ACC is improving but is 4th right now IMO. The conference needs Miami, Virginia Tech, North Carolina to become consistent top 25 teams. With those teams along with Florida State, Clemson, Louisville,Georgia Tech then the conference can catch the SEC.
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I get it. So Alabama and Florida won those multiple NCs because of SEC bias that had them overrated in the initial polls. ooo-kay.
The ACC has plenty of potential. Many of their squads have tasted glory in the past. VaTech, the U, Clemson. The problem is that these teams have lost "market share" in terms of recruits to that "other" conference down in the south.
FSU has caught and passed UF
UL is better than UK
Clemson won a BCS bowl last year which USC has never done. Clemson can catch and pass USC.
Georgia Tech will never catch UGA in GA. They can win though.
VPI needs a new coach. Beamer is losing it
Miami is young and Should be back real soon.
UNC needs to develop a defense. Next year there opener against South Carolina in Charlotte will be huge.
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The fact that teams only play 3-4 OOC games obviously makes any ironclad declaration about superiority impossible to prove. But people are taking this to ridiculous level.
This year, yes, the Pac-12 was very good, and they schedule ambitiously, especially USC and UCLA. And a reasonable case could be made that they were as good or better than the SEC. I tend to believe that the PAC-12 has "choked", for lack of a better word, too often for me to really believe in them as a collective unit.
Given the scarcity of games, there's no way to avoid an "eye test" element. NO WAY. In my view, the differences are analogous to high school recruiting. The SEC, on the whole, is like the 5 star athlete, and the other conference are like the 4 star athlete. Of course, the 4 star is going to win a fair share of the time, but over time, the cream always rises. This year is just a dip. But the SEC plays a noticeably different game I believe.
This year, yes, the Pac-12 was very good, and they schedule ambitiously, especially USC and UCLA. And a reasonable case could be made that they were as good or better than the SEC. I tend to believe that the PAC-12 has "choked", for lack of a better word, too often for me to really believe in them as a collective unit.
Given the scarcity of games, there's no way to avoid an "eye test" element. NO WAY. In my view, the differences are analogous to high school recruiting. The SEC, on the whole, is like the 5 star athlete, and the other conference are like the 4 star athlete. Of course, the 4 star is going to win a fair share of the time, but over time, the cream always rises. This year is just a dip. But the SEC plays a noticeably different game I believe.
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PoppyHart said:
When you play tough games, you lose some. That's not choking - that's challenging yourself.
I agree on the eye test. The SEC may very well be the best. But we can't know that until the end of the season. And that's a shame. They are gaming the system and its not good for the sports health.
I'd love to see an 8 team playoff, with conference champions getting an auto bid. Pushes the bias back to the at large bids and the seeding process. Less power in the hands of old people and more in the hands of the student athletes.
See SEC excuse #1 in handbook. Exactly what I posted in a thread regarding this subject of why a team from the SEC loses a bowl game, textbook.
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They actually were in 2013... you know, head to head... in the Swamp.
I agree with everything you say and particularly your first sentence. WAYYY too much focus on whether the #2 team in Conference A won a home game against the #12 team in Conference B. Absolutely no context at all. Last week two weak SEC East teams took two of the strongest ACC teams to the wire on the road and all you could read here is how the ACC went 4-0.
It happens so rarely there must be an excuse.
Like when Utah beat Alabama.
Was that b4 or after Alabama's 3rd NC in the last several years?
You go girl.
Haters gonna hate. Keep at it Bob if it makes you feel better.
I don't hate at all and think the SEC is a very strong football conference. I just find the fanboys annoying and claims of this is the greatest or that quite foolish and just sets in an either positive or negative mindset according to the agenda. I enjoy watching the games and seeing them unfold but when things get manipulated to skew the results, well...it just takes the true sport out of it.
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Would love to see Alabama lose if and only if the committee has the stones to leave the SEC out of the playoff.
I still can't believe Alabama was permitted to play for the title after they lost to LSU at home, beat nobody good after that, and did not make their conference championship. Good on them for pulling it together for that last game, but they shouldn't have ever even gotten that chance.
I still can't believe Alabama was permitted to play for the title after they lost to LSU at home, beat nobody good after that, and did not make their conference championship. Good on them for pulling it together for that last game, but they shouldn't have ever even gotten that chance.
I have no idea what you are talking about with manipulation. Why am I a fanboy? Cause I take the opposite view on your SEC hatred?
I don't see Bama in after a loss today. No way.
Not sure about that. Bama lost one game that year to undefeated LSU in OT by three points. They gave up more than 14 points in just one game in the SEC that year and shut the #1 team out in the NC game 21-0. Bama was obviously the best team in the country and would have been favored by at least a TD over OkSt. That team has probably 15+ that are still playing in the NFL.
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And the year after that lost a home game to Texas A&M and barely dropped in the rankings
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I do. Bama was allowed to lose one game and still play for the title in the old 2 team playoff (BCS). They will be the only team allowed to lose twice and still get into the 4 game playoff.
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Leading up to that LSU game, there were two powers. They hosted the other power at home, lost, and then played a crappy schedule after that, and did not play in their conference championship. But people decided they were better ahead of time, and they were given another chance to play on a neutral field the team that they already lost to. Again, at home. They had their chance, failed, and were given another one, not on merit, but simply because people said they're better.
