USC and UCLA to the Big Ten

[CousCuse]

Then they’ll just do all 4 at the same time.

Or die tryin".

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Dick_in_MI]

We dicked-the-dog far to long in football and now we let ourselves become irrelevant in basketball to boot. Not looking good for the home team.

Irrelevant in basketball??? We are down from where we used to be, but we are still very much a name brand. In the past 10 years we have had a final 4 and 2 Sweet 16's.

In the COVID year...the one that SU football fans use to claim that the 1-win season didn't happen...we made the Sweet 16 despite having a lot of guys test positive (unlike football) and having two quarantines in-season that prevented practice.

Even this year when JB had his first losing season, we were still only 1 game under .500

"Irrelevent" is vastly overstating things.

 

[sufandu]

Syracuse advocated for Pitt to join the ACC over UConn. We were ahead of Pitt then.

That was 40 years ago. 40 years before that, Army was winning football NCs and Heisman trophies.

I'm not saying we're behind them, just that what happened 40 years ago is mostly irrelevant.

 

[texascpa]

They better move fast.

 

[Noexcuse]

They better move fast.

The ship hit an iceberg sir but this is the Titanic so nothing to worry about

 

[Day2]

The Big East has 11 teams. They could form a football division with UConn and nine other schools:

Kansas
Duke
Cuse
BC
Pitt
Miami
Louisville
Wake
WVU or Cincy

I can see leaving out Wake, although I think the remnants of the ACC need to be unified.

Of course this conference would be in the tier below the B1G/SEC. It’s the best scenario for us, Duke, and Kansas, though.

(BTW, Kansas has nothing to offer the B1G or SEC. There’s a reason why they’re still in the Big 12.)

 

[orangepassion]

ACC is in a catch-22. You can’t reopen the TV deal w/o adding teams, but if you do that, it likely affects the GOR and teams could leave

 

[Dinkyspond]

this sums up how I feel

 

[Day2]

That was 40 years ago. 40 years before that, Army was winning football NCs and Heisman trophies.

I'm not saying we're behind them, just that what happened 40 years ago is mostly irrelevant.

10 years ago.

 

[Stern]

So the "RUMOR/STORY" today is that Apple may be behind this with new money they are wanting to throw at the BIG 10.

Apple and the Big 10 were talking about having exclusive BIG 10 games only be streaming on Apple and Apple also would own a significant portion of exclusive Big 10 content. While FOX would own the lion share, Apple would be the "B" partner for content. But the sides weren't close and talks ended and Apple kinda pulled out of the talks even though they had super strong interest. With USC/UCLA in the Big 10 now Apple picked up the phone and wants to throw MORE money at the Big 10 as of last night and continue talking.

Apparently, the Big 10 wants Apple and to be in business with them and they pulled a big move to get Apple back at the table talking ASAP.

Also, the new leaked "RUMOR/STORY" is Big 10 and SEC will go to 20 or 24 for FOOTBALL only. And they (SEC/BIG10) want to work with the other conference to have the "non-football sports" stay regional. (Pretty much football be like a Jr. NFL with its own TV money, and those athletes be paid employees of the school. while every other sport is still a Student-Athlete under the old rules)

So, USC/UCLA in the Big 10 for football, but in Pac 12 for everything else (I know it makes no sense with the news yesterday but that is the end game from some insiders when everything eventually shakes out.)

And same for other schools who may be leaving the ACC and Pac 12 soon to jump. To that I say GOOD bleepin LUCK pulling that off. You are going to cripple Pac 12 and ACC football but try and make nice with them by having the sports that make little money stay behind as some parting gift for destroying their conference. Guessing Pac 12 and ACC would say "stick it" if that is offered! And if they don't they are clueless.

 

[gmoney44]

Irrelevant in basketball??? We are down from where we used to be, but we are still very much a name brand. In the past 10 years we have had a final 4 and 2 Sweet 16's.

In the COVID year...the one that SU football fans use to claim that the 1-win season didn't happen...we made the Sweet 16 despite having a lot of guys test positive (unlike football) and having two quarantines in-season that prevented practice.

Even this year when JB had his first losing season, we were still only 1 game under .500

"Irrelevent" is vastly overstating things.

There is little to no buzz for SU basketball in years in Syracuse let alone anywhere else. We have been irrelevant for a while. People in this town said for a while that the football team wasn’t irrelevant after a few mediocre to bad season. Here we are over 20 years later and the football team is on life support.

 

[JeremyCuse]

That was 40 years ago. 40 years before that, Army was winning football NCs and Heisman trophies.

I'm not saying we're behind them, just that what happened 40 years ago is mostly irrelevant.

That was actually less then a decade ago. Hitting the whiskey early today

 

[Day2]

ACC is in a catch-22. You can’t reopen the TV deal w/o adding teams, but if you do that, it likely affects the GOR and teams could leave

The GOR is the ACC’s own worst enemy. It gives them enough arrogance to hide behind a safeguard for the next 14 years. After that, they’ll find themselves left in the cold.

No one should be happy about the “protection” the GOR provides.

 

[qdawgg]

I fully expect them to F over the ACC just like they did the Big East. They are without a doubt the worst team in the country to affiliate your school with. It’s not matter of if but when they will F you over. Always has been and always will be.

That’s not fair at all, they didn’t F over Brian Kelly when he killed a kid.

 

[baggerbob]

ACC is in a catch-22. You can’t reopen the TV deal w/o adding teams, but if you do that, it likely affects the GOR and teams could leave

You either add all the teams remaining in the pac12 and big12, and add Boice St, Memphis, USF, and San Diego St, to get to 48 teams in 4 or 6 divisions, or relegate yourself to not playing football.
Staying at the current status quo means a lot of teams become irrelevant.

 

[storange]

There has little to no buzz for SU basketball in years in Syracuse let alone anywhere else. We have been irrelevant for a while. People in this town said for a while that the football team wasn’t irrelevant after a few mediocre to bad season. Here we are over 20 years later and the football team is on life support.

Hmmmm I remember a elite 8 game in Chicago that seemed like an SU home game. Just one example of the popularity of SU basketball program that still draws fans when they hit the road.

 

[Stevenson]

Footprint expansion. Only if they go to like 32 teams.

We dicked-the-dog far to long in football and now we let ourselves become irrelevant in basketball to boot. Not looking good for the home team.

Maybe JB has another relative he can put on the team

 

[OrangeXtreme]

The Big East has 11 teams. They could form a football division with UConn and nine other schools:

Kansas
Duke
Cuse
BC
Pitt
Miami
Louisville
Wake
WVU or Cincy

I can see leaving out Wake, although I think the remnants of the ACC need to be unified.

Of course this conference would be in the tier below the B1G/SEC. It’s the best scenario for us, Duke, and Kansas, though.

(BTW, Kansas has nothing to offer the B1G or SEC. There’s a reason why they’re still in the Big 12.)

These are the same people who REFUSED to add football teams a decade ago. Which is why Miami, Va Tech, BC, Pitt, SU, WV and Louisville bailed in the first place.

Nah, the BE will remain two things ... Catholic and Non-Football only.

 

[DaCuse]

Another reason why we should have joined the B1G instead of the ACC…

like they would have taken us

 

[CuseLegacy]

 

[Cheriehoop]

These are the same people who REFUSED to add football teams a decade ago. Which is why Miami, Va Tech, BC, Pitt, SU, WV and Louisville bailed in the first place.

Nah, the BE will remain two things ... Catholic and Non-Football only.

They aren’t all Catholic but definitely the majority are and no they gave up big football dreams years ago knowing the cost to be competitive was prohibitive for them. They are all basketball schools and are very happy to not have nothing to do with football.

 

[Day2]

like they would have taken us

They would have had we not dropped the AAU affiliation. That’s the only reason Rutgers is there.

 

[Day2]

These are the same people who REFUSED to add football teams a decade ago. Which is why Miami, Va Tech, BC, Pitt, SU, WV and Louisville bailed in the first place.

Nah, the BE will remain two things ... Catholic and Non-Football only.

Obviously a lot has changed. Heck, the BE just took UConn. The conference will be in trouble if the B1G/SEC/Vecna kills the NCAA Tournament.

If the ACC remnants stay unified, this would be an ACC/BE merger.

 

[DaCuse]

They would have had we not dropped the AAU affiliation. That’s the only reason Rutgers is there.

Why did we drop the AAU affiliation? Was that Nancy's doing?