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[Mack] Brown’s base salary will be $750,00 per year and $2 million in supplemental compensation. He will make $200,000 from Nike, and will get $50,000 in expenses per year. He will also get $500,000 per year in personal services from multimedia rights holder Learfield . His contract is for five years.

Brown will be tied as the 35th highest paid college football coach, according to the USA Today coaching database.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/college/article222239045.html
 
Would love to hear what CTO has to say about Dino and a compensation increase. I know it is not possible but would love her view from inside the BOT.
 
Where we stand. Where do we go?

Some have suggested $4MM-$4.5MM. This would put us in a range above LSU and WV and below Miami and ND. That range seems to eliminate everything except the super money jobs which is good. ACC Network coming in august 2019 helps the cause here.

Gut feel if you use 4MM as a good target with a healthy buyout increase and long terms to avoid frequent future increases and assistant coach increases also with buyout increases you would be very solid and safe and reduce costs related to coaching changes transition season lost revenue, etc.

That is still above LSU, WV, and Baylor. Buyout to protect the window against some of the 4-6MM jobs though some have resources that buyout doesn't matter. Remaining Positions above 4MM are all tough places to please the fanbase, have sanctions, or are places with longstanding pretty successful coaches, 2 years to install a system might not be given to Dino at some of these remaining schools above 4MM line.

SU could probably get away with 3.5-3.8MM but may be well served to hit the next whole number to eliminate the mental money gap in the zone where the sharks lie.

Potentially it could be low-mid 3s with larger win incentives for each win after the 5th win in a season up to a higher ceiling ~4.2MM + 1MM national title bonus and buyout increase, since income and interest in him is closely related to team success here and that is quickly multiplied by a championship (merch sales alone could cover this) but that may be a bit complex. Publicly call it a $5.2MM max contract after incentives.


Alabama $12,000,000
Clemson $8,500,000
Michigan $8,000,000
Ohio State $7,600,000
Texas A&M $7,500,000
Georgia $7,000,000
Auburn $7,000,000
USC $6,000,000
UCLA $6,000,000
Florida $6,000,000
Stanford $6,000,000
Penn State $6,000,000
Texas $5,750,000
TCU $5,500,000
Florida State $5,000,000
Oklahoma State $5,000,000
Nebraska $5,000,000
Miami $5,000,000
Washington $5,000,000
Notre Dame $5,000,000
Iowa $4,750,000
Michigan State $4,500,000
South Carolina $4,200,000
Louisville $4,200,000
Utah $4,000,000
Tennessee $4,000,000
Purdue $4,000,000
Mississippi State $4,000,000
Kentucky $4,000,000
Oklahoma $4,000,000
LSU $3,750,000
West Virginia $3,700,000
Texas Tech $3,600,000
Minnesota $3,600,000
Arkansas $3,500,000
Virginia Tech $3,500,000
Baylor $3,500,000
Virginia $3,500,000
Kansas State $3,500,000
Washington State $3,500,000
Northwestern $3,500,000
Wisconsin $3,300,000
Illinois $3,200,000
Colorado $3,200,000
Mississippi $3,000,000
SMU $3,000,000
Georgia Tech $3,000,000
Vanderbilt $3,000,000
Oregon $3,000,000
NC State $3,000,000
North Carolina $2,800,000
Boston College $2,750,000
Missouri $2,750,000
Duke $2,700,000
Syracuse $2,700,000
Pitt $2,500,000
Memphis $2,500,000
Rutgers $2,300,000
Iowa State $2,300,000
Cincinnati $2,300,000
Navy $2,250,000
BYU $2,000,000
Arizona $2,000,000
Houston $2,000,000
Colorado State $2,000,000
Oregon State $2,000,000
Indiana $2,000,000
Wake Forest $2,000,000
Arizona State $2,000,000
California $2,000,000
Temple $2,000,000
Fresno State $2,000,000
Boise State $2,000,000
Kansas $1,800,000
UCF $1,750,000
Connecticut $1,500,000
Tulsa $1,500,000
Maryland $1,500,000


 
Ottoble said:
Where we stand. Where do we go?

Some have suggested $4MM-$4.5MM. This would put us in a range above LSU and WV and below Miami and ND. That range seems to eliminate everything except the super money jobs which is good. ACC Network coming in august 2019 helps the cause here.

Gut feel if you use 4MM as a good target with a healthy buyout increase and long terms to avoid frequent future increases and assistant coach increases also with buyout increases you would be very solid and safe and reduce costs related to coaching changes transition season lost revenue, etc.

That is still above LSU, WV, and Baylor. Buyout to protect the window against some of the 4-6MM jobs though some have resources that buyout doesn't matter. Remaining Positions above 4MM are all tough places to please the fanbase, have sanctions, or are places with longstanding pretty successful coaches, 2 years to install a system might not be given to Dino at some of these remaining schools above 4MM line.

SU could probably get away with 3.5-3.8MM but may be well served to hit the next whole number to eliminate the mental money gap in the zone where the sharks lie.

Potentially it could be low-mid 3s with larger win incentives for each win after the 5th win in a season up to a higher ceiling ~4.2MM + 1MM national title bonus and buyout increase, since income and interest in him is closely related to team success here and that is quickly multiplied by a championship (merch sales alone could cover this) but that may be a bit complex. Publicly call it a $5.2MM max contract after incentives.

Alabama $12,000,000
Clemson $8,500,000
Michigan $8,000,000
Ohio State $7,600,000
Texas A&M $7,500,000
Georgia $7,000,000
Auburn $7,000,000
USC $6,000,000
UCLA $6,000,000
Florida $6,000,000
Stanford $6,000,000
Penn State $6,000,000
Texas $5,750,000
TCU $5,500,000
Florida State $5,000,000
Oklahoma State $5,000,000
Nebraska $5,000,000
Miami $5,000,000
Washington $5,000,000
Notre Dame $5,000,000
Iowa $4,750,000
Michigan State $4,500,000
South Carolina $4,200,000
Louisville $4,200,000
Utah $4,000,000
Tennessee $4,000,000
Purdue $4,000,000
Mississippi State $4,000,000
Kentucky $4,000,000
Oklahoma $4,000,000
LSU $3,750,000
West Virginia $3,700,000
Texas Tech $3,600,000
Minnesota $3,600,000
Arkansas $3,500,000
Virginia Tech $3,500,000
Baylor $3,500,000
Virginia $3,500,000
Kansas State $3,500,000
Washington State $3,500,000
Northwestern $3,500,000
Wisconsin $3,300,000
Illinois $3,200,000
Colorado $3,200,000
Mississippi $3,000,000
SMU $3,000,000
Georgia Tech $3,000,000
Vanderbilt $3,000,000
Oregon $3,000,000
NC State $3,000,000
North Carolina $2,800,000
Boston College $2,750,000
Missouri $2,750,000
Duke $2,700,000
Syracuse $2,700,000
Pitt $2,500,000
Memphis $2,500,000
Rutgers $2,300,000
Iowa State $2,300,000
Cincinnati $2,300,000
Navy $2,250,000
BYU $2,000,000
Arizona $2,000,000
Houston $2,000,000
Colorado State $2,000,000
Oregon State $2,000,000
Indiana $2,000,000
Wake Forest $2,000,000
Arizona State $2,000,000
California $2,000,000
Temple $2,000,000
Fresno State $2,000,000
Boise State $2,000,000
Kansas $1,800,000
UCF $1,750,000
Connecticut $1,500,000
Tulsa $1,500,000
Maryland $1,500,000

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Well done!!
 
Ottoble said:
Where we stand. Where do we go?

Some have suggested $4MM-$4.5MM. This would put us in a range above LSU and WV and below Miami and ND. That range seems to eliminate everything except the super money jobs which is good. ACC Network coming in august 2019 helps the cause here.

Gut feel if you use 4MM as a good target with a healthy buyout increase and long terms to avoid frequent future increases and assistant coach increases also with buyout increases you would be very solid and safe and reduce costs related to coaching changes transition season lost revenue, etc.

That is still above LSU, WV, and Baylor. Buyout to protect the window against some of the 4-6MM jobs though some have resources that buyout doesn't matter. Remaining Positions above 4MM are all tough places to please the fanbase, have sanctions, or are places with longstanding pretty successful coaches, 2 years to install a system might not be given to Dino at some of these remaining schools above 4MM line.

SU could probably get away with 3.5-3.8MM but may be well served to hit the next whole number to eliminate the mental money gap in the zone where the sharks lie.

Potentially it could be low-mid 3s with larger win incentives for each win after the 5th win in a season up to a higher ceiling ~4.2MM + 1MM national title bonus and buyout increase, since income and interest in him is closely related to team success here and that is quickly multiplied by a championship (merch sales alone could cover this) but that may be a bit complex. Publicly call it a $5.2MM max contract after incentives.

Alabama $12,000,000
Clemson $8,500,000
Michigan $8,000,000
Ohio State $7,600,000
Texas A&M $7,500,000
Georgia $7,000,000
Auburn $7,000,000
USC $6,000,000
UCLA $6,000,000
Florida $6,000,000
Stanford $6,000,000
Penn State $6,000,000
Texas $5,750,000
TCU $5,500,000
Florida State $5,000,000
Oklahoma State $5,000,000
Nebraska $5,000,000
Miami $5,000,000
Washington $5,000,000
Notre Dame $5,000,000
Iowa $4,750,000
Michigan State $4,500,000
South Carolina $4,200,000
Louisville $4,200,000
Utah $4,000,000
Tennessee $4,000,000
Purdue $4,000,000
Mississippi State $4,000,000
Kentucky $4,000,000
Oklahoma $4,000,000
LSU $3,750,000
West Virginia $3,700,000
Texas Tech $3,600,000
Minnesota $3,600,000
Arkansas $3,500,000
Virginia Tech $3,500,000
Baylor $3,500,000
Virginia $3,500,000
Kansas State $3,500,000
Washington State $3,500,000
Northwestern $3,500,000
Wisconsin $3,300,000
Illinois $3,200,000
Colorado $3,200,000
Mississippi $3,000,000
SMU $3,000,000
Georgia Tech $3,000,000
Vanderbilt $3,000,000
Oregon $3,000,000
NC State $3,000,000
North Carolina $2,800,000
Boston College $2,750,000
Missouri $2,750,000
Duke $2,700,000
Syracuse $2,700,000
Pitt $2,500,000
Memphis $2,500,000
Rutgers $2,300,000
Iowa State $2,300,000
Cincinnati $2,300,000
Navy $2,250,000
BYU $2,000,000
Arizona $2,000,000
Houston $2,000,000
Colorado State $2,000,000
Oregon State $2,000,000
Indiana $2,000,000
Wake Forest $2,000,000
Arizona State $2,000,000
California $2,000,000
Temple $2,000,000
Fresno State $2,000,000
Boise State $2,000,000
Kansas $1,800,000
UCF $1,750,000
Connecticut $1,500,000
Tulsa $1,500,000
Maryland $1,500,000

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Where are you getting those #'s from??
There's a USA Today (clearly, not the strongest reference) report out there, that has #'s that are mostly consistently lower than what you're listing here.

USA TODAY Sports

I doubt Syracuse goes to $4M salary (and definitely not $4.5M or greater), UNLESS it's the total comp available, including all possible performance incentives.

Feel like $3.6M salary is the sweet spot, matching pool for all assistants (this is BIG), and a crapton of incentives available to up that well north of $4m for a good year, and maybe north of $4.5M for a great year.

Plus a correspondingly large buyout. Faith goes both ways.
 
people seem to be conflating what another school pays their coach with what another school would pay dino to be their coach. the latter is dino's market value, not what unc pays mack brown.
 
Whitey23 said:
[Mack] Brown’s base salary will be $750,00 per year and $2 million in supplemental compensation. He will make $200,000 from Nike, and will get $50,000 in expenses per year. He will also get $500,000 per year in personal services from multimedia rights holder Learfield . His contract is for five years.

Brown will be tied as the 35th highest paid college football coach, according to the USA Today coaching database.

How much will new North Carolina football coach Mack Brown make? Here are the details.
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So his salary from UNC is $2.75m.
 
rrlbees said:
Think about what you said. We’re top 20 so we have to pay him top 20. There’s new teams popping into the top 20 every year. If every coach said that, you’d have everyone making top 20 and the scale would increase significantly year over year. We’ll do what’s fair. I hope they back up the brinks trunk to his house because I want Babers here till he retires from coaching. But I’m realistic enough to realize, this is his first year here where we’re over .500 and he’s only been a P5 coach for 3 years. If they bring him up $1m I’m sure he’ll see that as fair.
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I guess from that perspective I get what ur saying. Makes sense.
 
My dad and I had this conversation a few weeks ago. How much extra income does the football team, because babers has us as a top 25 team again, generate in extra income. How much from ticket prices and concessions? A few million a year? So then basically his raise pays for itself just out of ticket and concession income.

Basically what is dino’s presence worth in terms of extra income to the university on an annual basis. It’s very close or exceeds the amount we’re talking about raising his salary.
 
Whitey23 said:
They were talking about Helton's $10mm+ private school buyout if they had fired him.
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Ahh - makes sense now. I was making dinner while listening...

Good stuff anyhow. I particularly liked the rant against Mack Brown.
 
WinRoadGame said:
I dont see John Wildhack messing this up. It could possibly happen but I trust hes going to do everything he can to give him what he wants. As far as talking higher ups to Pay Dino and staff. I have faith. And as far as other teams signing Dino. I am confident we most likely will keep him. Football is undefeated in the Dome. Why would you invest all this money and not pay the proven coach and staff more money? We arent talking a hundred million dollars. Dino might lose a couple guys, maybe even a high profile guy. But he had a great year with losing what's his name to Kent State? And a lot of people thought he was a top coach.
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He 'ed up ESPN, so anything's possible.
 
oldpinepoint said:
Brohm getting paid $6mil to stay at Purdue. Me thinks that $3.5 mil isn’t going to cut it
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Thamel says L’ville offered 35/7.

That’s after
Pitino’s buyout lawsuit over the 44mm they are trying to get out of paying him
Petrino’s ~14mm buyout.
Brohm’s 4.4m buyout
 
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Whitey23 said:
Thamel says L’ville offered 35/7.

That’s after
Pitino’s buyout lawsuit over the 44mm they are trying to get out of paying him
Petrino’s ~14mm buyout.
Brohm’s 4.4m buyout
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Their AD has a ton of money from everything I've heard. This seems to confirm that
 
orange_in_VA said:
Their AD has a ton of money from everything I've heard. This seems to confirm that
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it might be their ad is willing to spend a ton of money. the older i get, the more i get creeped out by old, white boosters spending gobs of money to support these fake amateur programs.
 
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