The only way to be in on Autry for 25-26 season

[orangenauburn]

School better pray Fran runs it back again this year with that schedule and still hits 8 or 9 wins, because the revenue being lost from hoops has to be off set somehow.

 

[orangenauburn]

One other thing I’ll say is that there is one man in our program that I will follow without question and do what he asks. If he says the sky isn’t blue or the sun isn’t hot next year I’ll believe him. This coming from someone that was a student on campus for the best few years of hoops we ever had from 2001-2005.

That’s Carmelo Anthony. If he says this is the deal and this is what I need. He’ll get it from me no questions asked.

Not Kiyan, not Boeheim, not Autry for sure or Wildhack. In my book Melo can do no wrong ever and the more he gets involved next year the better.

They need JB and Melo to corral $10m in NIL money a year for the next three years

And even then I don't trust the current staff to identify and land the right talent out of the portal nor coach them coherently with any sort of system to make a consistent winner of the program

 

[Bulldog04]

The part that stinks is that usually in the past if you had a year like this, it usually means the next year the team is going to be a lot better whether it was the team being too young or something like that, but this needs to be and will be completely different team next year for good reason. But I would always sacrifice a crappy year for 3 really good years. As of a friend of a lot of people to the program and a donor, I know this is a business and you are what your record says you are. I’m really hoping Alex does what him and I have talked about. Red changed his system this year and wanted more low post presence and for the guys to not be outrebounded bc it drove him nuts last year, but last year they won 20 games and his coaching worked. This is where he needs to realize he tried something else and it didn’t work. Alex needs to make him aware of that too with the players that he’s scouting. Red tried his way this year and it didn’t work. End of story

 

[Fly Rodder]

Building back trust” really just means winning and being ranked multiple years in a row. Even then, it’s unlikely Syracuse will fully recover attendance-wise. Too much damage has been done already.

Absolutely. It’s a lot easier to keep a customer than bring them back or bring in a new one.

 

[IthacaMatt]

School better pray Fran runs it back again this year with that schedule and still hits 8 or 9 wins, because the revenue being lost from hoops has to be off set somehow.

It's a brutal schedule with our toughest games literally all on the road.
The goal has to be bowl eligible for next year. The following year we will have a lot of young talent coming into their prime and a more manageable schedule.

 

[Dcuse]

I am out next year.

Not gonna watch.

Will come back when we have a new coach.

Just typing that now feels oddly and refreshingly liberating ...

Bye Bye then.

 

[Red Holzman]

I hear you. I tell myself I can still support the team by watching them on tv instead of coughing up over $4000 for two seats and parking. I have good seats in section 123. It’s hard driving two hours both ways.

2hrs both ways -if attending all home games with that commute you're coughing up a lot more than $4K!

 

[FrancoPizza]

I haven’t watched more than 5 min since new years. That’s something

I haven’t watched more than 30 minutes since lemoyne. It’s just not a rewarding use of my time. Sucks but that’s just the reality when you have a busy life and kids etc.

 

[Zelda Zonk]

This program can’t inspire me to get up for a 9am game anymore. I did watch the entire recording. Kinda laughed at the comeback and conclusion. Fitting. To be up comfortably against an equal record, bad team, and then see it just go away like that…. It just didn’t matter.

This feels like a test. The end of this season will demonstrate how much respect the AD has for its alums and fans. Vs how much respect it has for a spreadsheet. Louisville was very recently a joke and now it’s second in the conference. St John’s is in the top 10. I’m not in the camp of those who believe we can never return to greatness or that it will take a decade. That is only true if we stay the course, practice ”patience,” have faith, and wallow in complacency.

If there’s any respect for US, it will be shown in change. Change at the end of this season, not next or even further into the delusional timeline. But, writing this was just an exercise. Decline was tolerated for too long under JB and that’s our identity now, more than all the successes we have had.

Kids are the future. And we squandered a legacy. Kids don’t own music anymore and they don’t know an era of good Syracuse basketball. A pity.

 

[kingtidge]

2hrs both ways -if attending all home games with that commute you're coughing up a lot more than $4K!

I did that and bought season tix for football for 2 years after they hired Gerg... 2 hrs both ways plus the much longer football games... Did not renew year 3.

 

[kingtidge]

...But Red’s coming back. There’s no reason to pretend otherwise. And I don’t think there’s program is dead forever because of it.

No, but perhaps the horse has just laid down to die

If FAFO is a thing, we are at the FO stage, and it's been a long time coming...

It may be sobering.

 

[Scooch]

No, but perhaps the horse has just laid down to die

If FAFO is a thing, we are at the FO stage...

It may be sobering.

UConn had three losing seasons in a row, not that long ago. It’s college hoops, you can turn things around in one offseason.

If Red can’t do it, someone else will get the chance to try.

I think people are kinda losing it now.

 

[kingtidge]

UConn had three losing seasons in a row, not that long ago. It’s college hoops, you can turn things around in one offseason.

If Red can’t do it, someone else will get the chance to try.

I think people are kinda losing it now.

I think it's because our decision makers have made a lot of bad decisions, repeatedly, in succession.

We have a lost decade+ for a reason.

There's good reason to be skeptical.

 

[Cuseball]

I haven’t watched more than 5 min since new years. That’s something

I keep watching (maybe I have a problem) but I don’t care like I once did. Todays defeat was a complete choke job and in years past I would be feeling sick all day and Sunday. Now I laughed and said this team and coach are horrible and went on with my day. What I have stopped doing is making the effort to travel to Cuse for games and totally given up the thought of going to the ACC tournament. I will also likely not be going to Cuse for games next year. Once the university shows they are committed to winning and serious I can get back in board

 

[Scooch]

I think it's because our decision makers have made a lot of bad decisions, repeatedly, in succession.

We have a lost decade+ for a reason.

There's good reason to be skeptical.

The future seems pretty obvious. Red has to make the Tourney next season or he’s out.

There’s no excuse for how flat footed everyone was with NIL and how terribly this roster was built. Hopefully we’ve fixed that. We’ll see. I have my concerns too.

But I don’t buy that the program is dead and buried if we don’t fire Red in 2 weeks. I think folks are angry and upset about everything.

 

[oldpinepoint]

The future seems pretty obvious. Red has to make the Tourney next season or he’s out.

There’s no excuse for how flat footed everyone was with NIL and how terribly this roster was built. Hopefully we’ve fixed that. We’ll see. I have my concerns too.

But I don’t buy that the program is dead and buried if we don’t fire Red in 2 weeks. I think folks are angry and upset about everything.

I don’t think it’s dead but you are quickly losing the goodwill that has been built over the last 40 years. Just harder to get back that’s all

 

[grepal]

I am out next year.

Not gonna watch.

Will come back when we have a new coach.

Just typing that now feels oddly and refreshingly liberating ...

I predict you will be drawn back in. We are still watching this year. I don't think I have missed five minutes of game action. It has been a big part of Winter for me for 50 years.

 

[kingtidge]

I predict you will be drawn back in. We are still watching this year. I don't think I have missed five minutes of game action. It has been a big part of Winter for me for 50 years.

I certainly hope you're right.

This off-season will be telling.

I saw my first game live the year the dome opened.

I am ready for a sabbatical tho if it's simply stay the course... Have heard enough excuses.

 

[hoopsupstate]

2hrs both ways -if attending all home games with that commute you're coughing up a lot more than $4K!

I know. Gas and dinner, but it get us off the mountain and helping to pass the wnter.

 

[HakAttack]

This is Syracuse basketball. Where is the pride?
Whatever the buyout is you come up with the funds. We are on the edge of a very bad precipice. A point of no return.

On the edge? Brother, we’ve already gone off the cliff. The only question is how far down does the abyss go??

 

[richmondcuse03]

The university is underestimating the apathy that continues to spread. They are making a dangerous assumption that fan support and $ will return whenever they figure this out. What they don’t seem to recognize is that many of these fans have discovered new ways to pass their time during the winter. Sure some fans will eventually return but the ceiling is going to keep lowering the longer this apathy continues.

There are other things to do during a Syracuse winter?!

 

[Grbac]

On the edge? Brother, we’ve already gone off the cliff. The only question is how far down does the abyss go??

I agree with you.

My only point is further damaging our reputation will have us at a point of not returning to national relevance for a long time.
You can only be bad for so long until everyone forgets about you and you become just another basketball team.

The prospects that grew up knowing us as National Champs have long dried up. The kids that looked up to Carmelo will soon go away. All this talk about bringing Red back may send us back to the stone ages.

 

[Cusefan95]

UConn had three losing seasons in a row, not that long ago. It’s college hoops, you can turn things around in one offseason.

If Red can’t do it, someone else will get the chance to try.

I think people are kinda losing it now.

The difference is UConn moved off FAST from Ollie when they decided he wasn’t the answer (although it did cost them). And he had way more success than Red. Syracuse hems and haws after they make a bad decision hoping a miracle happens.

It’s possible to turn things around quickly when you have a completely different approach than Syracuse does. I think you’ve commented Syracuse doesn’t want to run athletics like “pro sports” - and that’s entirely the reason why a return to prominence is unlikely. Everyone else that is winning has moved on to a more professional model. In other words - if Syracuse wasn’t Syracuse, things could turn around quickly. But because they are Syracuse - it’s not going to happen.

 

[Red2003]

UConn had three losing seasons in a row, not that long ago. It’s college hoops, you can turn things around in one offseason.

If Red can’t do it, someone else will get the chance to try.

I think people are kinda losing it now.

Completely agree. Woke up this morning and just thought wow the last 2 ACC teams in the Final 4 over the last 2 years could not even hold their programs together enough to make the ACCT a year or 2 later.

This is now a league where a Final 4 run essentially means every person involved with that program (players, coaches, water boys prob too) are going to get a call and be offered double their NIL or salary to jump somewhere else.

The days of recurring success are no longer there for 99% of programs. Maybe you have a handful of teams out there that will make their case year after year but even those one's will see the same depletion.

 

[Red2003]

The difference is UConn moved off FAST from Ollie when they decided he wasn’t the answer (although it did cost them). And he had way more success than Red. Syracuse hems and haws after they make a bad decision hoping a miracle happens.

It’s possible to turn things around quickly when you have a completely different approach than Syracuse does. I think you’ve commented Syracuse doesn’t want to run athletics like “pro sports” - and that’s entirely the reason why a return to prominence is unlikely. Everyone else that is winning has moved on to a more professional model. In other words - if Syracuse wasn’t Syracuse, things could turn around quickly. But because they are Syracuse - it’s not going to happen.

By FAST do you mean when they offered Ollie a 2nd contract for 5 years? or when they got hit with the NCAA violations and had to vacate 2 years of wins so were easily able to scapegoat him? Come on dude at least if you're making an argument it's gotta be at least relevant.

There are no similarities except Autry's 1 dumpster of a season this year. I don't like Autry's coaching either but these scenarios are not even close.