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The Commission on College Basketball will share its recommendations Wednesday, April 25

Refund the cost of attendance? Many of these kids come from situations where they wouldn't be able to attend college period if not for an athletic scholarship. If you want to torpedo college basketball, a requirement like that is exactly how you do it. What's so hard about the Olympic model? Those who can command compensation for their likeness will receive it. Those who can not, will not.
That opens the door wide for big donors to create attractive markets for Duke, UNC, KU, etc.
If I were a billionaire I'd gladly pay an SU athlete $100,000 for his autograph in a free market - it would be my civic duty!
 
On a more serious note, the only thing in their recommendations that I think would make a meaningful difference is adopting draconian penalties for coaches. I would expand that to ADs as well. I get that there shouldn't be lifetime bans for a coach when a player gets a free meal or whatever. But when a guy like Bruce Pearl is allowed back in the game... when Rick Pitino can be interviewing for jobs this spring... it's insanity. Set a high threshold, adjudicate it with third parties with substantial legal bonafides, and harshly punish the coaches and ADs who knowingly tolerate meaningful rules violations. I bet you'd see things get cleaned up pretty quick if coaches and ADs knew they'd be banned for life.
Let's not even stop at AD's. Make the schools responsible for their whole programs. Then they wouldn't turn a blind eye when the turnstiles are humming. Would Nancy or Kent be willing to gamble on having an ineligible player suddenly be reinstated because he got motivated to write a paper overnight? I don't think so.
 
So what, that's the risk they take for not honoring the more than one year commitment. It won't hurt the game at all because it only affects a select few who are truly one and doners. The college game doesn't need them a bit, it will survive. If the kid breaks his commitment, and gets to the NBA the following year, he'll have the means to pay it back. If the players stay the minimal two year period (an example) they have nothing to worry about from a financial standpoint, relative to the refund, etc.

Again, these one and doners have absolutely zero interest in college, especially once they have cleared the 2nd semester eligibility requirement. If they want to go pro right out of high school, go to the G league or overseas...it'll at least put the onus on the NBAPA to act more swiftly, if they act at all.

I'm okay with their likeness model, or a percentage of it, etc. If they want to benefit from their likeness, shirts, jerseys, etc., they should have some skin involved in the overhead, etc. to produce it.
You keep saying "select few". ESPN reported this morning over 160 underclassman have entered the draft this year. There was in the neighborhood of over 60 last year. That is not "select few" Sure not all were OAD., but it is not just 5 or 10 0r even 15 kids. Its way more. Bet that most believe that they will be in the league in two years. Even if the NBA/NBAPA don't want to adopt different rules. the NCAA can do things like allow undrafted kids to return to school if they choose. Eliminating freshman eligibility tells the kids choose now before school or loose a year of meaningful play. Won't stop the new OAD leaving after soph year but just maybe changes the dynamics.
 
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NCAA college basketball panel calls for end to one-and-done and other changes

Updated April 25, 2018 at 8:21 AM; Posted April 25, 2018 at 8:10 AM



In this March 29, 2018, file photo, NCAA President Mark Emmert speaks during a news conference at the Final Four NCAA college basketball tournament in San Antonio.
In this March 29, 2018, file photo, NCAA President Mark Emmert speaks during a news conference at the Final Four NCAA college basketball tournament in San Antonio.(David J. Phillip | The Associated Press)

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By The Associated Press




Indianapolis -- The Commission on College Basketball sharply directed the NCAA to take control of the sport, calling for sweeping reforms to minimize one-and-done, permit players to return to school after going undrafted by the NBA and ban cheating coaches for life.

The independent commission, led by former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, released a detailed 60-page report Wednesday, seven months after the group was formed by the NCAA in response to a federal corruption investigation that rocked college basketball. Ten people, including some assistant coaches, have been charged in a bribery and kickback scheme , and high-profile programs such as Arizona, Louisville and Kansas have been tied to possible NCAA violations.

"The members of this commission come from a wide variety of backgrounds but the one thing that they share in common is that they believe the college basketball enterprise is worth saving," Rice told the AP. "We believe there's a lot of work to do in that regard. That the state of the game is not very strong.

"We had to be bold in our recommendations."

The Associated Press obtained a copy of the report ahead of Rice presenting its findings to top NCAA officials. It's not yet clear how the governing body would pay for some of the proposals, and some of the panel's key recommendations would require cooperation from the NBA, its players union and USA Basketball.

The commission offered harsh assessments of toothless NCAA enforcement, as well as the shady summer basketball circuit that includes AAU leagues and brings together agents, apparel companies and coaches looking to profit on teenage prodigies. It called the environment surrounding college basketball "a toxic mix of perverse incentives to cheat," and said responsibility for the current mess goes all the way up to university presidents.

The group recommended the NCAA have more involvement with players before they get to college and less involvement with enforcement. It also acknowledged the NCAA will need help to make some changes and defended its amateurism model, saying paying players a salary isn't the answer.

"The goal should not be to turn college basketball into another professional league," the commission wrote in its report.

Rice was scheduled to present the commission's report to the NCAA's Board of Governors and Division I Board of Directors on Wednesday morning. The two groups of university presidents planned to meet after Rice's presentation to consider adopting the commission's recommendations. If adopted, the hard work of turning the recommendations into NCAA legislation begins.

NCAA President Mark Emmert has said he wants reforms in place by August. The commission does, too. And it wants to review the NCAA's plans for implementation before it goes before the boards for approval.

The 12-member commission made up of college administrators and former coaches and players was tasked with finding ways to reform five areas: NBA draft rules, including the league's age limit that has led to so-called one-and-done players; the relationship between players and agents; non-scholastic basketball, such as AAU, meant to raise the profile of recruits; involvement of apparel companies with players, coaches and schools; and NCAA enforcement.

NCAA officials mostly stayed out of the process. Emmert and Georgia Tech President Bud Peterson were part of the commission, but not included in executive sessions, when proposals were being formed. The commission spent 70 percent of its time in executive session, Rice said, and kept its work secret until Wednesday's reveal.

The overarching message to those in college athletics: Take responsibility for problems you have created.

ONE-AND-DONE

The commission emphasized the need for elite players to have more options when choosing between college and professional basketball, and to separate the two tracks.

The commission called for the NBA and its players association to change rules requiring players to be at least 19 years old and a year removed from graduating high school to be draft eligible. The rule was implemented in 2006, despite the success of straight-from-high-school stars such as LeBron James, Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett. The commission did, however, say if the NBA and NBPA refuse to change their rules in time for the next basketball season, it would reconvene and consider other options for the NCAA, such as making freshmen ineligible or locking a scholarship for three or four years if the recipient leaves a program after a single year.

"One-and-done has to go one way or another," Rice told the AP, expressing hope the NBA would act.

The commission decided against attempting to mirror rules for baseball but said it could reconsider. Major League Baseball drafts players out of high school, but once an athlete goes to college he is not eligible to be drafted until after his third year. Baseball players can also return for their senior seasons after being drafted as long as they do not sign professional contracts.

The commission did take a piece of the baseball model and recommended basketball players be allowed to test the professional market in high school or after any college season, while still maintaining college eligibility. If undrafted, a college player would remain eligible as long as he requests an evaluation from the NBA and returns to the same school. Players could still leave college for professional careers after one year, but the rules would not compel them to do so.

ENFORCEMENT

The commission recommended harsher penalties for rule-breakers and that the NCAA outsource the investigation and adjudication of the most serious infractions cases. Level I violations would be punishable with up to a five-year postseason ban and the forfeiture of all postseason revenue for the time of the ban. That could be worth tens of millions to major conference schools. By comparison, recent Level I infractions cases involving Louisville and Syracuse basketball resulted in postseason bans of one year.

In those cases, then-Louisville coach Rick Pitino, who was later fired after being tied to the FBI investigation, received a five-game NCAA suspension for violations related to an assistant coach hiring strippers for recruits, and Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim was suspended for nine games for academic misconduct and extra benefits violations. The commission said suspensions should be longer, up to one full season.

Instead of show cause orders, which are meant to limit a coach's ability to work in college sports after breaking NCAA rules, the report called for lifetime bans. The commission also said coaches and administrators should be contractually obligated comply with NCAA investigations.

AGENTS

The commission proposed the NCAA create a program for certifying agents, and make them accessible to players from high school through their college careers.

AAU AND SUMMER LEAGUES

The NCAA, with support from the NBA and USA Basketball, should run its own recruiting events for prospects during the summer, the commission said, and take a more serious approach to certifying events it does not control.

The NCAA should require greater transparency of the finances of what it called non-scholastic basketball events and ban its coaches from attending those that do not comply with more stringent vetting, the report said. Such a ban could wipe out AAU events that have flourished in showcasing future talent.

APPAREL COMPANIES

The commission also called for greater financial transparency from shoe and apparel companies such as Nike, Under Armour and Adidas. These companies have extensive financial relationships with colleges and coaches worth hundreds of millions of dollars, and Adidas had two former executives charged by federal prosecutors in New York in the corruption case.

The commission also called out university presidents, saying administrators can't be allowed to turn a blind eye to infractions.

To that end, the commission said university presidents should be required to "certify annually that they have conducted due diligence and that their athletic programs comply with NCAA rules."

The commission recommended the NCAA Board of Governors, currently comprised of 16 university presidents and chancellors, include five public members with full voting privileges who are not currently employed as university leaders.

Finally, the commission admonished those within college sports who use the NCAA as a scapegoat for the problems in basketball, saying universities and individuals are accountable for keeping the game clean.

"When those institutions and those responsible for leading them short-circuit rules, ethics and norms in order to achieve on-court success, they alone are responsible," the commission wrote. "Too often, these individuals hide behind the NCAA when they are the ones most responsible for the degraded state of intercollegiate athletics, in general, and college basketball in particular."
 
just change the rule so that if you sign a kid the scholie is done for 2 or 3 yrs unless he transfers. You can still sign the 1ndone but you pay for it on the back end.. schools will start to look for kids who want to go to college and the other schools who just live by the high end kids will have to rethink it. .

schools will have room for 1 or 2 kids not 4 or 5.. spread out the wealth even more
 
I still don't understand why so much of the focus is on 1-and-done players. Remove them entirely from the equation and you'll still have schools finding a way to have recruits steered to them. The corruption on that front is in acquiring better talent relative to your peers, and winning, so you make more money from attendance, consumer products and TV.

I mean, Conrad McRae stayed for 4 years and we ended up on probation in 1992.
 
Do we expect coaches to pay back their salary if they quit? Why should kids who see a chance to impact their earning potential? We don't do this to non-revenue sports or the general student population, but revenue generators who are mostly Black are held to rules that no one else across the NCAA is.

The coaches have a contract they legally need to abide by. If they quit, and the contract doesn't have a causation type clause in it relative to specific terms/circumstances that may arise or are reasonably foreseeable, then there isn't a legal obligation. There are reasons contracts have bye out clauses, etc., at least the well written ones.

The player on full scholarship is given a generous gift, a gift of a lifetime one could certainly argue depending upon perspective. And, if he/she chooses to accept it and sign a legal/binding contract, then they are bound legally by the terms and conditions of it. If they don't like the terms, they don't need to sign it (no one is forcing them) and they can freely choose an option that they feel may be better suited for their wants, desires and needs. They have 100% free will to be a "revenue generator" for themselves by deciding to go pro in lieu of college as long if they truly have the ability/talent.

Race is a convenient attempt to deflect vs. focusing on the substance of the debate. As with most things, certainly in all negotiations, the one/entity with the most leverage, whether it's from a legal standpoint or public perception/opinion, always has the upper hand.
 
just change the rule so that if you sign a kid the scholie is done for 2 or 3 yrs unless he transfers.
That won’t stop desperate coaches and it won’t stop coaches who are ready to bolt after 2-3 years. It’s a delayed penalty and I could see a lot of abuse.
 
The only true fix resides with the NBA. It could as simple as the following.
Players have the option of becoming professional after HS with a minimum age limit of 18. Call that First Window. If not selected they can enter college.
At this point the NCAA regains control.
Players who do not turn professional after HS/minimum age. Have to wait until the " Second" Window.
This would begin after the completion of the players sophomore year of college and or a minimum age of x.

By creating 2 windows of eligibility the NBA would create a foundation that the NCAA should be able to work with.
 
The only true fix resides with the NBA. It could as simple as the following.
Players have the option of becoming professional after HS with a minimum age limit of 18. Call that First Window. If not selected they can enter college.
At this point the NCAA regains control.
Players who do not turn professional after HS/minimum age. Have to wait until the " Second" Window.
This would begin after the completion of the players sophomore year of college and or a minimum age of x.

By creating 2 windows of eligibility the NBA would create a foundation that the NCAA should be able to work with.
That's the baseball model. If I'm interpreting it correctly, the second window begins at age 21, which is usually toward the end of most players' junior year.
 
TL;DR - the commission attributes all problems in college hoops to external sources, and recommends punting on any proactive action on their own behalf

Color me shocked.

What a waste of an opportunity.

At this point I'm actively rooting for the NBA to go for the throat.
 
TL;DR - the commission attributes all problems in college hoops to external sources, and recommends punting on any proactive action on their own behalf

Color me shocked.

What a waste of an opportunity.

At this point I'm actively rooting for the NBA to go for the throat.
This commission was literally the most NCAA thing ever done by the NCAA
 
The coaches have a contract they legally need to abide by. If they quit, and the contract doesn't have a causation type clause in it relative to specific terms/circumstances that may arise or are reasonably foreseeable, then there isn't a legal obligation. There are reasons contracts have bye out clauses, etc., at least the well written ones.

The player on full scholarship is given a generous gift, a gift of a lifetime one could certainly argue depending upon perspective. And, if he/she chooses to accept it and sign a legal/binding contract, then they are bound legally by the terms and conditions of it. If they don't like the terms, they don't need to sign it (no one is forcing them) and they can freely choose an option that they feel may be better suited for their wants, desires and needs. They have 100% free will to be a "revenue generator" for themselves by deciding to go pro in lieu of college as long if they truly have the ability/talent.

Race is a convenient attempt to deflect vs. focusing on the substance of the debate. As with most things, certainly in all negotiations, the one/entity with the most leverage, whether it's from a legal standpoint or public perception/opinion, always has the upper hand.
But the people with the upper hand (NCAA/schools) have it due to an anti-free market cartel.
Like any governing body, it's morphed from good intentions to self-protection and enrichment.
 
TL;DR - the commission attributes all problems in college hoops to external sources, and recommends punting on any proactive action on their own behalf

Color me shocked.

What a waste of an opportunity.

At this point I'm actively rooting for the NBA to go for the throat.
Time to go the academy route.
 
This isn’t just a college basketball issue. Football is worse.
 

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