The Chancellor Hire Will Determine Our Fate

[oldpinepoint]

Schools that have a very good athletic culture, especially in football and basketball usually have higher application rate. It definitely matters. Syracuse needs all the help it can get, it’s a private school, expensive and there is much better value out there academically. Northeast enrollment cliff is a real thing that will negatively impact its ability to attract students. The next chancellor will have a lot on his or her plate that they will
Need to navigate.

 

[Cusefan0307]

Schools that have a very good athletic culture, especially in football and basketball usually have higher application rate. It definitely matters. Syracuse needs all the help it can get, it’s a private school, expensive and there is much better value out there academically. Northeast enrollment cliff is a real thing that will negatively impact its ability to attract students. The next chancellor will have a lot on his or her plate that they will
Need to navigate.

Not just NE. Spot on everywhere post financial crisis.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Not just NE. Spot on everywhere post financial crisis.

True but it’s most impactful in the northeast due to large number of colleges.

 

[Cusefan95]

I don’t know a single
Kid - myself included - who chose a school because of the athletics (unless the kid was a recruit).

High level sports teams is nice to add to the college experience.
But not very Influential
In the initial decision.

It may add to a school’s national profile and help get Kids to notice
and check out the school.
But athletics alone Means
Very little.

It absolutely was a factor for me. One of probably a dozen and not #1 - but it was on list. So if you’re saying nobody chooses a school for athletics alone - sure, that’s likely true. I don’t know anyone who makes a major life decision on one and only one factor. If you’re saying it has no impact on how many students apply and the caliber of those students - there’s plenty of data out there which disproves that position. It means enough that schools notice.

I remember my brother telling me there were “anti-sportsball” professors at Binghamton who were upset going to D1 had a noticeable impact on their application pool in 2001, and were terrified going to the NCAAs in 2009 would result in another boost. Some of the “scandal” which imploded the program was those professors using things that happen everywhere to sabatoge and destroy something they viewed as a threat to their worldview. There’s a reason Dempsey had a 0.268 winning percentage and lasted 9 years, and basically left of his own accord to semi-retire and coach at SCCHS. Those professors are mostly still there - and the culture absolutely is. I suspect they would all say athletics success has no impact on applications - and since you can prove just about anything with statistics they can probably make a case for it some people would believe. But deep down, even they know it’s not true.

 

[rrlbees]

Somebody did a survey, it may have been SU or SU at least referenced it, and it showed that athletic programs do play a role and can impact applications. I might be misremembering but I think a couple years ago that survey was talked about here. I think Kent has even referenced how athletic programs can have a positive influence. It's why he's supportive of the athletic teams.

 

[oldpinepoint]

Somebody did a survey, it may have been SU or SU at least referenced it, and it showed that athletic programs do play a role and can impact applications. I might be misremembering but I think a couple years ago that survey was talked about here. I think Kent has even referenced how athletic programs can have a positive influence. It's why he's supportive of the athletic teams.

I think this is the study

https://surface.syr.edu/cgi/viewcon...ound that a,average SAT scores for applicants.

 

[rrlbees]

I think this is the study

https://surface.syr.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1398&context=honors_capstone#:~:text=The study found that a,average SAT scores for applicants.

good find but i thought it was more recent. but maybe not.