, that'll piss the SEC off. They'll then likely invite FSU and Clemson to join, perhaps even VT and NCST in an strategy for renegotiation of that contract, etc. There's no doubt in my mind, that if offered, they'd all bolt in a heartbeat. Afterwards, who knows what the main players in the ACC (UNC & UVA) end up doing.

I don’t think the SEC will care if the dollars are real close but if their is a gap they will respond.

 

[Chris02M]

They have the votes to expand.
Again this was about helping Fox and hurt ESPN.

The Big Ten will want expansion after this contract and what the hell did the ACC get?

Total epic fail if people actual see what happened. ACC was stupid.

College Football Playoff committee cannot reach unanimous decision on expansion - Sports Illustrated

The committee will continue to discuss an expansion for the 2026–27 season.

www.si.com

they dont have the votes yet.

 

[orangecuse]

I don’t think the SEC will care if the dollars are real close but if their is a gap they will respond.

And, they most certainly have the leverage to do it. As with any and all negotiations, it's the party with the superior leverage that matters/carries the most weight, and will always win out.

 

[Alsacs]

College Football Playoff committee cannot reach unanimous decision on expansion - Sports Illustrated

The committee will continue to discuss an expansion for the 2026–27 season.

www.si.com

they dont have the votes yet.

They don’t have the votes because it has to be unanimous to expand DURING the contract.
Once the contract expires it won’t have to be unanimous.

You don’t get the Big Ten and Fox war against ESPN.

The ACC was stupid.
It was 8-3 in favor of expansion.

The Big Ten commissioner has said he wants expansion but wants to wait and why? So Fox can bid.
The Pac-12 is the B1G b@tch and the ACC for some stupid reason voted with them.

The ACC has NO REASON to be against expansion.

 

[Chris02M]

They don’t have the votes because it has to be unanimous to expand DURING the contract.
Once the contract expires it won’t have to be unanimous.

You don’t get the Big Ten and Fox war against ESPN.

The ACC was stupid.
It was 8-3 in favor of expansion.

The Big Ten commissioner has said he wants expansion but wants to wait and why? So Fox can bid.
The Pac-12 is the B1G b@tch and the ACC for some stupid reason voted with them.

The ACC has NO REASON to be against expansion.

we voted against expansion to fix other pressing issues before then like fixing the transfer rule which the coaches really want and nil stuff

 

[sutomcat]

The spread is too wide now and the $3oo million GOR won't do anything to stop an exodus. In fact, it encourages teams because that is a lot of money to litigate over and deals would happen and maybe the GOR would ruled be null and void.

What if NBC does go all in with B1G football? That would likely mean ND football loses their deal with them. Would any other network feature them and give that the incredible VIP treatment that NBC did?

I doubt it. If so, it would probably be something nontraditional, like Amazon or Google.

I am wondering if the B1G might inadvertently give ND football independence a final death bowl here?

 

[Alsacs]

What if NBC does go all in with B1G football? That would likely mean ND football loses their deal with them. Would any other network feature them and give that the incredible VIP treatment that NBC did?

I doubt it. If so, it would probably be something nontraditional, like Amazon or Google.

I am wondering if the B1G might inadvertently give ND football independence a final death bowl here?

You realize NBC plan is too combine Big Ten game and ND doubleheaders.

These deals will only make ND more money themselves when they become a FA.

NBC isn’t letting ND go if they get the Big Ten.

NBC would give ND something like 50 million annually for their 7 home games each year.

Then have Big Ten games at 12, 8 and ND at 3:30 thru November.

 

[sutomcat]

You realize NBC plan is too combine Big Ten game and ND doubleheaders.

These deals will only make ND more money themselves when they become a FA.

NBC isn’t letting ND go if they get the Big Ten.

NBC would give ND something like 50 million annually for their 7 home games each year.

Then have Big Ten games at 12, 8 and ND at 3:30 thru November.

No, I don‘t know NBC’s plans.

I know right now ND is their only college football property and they feature it with a prominence that they could never do if they sign a contract with the B1G. Especially given that the money they would pay to the B1G would dwarf any money they might still have around for ND. I believe in the event they decided to go after and wereable to land both, B1G football would be given the best slots. Every week,

If NBC kept ND football, it would be an opening act. A minor attraction. And would be paid accordingly. The big thing the NBC contract gave ND was that special featured treatment that made some think the program was different than other programs. I guarantee you ND does not want NBC to bring the B1G on board. It would be awful for their football program to be marginalized like that.