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I just listened to their conversation. It was pretty interesting. The fifth spot came down to Scott Schwedes, Ishmael, Quinton Spotwood and Alec Lemon. Shelby Hill also got consideration. They mentioned Atta Emba Tawo and his spectacular single season but didn’t put him on the list because it was only 1 year. They went with Ish because he’s the career leader in receiving yards.Nothing against Ish, but there’s gotta be a better 5th WR.
Ismail?
Shelby Hill?
Tommy Kane?
David Tyree?
Ok - so I just checked the stats -
Ish is the career leader in receiving yards at Cuse.
I…. did not know that.
And a 3rd Team AP All-American. We haven't produced many guys who have earned those kind of honors.Nothing against Ish, but there’s gotta be a better 5th WR.
Ismail?
Shelby Hill?
Tommy Kane?
David Tyree?
Ok - so I just checked the stats -
Ish is the career leader in receiving yards at Cuse.
I…. did not know that.
KJ averaged 19 yards a catch as a junior, caught 64 balls as a senior, and was a 2nd round draft pick. I think he was actually more accomplished as a receiver than a special teamer. It just took him a little longer to get there because of the position change. I can see putting others in front of him though.Alright I’ll say it. The late great Mike Williams should be in the top 5. Only played three years but would have been all-time yards leader and let’s just say he didn’t have the best QBs lining up to throw to him.
Big fan of KJ but from an impact standpoint I think special teams first not WR at Cuse. Him and Spotwood are neck and neck in my mind for their WR careers at Cuse.
Both had great senior years and I feel underrated for what they did for the program.Id personally go with Alec Lemon at #5 but that's just my opinion
You certainly can't solely look at numbers when trying to figure these things out. Imagine Harrison, Monk, or Moore with the current offenses.Both had great senior years and I feel underrated for what they did for the program.
Ish gets a step above, in my book, for the better senior year as he was 2nd in Rec and 3rd in Yards plus being tied or ahead of Lemon in all WR categories helps put him above.
We've not had a great history of "legendary" WRs but still getting down to Top 5 is pretty hard.
How much weight do you put on our 1 year guys like Amba or Meeks? You could even toss in Erv Phillips as he is career leader in receptions and single game. Do you take into account Scott Schwedes playing on run heavy teams.
You can go on and on with various factors. These lists are fun but can be maddening lol.
*jumps off soap box*
Both had great senior years and I feel underrated for what they did for the program.
Ish gets a step above, in my book, for the better senior year as he was 2nd in Rec and 3rd in Yards plus being tied or ahead of Lemon in all WR categories helps put him above.
We've not had a great history of "legendary" WRs but still getting down to Top 5 is pretty hard.
How much weight do you put on our 1 year guys like Amba or Meeks? You could even toss in Erv Phillips as he is career leader in receptions and single game. Do you take into account Scott Schwedes playing on run heavy teams.
You can go on and on with various factors. These lists are fun but can be maddening lol.
*jumps off soap box*
Tommy KaneNothing against Ish, but there’s gotta be a better 5th WR.
Ismail?
Shelby Hill?
Tommy Kane?
David Tyree?
Ok - so I just checked the stats -
Ish is the career leader in receiving yards at Cuse.
I…. did not know that.
I think he just caught another TD versus MissouriId personally go with Alec Lemon at #5 but that's just my opinion
I’m shocked Tim Lane wasn’t considered.
And yes, that’s sarcasm for those not inclined to see it.
I think he just caught another TD versus Missouri
He was a menace on punt returns … so sad injuries derailed a very promising career.
1997 Quinton Spotwood, as a true sophomore 41 catches 797 yards 8 touchdowns 31 punt returns 463 yards 14.9 average 4(!!!!!) punt return touchdowns. I'm not going to do the work, but you would be hard pressed to find a better sophomore year (Mike Williams 60-837-10 was also great)He was a menace on punt returns … so sad injuries derailed a very promising career.
I also remember how good our blocking on those punt returns were back then. Same with our kick returns. Just think, we had KJ open the year with the kickoff for a TD and then Spotwood with the punt returns. That '97 team was the best all around of the McNabb era.1997 Quinton Spotwood, as a true sophomore 41 catches 797 yards 8 touchdowns 31 punt returns 463 yards 14.9 average 4(!!!!!) punt return touchdowns. I'm not going to do the work, but you would be hard pressed to find a better sophomore year (Mike Williams 60-837-10 was also great)
He was explosive and dynamic and it's a damned shame that he wasn't the same after the injury.
I remember him making an incredible catch against NC State that setup the infamous fumble by Dee Brown at the 1.1997 Quinton Spotwood, as a true sophomore 41 catches 797 yards 8 touchdowns 31 punt returns 463 yards 14.9 average 4(!!!!!) punt return touchdowns. I'm not going to do the work, but you would be hard pressed to find a better sophomore year (Mike Williams 60-837-10 was also great)
He was explosive and dynamic and it's a damned shame that he wasn't the same after the injury.
Was that the one where the db had perfect coverage and he dove over him for the catch?I remember him making an incredible catch against NC State that setup the infamous fumble by Dee Brown at the 1.