Wake Forest Defense

[Upstate]

Give me a rundown. Why is there so much confidence on their part in their D?

 

[TheCusian]

Give me a rundown. Why is there so much confidence on their part in their D?

They have a really solid group of LB's and two nice corners. Talent on that side of the ball is experienced.

But the O is so, so bad.

 

[anomander]

We could be looking at a 6-3 pillow fight. Just as long as we have the 6 though.

 

[Crusty]

I don't think this will be a baseball score. My guess is that we will put up 25-27 points and they will not get more than 10.

The Deacons are 9th in scoring defense in the ACC allowing 24 ppg. We allow 26.7.

In total defense they are 8th giving up 354 yards per game.

Rushing D they are 10th allowing 171 yards per game.

Their strength seems to be pass defense where they are 4th with a 183 yards allowing per game.

 

[TheCusian]

I don't think this will be a baseball score. My guess is that we will put up 25-27 points and they will not get more than 10. The Deacons are 9th in scoring defense in the ACC allowing 24 ppg. We allow 26.7. In total defense they are 8th giving up 354 yards per game. Rushing D they are 10th allowing 171 yards per game. Their strength seems to be pass defense where they are 4th with a 183 yards allowing per game.

I think they are like us in that the O can't seem to help out the D by staying on the field. Forcing 3 and outs - then wear the down with the run.

 

[qdawgg]

I don't think this will be a baseball score. My guess is that we will put up 25-27 points and they will not get more than 10.

The Deacons are 9th in scoring defense in the ACC allowing 24 ppg. We allow 26.7.

In total defense they are 8th giving up 354 yards per game.

Rushing D they are 10th allowing 171 yards per game.

Their strength seems to be pass defense where they are 4th with a 183 yards allowing per game.

I wonder if this is just because teams choose to run against them and don't pass much, or because they shut down the pass forcing the run but can't stop it. My only worry is that in the passing game, we lose the game or keep it close by potential mistakes... dropped passes or INT's.

 

[Crusty]

I wonder if this is just because teams choose to run against them and don't pass much, or because they shut down the pass forcing the run but can't stop it. My only worry is that in the passing game, we lose the game or keep it close by potential mistakes... dropped passes or INT's.

We can have those mistakes in every game (and have), but I just don't think Wake is all that tough. We have played a MUCH tougher schedule than they have and I suspect that their D numbers will suffer as the conference schedule unfolds.

Their biggest problem is their offense + 225 net yards in the two games vs FSU and UL.

If we lose this game I will shut up when the crazies call for everyone's head.

 

[upperdeck]

hard to tell how good their D is, it seems like it is solid. everyone gets around 400 yds and avg around 30 pts. 3 teams threw for 300, 2 teams ran for 200+ , army for over 300. 2 teams went for close to 200/200 and gardner webb did nothing

 

[qdawgg]

We can have those mistakes in every game (and have), but I just don't think Wake is all that tough. We have played a MUCH tougher schedule than they have and I suspect that their D numbers will suffer as the conference schedule unfolds.

Their biggest problem is their offense + 225 net yards in the two games vs FSU and UL.

If we lose this game I will shut up when the crazies call for everyone's head.

I don't disagree but... just because we've played a tougher schedule doesn't make us the better team. It's very possible we just aren't very good, just like WF. I don't know. We haven't played that impressive when playing what should be our "peers" or what we think are our peers. This WF game should be very telling I think.

 

[Chip]

Give me a rundown. Why is there so much confidence on their part in their D?

Because they compare it to their offense. Which means that if you give up 450 and 31 points, you look like the Steel Curtain.

 

[GoSU96]

Wake Forest sucks.

If this isn't something like 24-3 I'll be disappointed.

 

[IHeartSUFball]

Wake Forest sucks. If this isn't something like 24-3 I'll be disappointed.

I'm usually very positive and optimistic but if wake game doesn't go our way, gonna lean towards the dark side

 

[Crusty]

I don't disagree but... just because we've played a tougher schedule doesn't make us the better team. It's very possible we just aren't very good, just like WF. I don't know. We haven't played that impressive when playing what should be our "peers" or what we think are our peers. This WF game should be very telling I think.

Certainly true. While it is quite possible that we just aren't very good, I don't think that is the case. We can move the ball and Wake just can't. We gain 200 yards per game more than Wake - actually double 412 to 212 again, versus harder opponents.

Wake shares our RZ issues. We are 12th in the ACC in RZ conversions and Wake is 13th. However, we have been there 23 times and Wake has been there 18. (BTW Clemson is dead last in the ACC!)

We solve our RZ issues and we might be a fairly good team.

 

[qdawgg]

Certainly true. While it is quite possible that we just aren't very good, I don't think that is the case. We can move the ball and Wake just can't. We gain 200 yards per game more than Wake - actually double 412 to 212 again, versus harder opponents.

Wake shares our RZ issues. We are 12th in the ACC in RZ conversions and Wake is 13th. However, we have been there 23 times and Wake has been there 18. (BTW Clemson is dead last in the ACC!)

We solve our RZ issues and we might be a fairly good team.

I do believe that after the FSU game actually. After the Maryland and Louisville game I wanted to blow up or just quit on the team altogether. But the FSU game, of all things, has given me hope that maybe we aren't as bad as we've looked against teams we should beat.

 

[SmilinBob]

WF knows that their defense has to win the game so this is going to be a very interesting test for Long because unlike FSU, Wake doesn't have a Heisman trophy winner at qb so they are going to mix up their defense and give Long multiple looks (If that is something they do). I have to think SU might be conservative and have the offense not lose this game.

 

[orangencpolice]

I am giving Lester a chance with the revised play calling on offense. I hope we beat them by about two touchdowns after how well we played against FSU and Winston for the entire game. We looked really good at times on both offense and we didn't give up any huge plays for a touchdown either. We made them earn it. I also like the way our d line was putting pressure on Winston. I wanted to see Ron Thompson crush him. I hope we come out of this game with a victory or the crazies will be calling for heads. Go Cuse.

 

[Orange4]

There defense is good but we put up 20 against Florida State...they're no Florida State defense plus Long might play the whole game allowing him to get in rhythm. I think we are fine in this game and win 28-7

 

[thorpedo]

I'm usually very positive and optimistic but if wake game doesn't go our way, gonna lean towards the dark side

Gooooooooooood. Goooooooood (in Avery creepy an emperor-ish voice)

 

[thorpedo]

There defense is good but we put up 20 against Florida State...they're no Florida State defense plus Long might play the whole game allowing him to get in rhythm. I think we are fine in this game and win 28-7

I'm with you on this one. I really feal positive about long and his ability to get our offense moving. He really had nice drives vs FSU. Sure he's gonna have a few mistakes Saturday but he will throw 3 tds one rushing 250 pass 58 rushing and PTG goes for 109 and one TD.

 

[SmilinBob]

Does Wake blitz?