The Dome was empty...again. Where are the fans?

[Blanko97]

Duke has blown a 17 point second half lead and just tied it with a Boozer free throw. Texas Tech on the foul line with 3.4 left with two foul shots. Stuff happens.

are you comparing blowing a 17 point lead against Texas Tech to blowing it against northeastern?

 

[Blanko97]

Kids day games for women’s basketball happen all over the country. It’s a thing.

Cut prices that much too often and then you’re gouging season ticket purchasers. And next year, you won’t have as many because they’ll say to themselves “why should I pay for season tickets when you’re going to discount them to $5 per game anyway?”.

This is right, you can’t cut prices to bare minimum and then expect season ticket holders to not be pissed. You need a price floor on first party purchases to ensure you don’t devalue the product. We all know the level of play also devalues the product but if you start selling tickets at 5 bucks a pop, that’s what people will come to expect

 

[Scooch]

I am sure this will be an unpopular opinion.
But WTH!

Our team is 8-4.
We lost in overtime to Houston, to Kansas the next day by 11, and then were blown out the very next day by Iowa State who is currently #4 in the country. All 3 are ranked.
3 huge games back to back to back.

We lost by a point to Hofstra at a game where three huge calls in the last minute sealed our fate. They aren’t that bad of a team either, quad 3.

We beat Tenn, quad 1 and 7 other teams along the way.
We have done this despite our best player Freeman only playing the first 4 games.

Our defense, for the most part, is exponentially better than last year.

Yet all I have read on this board in multiple threads for two weeks is how bad our team is, how Red is an awful coach, how the players don’t play for him, how the fans haven’t shown up because we stink, how Red should be fired.

No recognition of the obvious improvement in this team over last year.

Listen I was one of the many who wanted Red gone last year but I recognize the improvement and say let’s get thru January before we call for his head.

As to attendance, I am both a football and basketball season ticket holder and have either gone to each bball game or made sure my tickets were used if I could not go.

I was at Hofstra, Mercyhurst and Northeastern and the crowds were low at all 3.
As I said before, none of these teams have name recognition. Yet it still costs $35 to park and buying 2 pretzels and 2 sodas cost about $30. Concession costs are atrocious
I go because I am a die hard fan and want to support the team. And I am truly blessed to have the money to afford to go.

But just before Christmas, when money is tight, many need their money for gifts or food or family celebrations and don’t want to spend that kind of money watching no name teams.

As for the team effort the last 3 games, let’s try to remember that these our students who just finished their final exams. I remember what that was like not so long ago, and I wasn't
Playing a active sport at the time. I can only imagine how physically and emotionally tiring these last few weeks have been.
These are human beings, not AI, and they will have ups and downs.

And let’s support them when they succeed.

In this last game, Naithan George and William Kyle stepped up big time. At one point Kyle was 7 of 8 on free throws. He lost his form at the end when he was clearly very tired

Again, I assume I will be blasted as stupid, naive and wearing rose colored glasses for these thoughts

This is a reasonable take, no one should blast it.

My only quibble is that while it's always good to celebrate a win, it's also fair to recognize that this post-Tennessee stretch has been fairly lousy. We gave back all the ground, and more, that we gained with that Tennessee win.

We're going to know much of what we need to about this program by the end of January. 9 ACC games, none against ranked teams. If we're 7-2 or 8-1 in conference play by the time Feb 1st rolls around then we have some hope. If not then it'll be difficult to see a path to the tourney.

 

[powdersmack]

From reading the comments in this thread, why do any of you care what they do? All you do is complain and whine about why you don’t go to the games. Stay home and continue to watch on tv. Please don’t say your fans because you’re really not.

Honestly, when people stop caring is the time to worry. The people "whining and complaining" ARE the few that do still care, as apathy has seemingly overtaken a lot of the past fan base.

Also, blind support doesn't make you a better fan in any way, shape, or form.

 

[SUFan44]

Just do it for these non conference snooze fest games and do it in sections where no one sits. When I say I didn’t see one person sitting in 6 or 7 sections I mean not 1

All I’m saying is, price cutting isn’t creative. In most cases it is counterproductive to the bottom line. Dynamic pricing would make sense, that’s a whole different story.

 

[SUFan44]

This is a reasonable take, no one should blast it.

My only quibble is that while it's always good to celebrate a win, it's also fair to recognize that this post-Tennessee stretch has been fairly lousy. We gave back all the ground, and more, that we gained with that Tennessee win.

We're going to know much of what we need to about this program by the end of January. 9 ACC games, none against ranked teams. If we're 7-2 or 8-1 in conference play by the time Feb 1st rolls around then we have some hope. If not then it'll be difficult to see a path to the tourney.

I’m very confused. I was told we will know who we are after Vegas. We lost all three games.

Now I’m being told we have to wait until the end of January?

Sorry - I don’t need to wait that long. Unless effort and execution can be turned off and on like a switch (it can’t), these last 3 (and really 4 including St. Joe’s) games have been very discouraging.

 

[Scooch]

I’m very confused. I was told we will know who we are after Vegas. We lost all three games.

Now I’m being told we have to wait until the end of January?

Sorry - I don’t need to wait that long. Unless effort and execution can be turned off and on like a switch (it can’t), these last 3 (and really 4 including St. Joe’s) games have been very discouraging.

Do what you want, I'm certainly not telling anyone what to do.

I never bought that we'd *know* after Vegas. Although I do think those 3 games showed us that this team has enough talent to make the tourney.

All I'm suggesting is that all the "fire Red now!" folks (a) are tilting at windmills, and (b) will have more than enough evidence soon enough.

 

[Bulldog04]

All I’m saying is, price cutting isn’t creative. In most cases it is counterproductive to the bottom line. Dynamic pricing would make sense, that’s a whole different story.

And I’m fine with that too. But there was nothing dynamic about the pricing yesterday. To sit anywhere in the lower bowl if you bought a “regular ticket”, the cheapest was $59. Resale tickets were obviously lower. But do partnerships, track sales data during these non conference games to see the trend of what seats are not selling. The themes of the lack of sales will be there and address them and fix them. The crowd affects the play of the team in my mind too so having anyone with a pulse in a seat is more influential than just a seat. An unsold seat makes $0 across the board, so why not get anything for it? I always thought they should do a temperature based pricing model. If it’s under a certain temperature, you get to walk up to the ticket window and get a specialty priced ticket. Reward the people that make the trek there and up the hill with something! There are so many things to do and they choose to do nothing, that’s my issue

 

[orange79]

SyracuseFan.com: Come for the athletic department bashing, stay for the lexicology lessons!

 

[Irishsecra1]

I’m very confused. I was told we will know who we are after Vegas. We lost all three games.

Now I’m being told we have to wait until the end of January?

Sorry - I don’t need to wait that long. Unless effort and execution can be turned off and on like a switch (it can’t), these last 3 (and really 4 including St. Joe’s) games have been very discouraging.

In all fairness, I doubt if anyone thought we had a chance in hell to beat Houston.
And we played fantastic, smothering defense, lost in overtime because we couldn’t make a foul shot.
And we played very well in the Kansas game up until the closing minutes
What I got from those games is we could compete with anyone.
And if we could just be an average foul shooting team and if Freeman could get back healthy, we could win a lot of games in our league.

Nothing that has happened since has changed my opinion

As for Iowa State, I completely discount that game.
They should never have been the third game in a row, Iowa State was pissed at being passed over and took it out on our exhausted team.
And Iowa State has proven to be the best of the three teams we played

 

[tptcuse]

In all fairness, I doubt if anyone thought we had a chance in hell to beat Houston.
And we played fantastic, smothering defense, lost in overtime because we couldn’t make a foul shot.
And we played very well in the Kansas game up until the closing minutes
What I got from those games is we could compete with anyone.
And if we could just be an average foul shooting team and if Freeman could get back healthy, we could win a lot of games in our league.

Nothing that has happened since has changed my opinion

As for Iowa State, I completely discount that game.
They should never have been the third game in a row, Iowa State was pissed at being passed over and took it out on our exhausted team.
And Iowa State has proven to be the best of the three teams we played

The problem has been since the Tennessee game.

 

[IthacaMatt]

If only there was a place where I could go and look up the proper application(s) of a word…

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Yes. But to say "He was bias against us", which so many do, is incorrect.

 

[IthacaMatt]

This is right, you can’t cut prices to bare minimum and then expect season ticket holders to not be pissed. You need a price floor on first party purchases to ensure you don’t devalue the product. We all know the level of play also devalues the product but if you start selling tickets at 5 bucks a pop, that’s what people will come to expect

Doing it for one game as a promotion does not kill, or screw over, season ticket holders.
I first became a hoops fan when I was about 11 or so, and won tickets to see us play an early season game against Penn State, and then to a game against Cornell.

 

[Cusefan0307]

The problem has been since the Tennessee game.

Students being gone hurts. Hofstra ruined all momentum. I went alone yesterday and my wife had other plans and couldn’t find anyone who wanted to go with me hence why I was more active in the game thread yesterday. I will admit I didn’t try very hard.

 

[Irishsecra1]

The problem has been since the Tennessee game.

And human nature being what it is we have played to the level of our competition
Hard to get up for those 4 teams after the Tenn game.

As I said earlier, they have been involved in exams and our team just couldn’t do what
Was necessary. And the other teams treated it as a playoff game
And even with the sub par effort, they would have won all 4 if not for an horrendously officiated final minute of the Hofstra game.

 

[FrancoPizza]

Honestly, when people stop caring is the time to worry. The people "whining and complaining" ARE the few that do still care, as apathy has seemingly overtaken a lot of the past fan base.

Also, blind support doesn't make you a better fan in any way, shape, or form.

Post of the month

 

[Scooch]

Yes. But to say "He was bias against us", which so many do, is incorrect.

Bias has nothing on the constant misuse of dominate. As in “he had a dominate performance against us”

It’s dominANT. You heathens.

 

[Chip]

Bias has nothing on the constant misuse of dominate. As in “he had a dominate performance against us”

It’s dominANT. You heathens.

I could care less is another favorite.

If you could care less then you would care less.

 

[HyattsCuse]

I could care less is another favorite.

If you could care less than you would care less.

You don’t know nothing!

OK… thank you for acknowledging I know things?

Misuse of double negatives makes me cringe. Ironically, when it’s proper like your example, it still gets messed up

 

[tbonezone]

"Bias" is not a verb, folks.

actually it can be used as a noun ,verb, adjective or adverb.

 

[RedtheGOB]

The ACC condensed game was like 10 minutes ha. 48 fouls and 68 free throws. That’s how boring the game was. Free throw shooting contest basically.

 

[tbonezone]

The ACC condensed game was like 10 minutes ha. 48 fouls and 68 free throws. That’s how boring the game was. Free throw shooting contest basically.

frankly i'm not even wasting my time watching the condensed games lately. listened a bit on the radio last night while we my elvy homies finished up working on some toys. guess who's getting coal ?

 

[Scooch]

The ACC condensed game was like 10 minutes ha. 48 fouls and 68 free throws. That’s how boring the game was. Free throw shooting contest basically.

Speaking of… can you imagine the meltdown here if we were on the wrong end of a 31 to 17 foul differential.

Maybe the refs aren’t biasED against us after all.

 

[RedtheGOB]

Speaking of… can you imagine the meltdown here if we were on the wrong end of a 31 to 17 foul differential.

Maybe the refs aren’t biasED against us after all.

For real. Pretty sure that was Northeasterns plan all along to frustrate us. I thought we fouled a ton and still had half as money fouls.

Refs kept blowing them and you could tell in the 2nd half we just got bored and didn’t care.

 

[Dinkyspond]

In all fairness, I doubt if anyone thought we had a chance in hell to beat Houston.
And we played fantastic, smothering defense, lost in overtime because we couldn’t make a foul shot.
And we played very well in the Kansas game up until the closing minutes
What I got from those games is we could compete with anyone.
And if we could just be an average foul shooting team and if Freeman could get back healthy, we could win a lot of games in our league.

Nothing that has happened since has changed my opinion

As for Iowa State, I completely discount that game.
They should never have been the third game in a row, Iowa State was pissed at being passed over and took it out on our exhausted team.
And Iowa State has proven to be the best of the three teams we played

Iowa State was playing its third game in a row too. That excuse doesn't hold up.