jeez.You know what...
Have a good day. This is a pointless discussion. If the '17 team and this team played, I know which team I'd expect to win -- and it wouldn't be the current group.
I agree with aspects of what both RF and Pearl are saying.
I agree with RF that I think the 2017 team was better than 2021 team. Not by much, though. Maybe the 2017 team is a 4-5 point favorite and wins 6-7 out of 10 times.
I agree with Pearl that the 2017 team still struggled a lot even after the lineup switch. We lost 5 out of our last 7 before the NIT and some of the games we won were pretty miraculous (Clemson, NC State, Duke).
sorry for trying to point out the similarity of this team and that team being tantalizing on offense while both having no clue on defense and just overall frustratingly inconsistent
The difference being that the 2017 team transformed into an NCAA caliber team, but couldn't overcome the poor start with the incredibly poor lineup featuring several guys playing out of position that we started with. And they still came within a game of being in the field, despite that poor finish.
Does this team look like an NCAA squad? Who have they beaten?
I haven't seen anybody [despite FrancoPizza's post above] indicate that they thought that the 2017 was "great." But they were dangerous, and could beat top 20 teams. I don't think that this team can.
Right on. Just couldn't help but notice the similar feelings I had on that team coming to the end of that season and this team.All good -- as you know, you and I are on great terms, I'm just not in the mood to get dragged into an unnecessary argument over hypotheticals, when I'm still really frustrated about last night's game. No worries.
I don't think Va Tech is a real good team. Not as good as the teams we beat back then. And yes, we didn't get to play those teams. But that doesn't mean we would have beat them. And there is certainly a question of how good the Ville is. FSU, no question is good.eh I'd say
A) walloping a good VT team
B) losing chances to even play at home against teams like Fla St, L'vlle, Clemson
agree to disagree on VaTech - I don't think you beat the teams they have and not be goodI don't think Va Tech is a real good team. Not as good as the teams we beat back then. And yes, we didn't get to play those teams. But that doesn't mean we would have beat them. And there is certainly a question of how good the Ville is. FSU, no question is good.