We got a 2021 Roster !!!

[GoSU96]

Not counting walk-ons:

Justin Lamson	Fr1.
Duce Chestnut	Fr1.
Malcolm Folk	Fr1.
Landon Morris	Fr1.
Terry Lockett	Fr1.
Dillon Markiewicz	Fr2.
Ja'Had Carter	Fr2.
Latarie Kinsler	Fr2.
JaCobian Morgan	Fr2.
Leon Lowery	Fr2.
Rob Hanna	Fr2.
Justin Barron	Fr2.
Anwar Sparrow	Fr2.
Stefon Thompson	Fr2.
Ben Labrosse	Fr2.
Trebor Pena	Fr2.
Marlowe Wax Jr.	Fr2.
Sean Tucker	Fr2.
Chase Atkinson	Fr2.
Maximilian Mang	Fr2.
Garth Barclay	Fr2.
Josh Ilaoa	Fr2.
Damien Alford	Fr2.
Ja'Vontae Williams	Fr2.
Steven Mahar Jr.	Fr2.
James Williams	Fr2.
Adrian Cole	RF
Garrett Williams	RF
Neil Nunn	RF
Steve Linton	RF
Aman Greenwood	RF
Anthony Red	RF
Joe Rondi	RF
Courtney Jackson	RF
Drew Tuazama	RF

Just going by what Dino said with Parker, which I belive included kids that were redshirt freshmen last year

 

[Orijinal]

This was one of the 12 year olds I referred to earlier.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Just going by what Dino said with Parker, which I belive included kids that were redshirt freshmen last year

Add in another 13 frosh/redshirt frosh walk-ons, and you're not wrong.

We're young, and we're restless.

 

[money3189]

I keep telling some of you that big DT's that can't move do no good in this defense. Every thing the staff has shown points towards more quicker explosive D Lineman. Not sure why people are surprised by this.

 

[orangeinohio]

This was one of the 12 year olds I referred to earlier.

Aha! Mystery explained:

 

[AngryOtto]

I keep telling some of you that big DT's that can't move do no good in this defense. Every thing the staff has shown points towards more quicker explosive D Lineman. Not sure why people are surprised by this.

I think they can be both. When I was looking at the 335 the de were around 280 nt 300 plus. I do think bear is moving to de. His size and athleticism would be great. I know they were interested in mcdoggle from WSU in the portal. There are some other guys to add depth.

 

[cusefan88]

I think they can be both. When I was looking at the 335 the de were around 280 nt 300 plus. I do think bear is moving to de. His size and athleticism would be great. I know they were interested in mcdoggle from WSU in the portal. There are some other guys to add depth.

MacDougle is going to Buffalo.

 

[syrBossHogg]

I keep telling some of you that big DT's that can't move do no good in this defense. Every thing the staff has shown points towards more quicker explosive D Lineman. Not sure why people are surprised by this.

Yep and the big guys that can move are projected 1st rounders at the factory schools. I'm excited to see how our DL progresses, I think we'll be deeper than people think.

 

[PhatOrange]

He must read the board

 

[money3189]

I think they can be both. When I was looking at the 335 the de were around 280 nt 300 plus. I do think bear is moving to de. His size and athleticism would be great. I know they were interested in mcdoggle from WSU in the portal. There are some other guys to add depth.

Its not a matter of what we think D lineman can do. They want their NT to be quick and explosive. It would be great If they can find a 280-300 pounder that can perform all the stunts and drops in this scheme. Which 3-3-5 did you look at? Arizona st didnt have time to recruit for the 3-3-5. They used what they had there. 90% percent of their D line is around 260-270. That is by design. Why ignore that?

 

[Keger03]

The staff seems to prefer athleticism / footwork over girth.

Also based on the last 2 years, the defense spends more time on the field than the Offense.

 

[Nāraṅga]

This was one of the 12 year olds I referred to earlier.

If I recall correctly, they didn't update roster photos until everyone got on campus in June last year.

 

[PhatOrange]

The safeties are huge. So refreshing.

The RB size wow. 5-10 205 average. Perfect. So refreshing.

The DEnds and LBs all have great size. So refreshing.

Bleich must have reshaped his body. Didn't he come in around 330 and now at 307? Same with Tisdale. Wow. I'm excited to see if the new OL coach can work some magic with guys who should be a lot stronger and able to move around.

I'm not really seeing any notable losses, Hendrix and Gouldbourne.

 

[Toga]

Aha! Mystery explained:

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It's good weight.

 

[UpstateSM]

57 players out 85 classified as freshmen

Setting up the 2023 and 2024 seasons with a chance to be special.

Hold on to these kids and the future is looking bright, again

 

[baggerbob]

*sniff sniff* I smell...back shoulder fades...

Louisville every time they've come into the dome have a 6-5 250 pound TE who when they get to mid-field. They have 3rd and anything they throw to the TE and he runs over our defense for a 1st down.

 

[CbusCuse]

Its not a matter of what we think D lineman can do. They want their NT to be quick and explosive. It would be great If they can find a 280-300 pounder that can perform all the stunts and drops in this scheme. Which 3-3-5 did you look at? Arizona st didnt have time to recruit for the 3-3-5. They used what they had there. 90% percent of their D line is around 260-270. That is by design. Why ignore that?

I do get that explosiveness is more important in our 3-3-5, it just seems to me that McKinley was able to be that guy at 291 lbs. I Just want one starter on the line to not be pushed out of the way fairly easily by large 300+ lb men. But if he can be VERY explosive at 270 lbs then It could be even better for our scheme. I guess we'll see.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

Aha! Mystery explained:

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Maybe the aspect ratio of the roster pic is off. A little extra gamesmanship from Dino and Co.

 

[tep624]

Its not a matter of what we think D lineman can do. They want their NT to be quick and explosive. It would be great If they can find a 280-300 pounder that can perform all the stunts and drops in this scheme. Which 3-3-5 did you look at? Arizona st didnt have time to recruit for the 3-3-5. They used what they had there. 90% percent of their D line is around 260-270. That is by design. Why ignore that?

I brought that point up before after Tony White first came over - people were just looking at ASU's roster and DL size and making assumptions - he was only there for 2 years and that unit had not been turned over yet completely. Getting the best use out of what you have is the present - recruiting for the system over time is the future.

And if they could get a 340 pound guy who was agile and quick - I'm sure they'd be all over him. But those guys don't fall off trees and get snapped up by the factory programs generally speaking who all battle over them.

 

[SUalldway]

Aha! Mystery explained:

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Creepy!

 

[hoopsupstate]

With the situation with the portal, it’s going to be difficult predicting future teams and rosters.

 

[007]

I keep telling some of you that big DT's that can't move do no good in this defense. Every thing the staff has shown points towards more quicker explosive D Lineman. Not sure why people are surprised by this.

Personally, being "surprised" and being concerned are not the same thing. The quicker more explosive DTs are pretty much the same guys that were getting blown off the LOS consistently all year. I understand and appreciate that the install was limited last season. I fully expect that there will be more stunts, drops, run blitzing, flexible fronts, bear fronts, hybrid schemes. I am concerned about the 1 technique guys we have being able to handle that load at the point of attack.

 

[orange79]

Garrett Shrader will not conform to your tie wearing rules or your stay in the pocket rules.

Given the color of the shirt he is wearing, I'm guessing it's a pic from Miss St.

 

[money3189]

I do get that explosiveness is more important in our 3-3-5, it just seems to me that McKinley was able to be that guy at 291 lbs. I Just want one starter on the line to not be pushed out of the way fairly easily by large 300+ lb men. But if he can be VERY explosive at 270 lbs then It could be even better for our scheme. I guess we'll see.

But it is better for the scheme. There is no could be about it. The staff wanted him to cut weight. Tony knows exactly what makes the scheme works. Its his scheme. That one starter needs to be able to do what the whole schemes needs him to do. If he happens to be 300 pounds, great.

 

[money3189]

Personally, being "surprised" and being concerned are not the same thing. The quicker more explosive DTs are pretty much the same guys that were getting blown off the LOS consistently all year. I understand and appreciate that the install was limited last season. I fully expect that there will be more stunts, drops, run blitzing, flexible fronts, bear fronts, hybrid schemes. I am concerned about the 1 technique guys we have being able to handle that load at the point of attack.

If they are concerned than they will make the necessary moves. Right now it seems like they are not.