Seriously? You are going to lose more than you win in general no matter where you recruit ... however to money's point and I will explain this for the last time it is easier to land a prospect ranked 200th in the state because he is lower on the pecking order than it is to land a top 10 guy in a talent poor state with the same ranking because there is less ground to cover in talent poor states. Which is why ND or Clemson can put minimal effort in NY and take the top players, that is who we are competing with. When it comes to the 200th ranked recruit in FL who is just as skilled we are more than likely competing against peers like Lville. Our odds of victory improve...I'm not sure why you cant get this.
You say "it is easier to land a prospect ranked 200th in the state because he is lower on the pecking order than it is to land a top 10 guy in a talent poor state with the same ranking because there is less ground to cover in talent poor states". You go on to say "we are more than likely competing against peers like Lville". But you totally don't address the elephant in the room which is we play FLST, MIA, NC and yes Louisville. So to correct your statement it would be like saying we are going to get players 200+rated to play against MIA, FLST,NC Louisville top 100 players. This is a horribly flawed strategy because those teams get the more talented players EVERY SINGLE year then get to play our lower rated players. Its like those teams get the 1st team all county players while the guys we get to play vs them are hopefully honorable mentions in the same county. Think about it. If I am correct, the direct correlation will be expressed in our record vs those P5 teams. Look at our record. I think generally you agree that it is easier to recruit to your home territory. To hammer this home lets look at the Florida and NE territory in 2018. I picked 2018 because we obviously got our best player from Florida (Cisco) so this should help your argument.
2018 top Florida recruits signed to ACC teams
Clemson- #1 DE Xavier Thomas #1 nationally #36 LB mike jones #210,
Miami- #6 RB Lorenzo Lingard #25 nationally, #13 WR Mark Pope #67, #21 CB Al Blades #97, #25 G DJ Scaife #149, #26 Brian Hightower #154, #29 RB Camron Harris #173, #32 S Gurvan Hall #184, #33 Gilbert Frieson #200, #37 TE Will Mallory #211, #Cleveland Reed #259, #63 DJ Ivey #353, #77 WR D Wiggins464, #79 OT John Campbell 481, #80 WDE Greg Rousseau 485,
NC#10 OT William Barnes #53 nationally, #61 WR Antoine Green #350, #89 OG Ed Montilus 567,
Fl ST #12 CB Assante Samuel jr #60 nationally, #27 Warren Thompson #157,#42 Malcolm Lamar #222, #43 cb Isaiah Bolden #231, #44 OLB Amari Gainer #239, #57DT Dennis Briggs #324, #74 WR Dmarcus Adams #420
Louisville- ILB Robert Hicks #240, #50 S Trenell Troutman #278, #68 Marcus Riley #383, #69 CB Chandler Jones #385,
VT- S Chamarri Conner #317
Pitt- #83 WR Shocky Jacques Loius 531
GT- #87 DT TK Chimedza #558
Syracuse- #101 Cameron Jonas 653, #137 Andre Cisco 929
Florida is obviously the "TERRITORY" of FLST and Miami. So as you would expect they both do well with 14 and 7 top 100 in state prospects respectively. But Florida is also SEC territory with 30 of the top 100 signing to SEC. These two facts coupled with the status of Florida being a hotbed makes it highly competitive and puts us in a poor position to win top talent from Florida. This is expressed in our best year of 2018. Interestingly a MAC school Toledo had two top 100 recruits 92,95 higher than our guys (MAC Strategy) and PN ST (NE focuse)had 1(more on them in a minute) #60. We hit a home run with Cisco and with all due respect the other guys from Florida from the 17, and 18 class haven't done anything. So they were backups at best NOT high end talent better than our local recruits. Those local recruits from "OUR TERRITORY" (NY, PA, NJ,MD,MA,CT,CAN) included 11 of the top 100 overall and 3 of top 10 overall players in the country. This was HCDB best class BECAUSE of the prospects from "OUR Territory" Trill, Q White Taj etc. In fact the NY NJ players we have are higher on the depth chart than the players from Florida atleast in the 1st two classes when you add Devito (NJ) Iffy (MA) Coley (NY) Richards (CAN) So after the 2018 season and recruiting class I thought we would really focus on competing in the NE vs Penn ST for those top 100 prospect. Its our territory, we have more selling points and by in large less competition. You dont have to be a genius to see its easier to position yourself as the other guy besides PNST in the NE than the 30th best team/option recruiting in the SEC territory of South Florida. How does that pitch go "hey your top 29 choices passed you up but we are here for you. Its cold, you will be far from home with no beaches but come on up". We see how that has worked we have a bunch of backups and 1 stud from Florida. I thought HCDB was going to embrace this NE strategy after 2018. Imagine if we focused more heavily on NYC like Penn ST does.
And about Penn ST. Imagine if we had folks doing 12 face to faces with a player like Adessa Issac. We cant, we dont have the State college bankroll as a small private school but that is even more reason to focus and consolidate all of our time, money and other resources on the NE. Penn ST has 3 recruiters focusing on the NE and we have a "Florida strategy". Even though Penn St has much more going for it from a sales perspective they focus on the NE NOT FLA just like we should do. Lets look at them in 2018
5 Star Micah Parsons PA
5 Star Justin Shorter NJ
5 Star Ricky Slade
12 other 4 stars FROM THE EXACT SAME territory (add VA) that I am saying we should focus on. And BTW they did answer the phone on that kid from Florida Jordan Miner #60 Florida #356 overall. He actually is ranked higher than any player HCDB has ever recruited in his entire head coaching career not named Tommy Devito. He was the 15th best player in that class. So much high end talent in the NE that he is a throw in player. He would have been our 2nd highest recruit under HCDB ever. The other throw in kid from Florida was Judge Culpepper. You guys know the story there smh. How can it be true that a school like Penn ST can focus on the NE and pull in so much talent, but the NE can have so little talent that Syracuse has to look for scraps 1300 miles away???????" So much talent in the NE that the Florida players are "filler recruits" (17-25 in class) for Penn ST. And thats before I even adress the 5 stars that ND Clemson and Ala cherry pick from the Northeast. Look those up.
Can you imagine if we focused all our efforts and just took 3 of Penn St's recruits from the NE Not even the top 5 stars but NE prospects number 14,15,16 that the sign. Those NE prospects would be amongst the best players we sign under HCDB. And what would we be missing, again all Florida players not named Cisco are on the bench anyways. Now we can still take the flyer on a Florida kid just like Penn St or anybody else does and lets pray he turns out to be Cisco. But why not focus on the 60 or so higher end guys in "territory" that can see the field immediately for us in our local territory.
As a salesperson if I am going after two prospects with the same payoff. I would rather be in a 1 on 1 in my home turf that allows me to maximize my pros thus limiting my cons with a lower acquisition cost (amount of resources used to get deal)than being out of area vs 30 other competitors that are better positioned with a higher acquisition cost. The NE strategy allows us to do that.
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