UNLV QB refuses to play rest of season

[SuFTW]

It’s obvious UNLV wanted to cut him from the roster and had buyers remorse

Why would they want to cut their starting quarterback when they are 3-0?

 

[Pyle]

If Fran gets this team to 9 wins that's resurrecting a dead program. Smart programs read through the BS and hire talent. Didn't Saban lose a few games at Mich ST before he left for LSU.

If Fran is on the radar he'll be circled and hunted by the SEC. I have no idea if he's full of or will stick it out. To suggest he won't be in demand if they do good (not great) is naieve IMO...

BTW, I owe you a drink......

 

[VTAaron]

I don't want to have a QB that quits on his team for money, NIL (Same thing) or anything else unless they got some family/academic or personal issue. End of season if the coaches give up on him one thing, but early start/mid season and the team depends on you it another.

 

[Cusefan95]

I don't want to have a QB that quits on his team for money, NIL (Same thing) or anything else unless they got some family/academic or personal issue. End of season if the coaches give up on him one thing, but early start/mid season and the team depends on you it another.

It kinda looks like UNLV promised him significant money, decided not to pay him since they had other options, and didn’t really care when he left. Saying what happened was him “quitting over money” is an absurd take - he was promised something, the school reneged, he left.

It’s almost entirely on the school - but it’s also clear they didn’t care if he stayed or left. I’d take him in a heartbeat if he had high end talent…but he doesn’t. Which is why UNLV was indifferent.

This is a talent issue - not a character issue as you characterized it.

 

[VTAaron]

It kinda looks like UNLV promised him significant money, decided not to pay him since they had other options, and didn’t really care when he left. Saying what happened was him “quitting over money” is an absurd take - he was promised something, the school reneged, he left.

It’s almost entirely on the school - but it’s also clear they didn’t care if he stayed or left. I’d take him in a heartbeat if he had high end talent…but he doesn’t. Which is why UNLV was indifferent.

This is a talent issue - not a character issue as you characterized it.

I consider it both, but how can you say quitting over money is an absurd take?..

 

[djorange1989]

I consider it both, but how can you say quitting over money is an absurd take?..

Because anyone who is supposed to be paid X and doesn’t get paid has every right to quit. That is indeed quitting over money, as in you never paid me

 

[VTAaron]

Because anyone who is supposed to be paid X and doesn’t get paid has every right to quit. That is indeed quitting over money, as in you never paid me

Isn't we have capitalism and no team loyalty/spirit, or anything else these days.

 

[money3189]

I consider it both, but how can you say quitting over money is an absurd take?..

Read this headline.

This is not the same college football we all grew up watching. Contract negotiations matters in college football. Professional players don’t play when contracts are met. That’s what these players are now.

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[VTAaron]

Read this headline.

This is not the same college football we all grew up watching. Contract negotiations matters in college football. Professional players don’t play when contracts are met. That’s what these players are now.

x.com

x.com

If only the rest of us could do that with our academic degrees and potentials. I'm sure the SEC and Southern ACC are happy they get to pump cash into sports, and well we will get some results and fame for results. But we all know it lopsided. I'd rather just be there some really good playing... The SYR/Miami game was great. The fact McCord came here was as well. Don't know what happened. If it was about cash, well glad it can happen... I'm straight up saying I won't trust any player or a QB nor want them if they quit and do not stay with their team. That's my point.

 

[money3189]

If only the rest of us could do that with our academic degrees and potentials. I'm sure the SEC and Southern ACC are happy they get to pump cash into sports, and well we will get some results and fame for results. But we all know it lopsided. I'd rather just be there some really good playing... The SYR/Miami game was great. The fact McCord came here was as well. Don't know what happened. If it was about cash, well glad it can happen... I'm straight up saying I won't trust any player or a QB nor want them if they quit and do not stay with their team. That's my point.

You are saying quit as if there wasn’t an agreed upon verbal agreement or contract. It’s a two way street. Professional athletes leave teams when they can’t agree on terms.

These days of “quitting” is simply not the same.

 

[kingtidge]

I consider it both, but how can you say quitting over money is an absurd take?..

Hi Jon, we know you make $X a week, but starting today you are going to make less - $Y a week.

Hope you are ok with that...

Would you quit?

 

[VTAaron]

Hi Jon, we know you make $X a week, but starting today you are going to make less - $Y a week.

Hope you are ok with that...

Would you quit?

If I had gotten a scholarship why should I care? If it about money give it to someone else.

 

[VTAaron]

You are saying quit as if there wasn’t an agreed upon verbal agreement or contract. It’s a two way street. Professional athletes leave teams when they can’t agree on terms.

These days of “quitting” is simply not the same.

The next day in Vegas making money off a bet… or throwing it for others…

 

[Cover1]

If I had gotten a scholarship why should I care? If it about money give it to someone else.

if it was just about scholarships then none of these teams would have to pay for transfers or buy recruiting classes.

 

[kingtidge]

If I had gotten a scholarship why should I care? If it about money give it to someone else.

That's the spirit...

 

[wfschrec]

If only the rest of us could do that with our academic degrees and potentials. I'm sure the SEC and Southern ACC are happy they get to pump cash into sports, and well we will get some results and fame for results. But we all know it lopsided. I'd rather just be there some really good playing... The SYR/Miami game was great. The fact McCord came here was as well. Don't know what happened. If it was about cash, well glad it can happen... I'm straight up saying I won't trust any player or a QB nor want them if they quit and do not stay with their team. That's my point.

Did you see how much Michigan and OSU put out? It isn’t just the south.

 

[Trueblue25]

If I had gotten a scholarship why should I care? If it about money give it to someone else.

Because you could get a better degree and more guaranteed money elsewhere

 

[Cusefan95]

Isn't we have capitalism and no team loyalty/spirit, or anything else these days.

So as a hypothetical, you take a job at an agreed upon salary, and when you got your first check you realized it was half of what it should have been. You inquire as to why, and you’re told they decided you weren’t worth what you’d agreed upon - but they expected you to be a “team player” and stay anyway even though you weren’t going to make anywhere close to the original agreement.

Would it be rational for you to stay (provided you had literally any other option in life)?
Would it be rational for other businesses you seek employment with to hold it against you once they heard the situation?

An answer of “Yes” to either of those is irrational. Yet that’s the standard you are holding Sluka to. You’d need to explain why that behavior would be acceptable and expected in any other facet of life - but suddenly in college sports the laborer is just expected to accept getting screwed over because not doing so means he’s not a team player?

 

[atlanticuse]

I can't wait until they re-instate the military draft. How will that work with these strapping multi-million dollar entitled crybabies?

Oh, btw, UNLV won 10 games and now lost their coach to Purdue. Was that lost here?

 

[OCESIP]

The only logical option to the whole NIL issue is to require
a written contact, signed by all parties, that specifically spells
out what the obligations are for all parties. You need a legal
document. Multi year contracts would not work, so it would
have to be renegotiated annually.

 

[Cusefan95]

The only logical option to the whole NIL issue is to require
a written contact, signed by all parties, that specifically spells
out what the obligations are for all parties. You need a legal
document. Multi year contracts would not work, so it would
have to be renegotiated annually.

The flaw in the system currently is that NIl isn’t supposed to be used to recruit. So schools get around that by making verbal agreements and finalizing them once the athlete is on campus. It’s a fundamentally flawed process.

 

[Cusefan95]

If I had gotten a scholarship why should I care? If it about money give it to someone else.

I just want to make sure everyone appreciates that this manages to not answer the actual question, since NIL is paid IN ADDITION TO the scholarship.

I’ll also note that “the scholarship is their pay” is a dumb statement. (You did not make it, but it is being implied here). We have a convention in human societies for thousands of years now that the standard for payment is something called “money” (you may have heard of it). Someone can choose payment in some other medium - but in a legitimate system that is their choice, not something imposed upon them. A scholarship was imposed upon athletes for decades as the compensation for playing, there was no choice involved. It’s a big part of why we got here, payment in something other than money which cannot be negotiated was always legally dubious.

 

[Cusefannotindc]

I can't wait until they re-instate the military draft. How will that work with these strapping multi-million dollar entitled crybabies?

Oh, btw, UNLV won 10 games and now lost their coach to Purdue. Was that lost here?

i want a major war to break out and have teenagers be forced to fight it because i am mad that they are getting paid to be good at a sport with billions of dollars in tv contracts, is quite a take

 

[ar inj]

I just want to make sure everyone appreciates that this manages to not answer the actual question, since NIL is paid IN ADDITION TO the scholarship.

I’ll also note that “the scholarship is their pay” is a dumb statement. (You did not make it, but it is being implied here). We have a convention in human societies for thousands of years now that the standard for payment is something called “money” (you may have heard of it). Someone can choose payment in some other medium - but in a legitimate system that is their choice, not something imposed upon them. A scholarship was imposed upon athletes for decades as the compensation for playing, there was no choice involved. It’s a big part of why we got here, payment in something other than money which cannot be negotiated was always legally dubious.

Actually, it is reported that the first wages were paid in beer not “money,” which is historically a relatively recent development. A scholarship is a form of payment, after all one is not required to have a scholarship to play. Whether that was fair or sufficient compensation then or now is a separate discussion.

 

[swish7]

If Sluka is the best dude, I want Sluka. If they failed to provide the promised money, that is not an indictment of him.

Bottom line, it's gonna be some kind of drop-off from the once in a generation performance we got from Kyle. The only way to make it equal or better is if the OL improves, the running improves, & the QB can achieve 325ish via a passing / running combo.