The Annual Bubble Discussion Thread - 2021 Version

[PauliePeppas]

Who we want uconn of hall

 

[jdubs30]

Who we want uconn of hall

UConn is safer than Hall... but ,.. also Buddy going off against UConn in the play in game would be legendary

 

[SUOrangeSU]

We sure we are still on the wrong side of the bubble, even with this win?

 

[NineOneSeven]

We sure we are still on the wrong side of the bubble, even with this win?

Yeah.

 

[jdubs30]

We sure we are still on the wrong side of the bubble, even with this win?

Yes easily ... we probably need 2 wins next week

 

[DCUNITED13]

On Sunday I was Sad

Wednesday Night

 

[jdubs30]

NC state winning gives us a q1 win

 

[Madbiker]

We sure we are still on the wrong side of the bubble, even with this win?

According to Lunardi (LOL) after our Clemson win, SU needs 2 wins in the ACCT to get to last 4 in. Seems one of those wins would be either FSU or UVA in our 2nd game draw.

 

[Cusesky8214]

 

[Trueblue25]

This is funny yet depressing

 

[syrBossHogg]

Another good night so far. Hopefully USC takes care of business

 

[NineOneSeven]

Another good night so far. Hopefully USC takes care of business

USC up 19 at half.

 

[sutomcat]

USC up 19 at half.

Our odds of making the tournament jumped to 30.1% after the Clemson game, according to this site.

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[Orangezoo]

Syracuse's NCAA Resume Compared to Other Bubble Teams

How strong is Syracuse's resume in comparison to other bubble teams?

www.si.com

Nice breakdown here. It's really imbalanced and I think you actually have to look at Q1 and Q2 combined. Our first tourney win is going to be another Q2 if we get it. Second win would most likely be another Q1. In either case no matter who we play in our first game it's likely we knock out competition for the bid we want. If we snag two wins and Louisville goes out in their first ACCT game they could be in trouble at our benefit.

Beyond the talking heads, it's possible we may be in better position than we think. There are examples in the past where avoiding bad losses has served as a strong factor beyond just getting good wins.

Note that all but one of our road losses were Q1 losses. The ugly stain on our resume is Pitt. If we hadn't bombed those games we probably are securely in.

 

[justgold315]

Games of Interest Wednesday, March 3rd:

• 5PM Clemson at Syracuse: The Cuse must get the win tonight. Tape up the legs of Quincy and Kadary, give them numerous pain killer shots and worry about the consequences tomorrow. Let’s hope Griff hits his first shot and then his head stays in the game. Need Girard to break out of the funk and play hard, smart and regain some swagger
• 6:30PM Uconn at Seton Hall: Uconn in the 10 seed range, Hall falls in the precarious last 4 in bucket. I’m not saying to root for it, but if you can swallow the foul taste a husky win may be the better outcome.
• 7PM NC State at Notre Dame: NC State being classified a Quad 1 road win and Quad 2 home win is dependent on the wolfpack staying inside the top 75 NET rankings. As of this morning they moved to #76. We need to root for State to get the road win.
• 7PM Minnesota at Penn State: Gophers have completely collapsed and played themselves out of the bracket. They are 0-9 on the road and this is their last chance for a road win. Also sitting at 13-12 they need this badly. Root for PSU to throw more dirt on their graves.
• 10:30PM Stanford at USC: Stanford sits in the first four out bucket. We need USC to protect the home court. A Road win here would likely put the Cardinal back in.

So this pretty much went perfect last night

 

[NineOneSeven]

So this pretty much went perfect last night

 

[syrBossHogg]

No idea how reliable TeamRankings has been in the past but they're bullish on our chances

 

[NineOneSeven]

No idea how reliable TeamRankings has been in the past but they're bullish on our chances

 

[Orangezoo]

So Net 51, BPI is 36 and Sagarin is 42 Pomeroy is 54 but we have not traditionally done well with Pomeroy even with better teams. Where we sit isn't a bad place to be. A win over say Duke likely pushes each of these up a few spots. We actually could be one of those teams who everyone thinks no way and then pisses the world off when we aren't even one of the last 4 teams in

 

[jdubs30]

I do think if we are close they’ll put us in. After losing out on all the revenue last year, they probably want as many “big name” teams as possible. Also because of the lack of OOC games, I think it’ll hurt the mid majors

 

[upperdeck]

if you take quad 1-2 as a lump and the reality quad 1 is just as arbitrary as anything else. is playing #40 really different than #41?

but if you go by those top games as a whole we are in the top 4-5 of all the teams on that list.. then if you really watch all those teams play we are there too,

Neutral site like the NCAA tourney we would be favored in all but 2-3 of those games.. we lost several chances at quad 1 wins.. a team like MSU got way more shots at them.

 

[upperdeck]

If this is the bubble.. right now I would rank them for all season and how they are playing now

UL
GT
Rutgers
Syracuse
MSU
VCU
SH
Duke


CUT LINE these
Xavier
Drake

the rest are not very good no matter the record.

boise/utah/st louis
SMU Memphs Ole Miss

If MSU splits with Mich they are in.. If they lose twice they better win 2 in the B10 to be back in the discussion.

 

[nycfan]

These are my own personal thoughts but curious if everyone feels similarly -- if we win 2 (which would probably include a win over FSU), it gets us in. But the tricky part is if we win one, and lose a close one on Thursday (especially if it's FSU) -- I am thinking about 50/50 at that point? (in essence the standard annual Selection Sunday stress).

 

[CsonkaStash]

These are my own personal thoughts but curious if everyone feels similarly -- if we win 2 (which would probably include a win over FSU), it gets us in. But the tricky part is if we win one, and lose a close one on Thursday (especially if it's FSU) -- I am thinking about 50/50 at that point? (in essence the standard annual Selection Sunday stress).

How exactly is Duke ahead of us

If this is the bubble.. right now I would rank them for all season and how they are playing now

UL
GT
Rutgers
Syracuse
MSU
VCU
SH
Duke


CUT LINE these
Xavier
Drake

the rest are not very good no matter the record.

boise/utah/st louis
SMU Memphs Ole Miss

If MSU splits with Mich they are in.. If they lose twice they better win 2 in the

If this is the bubble.. right now I would rank them for all season and how they are playing now

UL
GT
Rutgers
Syracuse
MSU
VCU
SH
Duke


CUT LINE these
Xavier
Drake

the rest are not very good no matter the record.

boise/utah/st louis
SMU Memphs Ole Miss

If MSU splits with Mich they are in.. If they lose twice they better win 2 in the B10 to be back in the discussion.

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How exactly is Duke ahead of us on the Bubble ? That does not make any sense to me. Is it their 1 point win over Virginia. They are barely over .500

 

[upperdeck]

for all the ups and downs and bad losses we didnt have a bad stretch of play like Duke who if they lose to UNC will have 3 three game losing streaks. That UVA win is doing it for them. I dont see how Duke or MSU is in any discussion at .500 or close to it no matter the big wins.. Crazy yr to reward .500 teams with so many way above it.