The Cisco, Trill, Iffy Draft Watch Thread

[007]

All three projected to be drafted per below.

Melifonwu projected as 2nd-round pick in NFL mock draft

The Syracuse cornerback declared early for the NFL draft.

www.syracuse.com

Interesting! I think Dane Brugler is one of the best talent evaluators in the business. Mike Renner of PFF is also excellent. Renner's take on Cisco was that he was one of the most "roller coaster" players he has ever evaluated. "Cisco has never seen a double move that he didn't think was a single move."

 

[Trueblue25]

The duration of the season that Iffy and GW prevented allowing a single score on their coverage is truly all the more remarkable when you consider how often our defense was on the field because of our offense

 

[orangeinohio]

Cisco has always been a muscular guy but he appears to have turned it up a notch.

 

[Trueblue25]

Trill got his invite to the Combine

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Trueblue25]

Trill is going to destroy the combine.

 

[sufandu]

Trill is going to destroy the combine.

If he does that, I don't think any team will want him.

 

[UpstateSM]

Trill is going to destroy the combine.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he finds a way into the first couple of rounds.

All-pro ceiling in the right system

 

[Libero2]

Cisco has always been a muscular guy but he appears to have turned it up a notch.View attachment 195570

I’m always amazed by what happens to these guys after combine training.

maybe we could just institute whatever these guys do before they leave.

 

[sufandu]

I wouldn’t be surprised if he finds a way into the first couple of rounds.

All-pro ceiling in the right system

It'll be interesting. The NFL doesn't draft on potential, at least in the early rounds, as much as the NBA, and, because of the way he was used his first two years and the injury this year, his overall production isn't that great, despite making timely big plays and flashing talent. The risk:reward ratio for early picks in the NFL seems to be different than the NBA. There are always a few guys that do well at the combine and shoot up the boards for some teams though.

 

[Cusefan69]

Pro football networks mock draft has Mel going 26 to Cleveland. Impressive. He is turning heads. Way to represent Cuse.

 

[syrBossHogg]

 

[UpstateSM]

In two seasons lol

 

[syrBossHogg]

 

[SouthernCuse]

Cisco dropped to high 2nd round at Walter football

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[DMDMD]

Hard to say Trill should have come back for another year if he's graded as a 3rd/4th round pick this year.

 

[sufandu]

Hard to say Trill should have come back for another year if he's graded as a 3rd/4th round pick this year.

Not if it would've moved him up a round with a full season of tape. I don't know the money difference but it's probably significant.

 

[Trueblue25]

Hard to say Trill should have come back for another year if he's graded as a 3rd/4th round pick this year.

Agreed. What I take from that is Trill’s got huge physical upside and raw skill. Potentially could’ve become a day 1 2022 rounder with more production.

IMO he made the right decision

 

[721Comstock]

Not if would've moved up a round with a full season of tape. I don't know the money difference but it's probably significant.

... UNLESS he gets injured again, in which case, not so much.

Short of playing lights out for the entirety of next season, such that he'd move up to Round 1 (super highly unlikely, and also, because: Syracuse), it's more about getting your shot at the next level, and then making the most of it once there.

I can't blame him or any of these guys for jumping now.
All 3 will likely be hearing their names called, and that's what they have dreamed up since they were little kids playing Pop Warner.

 

[baggerbob]

Agreed. What I take from that is Trill’s got huge physical upside and raw skill. Potentially could’ve become a day 1 2022 rounder with more production.

IMO he made the right decision

If he gets drafted, and makes a team, is able to play a few years it's a good decision. The money he makes, with the contacts he will make he can be set for life.

 

[DMDMD]

Not if would've moved up a round with a full season of tape. I don't know the money difference but it's probably significant.

I think the rookie wage scale fairly well minimizes this unless you are in the first round (guaranteed money and 5th year option) or maybe the top half of the 2nd. I don't think the difference is enough to justify another year (and injury risk) of playing for free. The overarching goal of the players really should be to get to their "2nd deal" as young and as soon as possible, since that's really where the money is.

for instance, just pulling middle of the round safties from the 2020 draft (just quickly grabbed, no science here 2020 NFL Draft Tracker)

Round Pick Contract years Total Value signing bonus

2

45

TB

Antoine Winfield Jr.

S

21

Minnesota

4

$7,307,182

$2,874,316

3

85

INDfrom PHI via DET

Julian Blackmon

S

21

Utah

4

$4,628,848

$926,436

4

134

ATLfrom BAL

Jaylinn Hawkins

S

22

California

4

$3,961,916

$666,916

5

157

JACfrom ATL via BAL

Daniel Thomas

S

21

Auburn

4

$3,612,116

$317,116

So, is 4 years $7.3 mill with $2.9 mill guaranteed better than 4 years $3.9 mil with $666k guaranteed? Absolutely. If you were guaranteed that progression, you'd probably take it, even if it meant playing 1 more year for free and reaching your 2nd contract 1 year older. Is going 5th to 4th or even 3rd round so big that you would risk injury playing for free and reaching your second contract later? I'm not convinced.

 

[orangepassion]

Not if would've moved up a round with a full season of tape. I don't know the money difference but it's probably significant.

Almost as important as the money difference is the higher you are drafted, the more invested the team is in you and you making the team

 

[Chip]

Agreed. What I take from that is Trill’s got huge physical upside and raw skill. Potentially could’ve become a day 1 2022 rounder with more production.

IMO he made the right decision

“It’s all a gamble when it’s just a game”

- Axl Rose