We got a non-conference schedule for 2014...

[OrangeXtreme]

I am okay with a 1 and 1 with a MAC school. You are right, the days of the 2 for 1s are long gone. (this better be a 1 and 1 series).

It's a 2 for 1. CMU will visit the Dome in 2015 and 2017.

 

[Alsacs]

I am okay with a 1 and 1 with a MAC school. You are right, the days of the 2 for 1s are long gone. (this better be a 1 and 1 series).

We got a 2 for 1 with Central Michigan which why this deal is awesome. I agree I wish it were an easier game to get too in a better MAC recruiting spot, but any Division 1 school that wants to play us 2 for 1 I would do it if its East of Mississippi.

 

[orangepassion]

Looks like Mr. Frazier has been reading this board.

The 2014 schedule is exactly what we wanted in a non-conf schedule (barring location of CMU game.)

In the future I would schedule one of the military academies for the year we are not playing ND.

If Navy still uses the triple option, after last weekend, I don't want to go anywhere near them

 

[sutomcat]

It's a 2 for 1. CMU will visit the Dome in 2015 and 2017.

For a 2 for 1, I would gladly tolerate the less than ideal location of the away game. Scheduling this serieswas a good move and other than the unfortunate away game in Jersey against ND, I am happy with the schedule. But that was done under very different circumstances, Herm had nothing to do with it and I would hope we will never do something like that again.

Well done Herman.

 

[CuseLegacy]

For a 2 for 1, I would gladly tolerate the less than ideal location of the away game. Scheduling this serieswas a good move and other than the unfortunate away game in Jersey against ND, I am happy with the schedule. But that was done under very different circumstances, Herm had nothing to do with it and I would hope we will never do something like that again.

Well done Herman.

He is learning...

 

[im4cuse]

If Navy still uses the triple option, after last weekend, I don't want to go anywhere near them

We want to play Army or Navy to prep for GaTech. Or do you think we've mastered how to defend it by chasing them into the end zone for 60 minutes?
Plus its in our recruiting area -- moreso than Michigan. Other than Thompson, are their any Mich natives on roster?

 

[rrlbees]

For a 2 for 1, I would gladly tolerate the less than ideal location of the away game. Scheduling this serieswas a good move and other than the unfortunate away game in Jersey against ND, I am happy with the schedule. But that was done under very different circumstances, Herm had nothing to do with it and I would hope we will never do something like that again.

Well done Herman.

He's still responsible for having a 6 game home schedule again. Should have had CMU at home or go get another MAC or MAC like team to do a 2-1 with 2014 being in the Dome.


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[OrangeCrush22]

Louisville at home post bridgewater is "unlikely"?

Teddy could very well return next season. Even if he doesn't it's likely Devante Parker, Dominique Brown, and Eli Rogers return for their senior years. Their offense will still be potent with soph. Will Gardner at QB.

 

[Rocco]

Good news is that no one has penciled the CMU game as a loss... Figured they'd say we would give up 500 yards passing to them. That's a win let alone in my book!

 

[SaltineWar]

Good news is that no one has penciled the CMU game as a loss... Figured they'd say we would give up 500 yards passing to them. That's a win let alone in my book!

They got routed by NC State, so I have hope.

 

[TexanMark]

I don't know how you can "need" a road game?

I don't like the MAC arrangement. I'm a champagne drinking ACC snob who doesn't think we should be doing 2 for 1s. We're not in the BCS bottom feeder league anymore. The only school that ever visited CMU in recent history is Michigan State which is part of some Celebrate the State campaign where they're doing the directional tour.

I at least wish the years of the CMU games were announced. Feels like we got played a bit without that.

Oh well, we at least better be 2-0 for once (if 9/6 ends up being a bye).

I'm okay with 2 for 1's with MAC teams.

CMU will host Okie St and Kansas over the next few years.

BTW, looks like we have CMU in the Dome in 2015 and 2017.

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mid-amer/central-michigan-chippewas.php

 

[SUFan44]

He's still responsible for having a 6 game home schedule again. Should have had CMU at home or go get another MAC or MAC like team to do a 2-1 with 2014 being in the Dome.

2 for 1, as tomcat said, is extremely rare in this day and age. No other team in the MAC (and no other team that's FBS, for that matter) would likely take it unless there was a bit of something in it for them - in this case, a home game against an ACC opponent as their marquee game next season.

With everything he was dealt with, Frazier did as well as he could. Time to move past the games at MetLife - it is what it is.

 

[rrlbees]

2 for 1, as tomcat said, is extremely rare in this day and age. No other team in the MAC (and no other team that's FBS, for that matter) would likely take it unless there was a bit of something in it for them - in this case, a home game against an ACC opponent as their marquee game next season.

With everything he was dealt with, Frazier did as well as he could. Time to move past the games at MetLife - it is what it is.

That's because you don't mind SU getting the short end of the stick year after year after year. I have no doubt there are other teams that would do a 2-1. No doubt at all. 6 home games again. At least they got the SOS right and a weak opener. But that's still only 2 out of 3. A D+.


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[TexanMark]

That's because you don't mind SU getting the short end of the stick year after year after year. I have no doubt there are other teams that would do a 2-1. No doubt at all. 6 home games again. At least they got the SOS right and a weak opener. But that's still only 2 out of 3. A D+.

Your issue should be the MetLife Contract signed when we were in the Big East...looking back it wasn't the best call I think you're being too hard on him for 2014. I think it is about as good as we could've done.

If you want to biotch about the 2015-2018 schedules go right ahead.

My main issue is the lack of Tri-State alumni to support the MetLife games.

 

[rrlbees]

Your issue should be the MetLife COntract signed when we were in the Big East. I think you're being too hard on him for 2014. I think it is about as good as we could've done.

If you want to biotch about the 2015-2018 schedules go right ahead.

Even the game in NJ has nothing to do with not having a 7th game in the Dome. I'm still amazed at the number of people every year who are ok with SU being at a competitive disadvantage. Then they wonder why we don't win more games.


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[sutomcat]

He's still responsible for having a 6 game home schedule again. Should have had CMU at home or go get another MAC or MAC like team to do a 2-1 with 2014 being in the Dome.

I agree, this schedule is not ideal but if you look at future years, we needed the home games more in the future than in 2014. The real problem for 2014 is the ND game at MetLife.

My ideal schedule rotation works like this:

7 home games, 8 home games, 8 home games. Rinse and repeat indefinitely.

Here is how it would break down:

4 home games in conference
2 home games from OOC home and home series
1 home game from a D1AA school
and a home game 2 of of every 3 years based on a 2 for 1 series with MAC or MAC-level schools

If we have to play a game in MetLife, it should be during one of the years we would otherwise have played 8 home games (move a game that would have been played at home to MetLife but stay at 7 home games that season because of the 'bonus' home game from a MAC 2 for 1).

If we play at MetLife every 3 years, our home schedule would rotate as 7 home, 8 home, 7 home. Would only do games at MetLife from this point forward if they are part of a 1-1-1 arrangement and only as a last resort to get a team we really want in the Dome to agree to come here.

The goal should be that we never, ever play less than 7 home games in a single season.

That being said, I think it is unlikely we will be able to consistently schedule 2 for 1 with MAC level/service academy level schools, even with the fundamental changes happening with scheduling (I think it is all being driven by some of the big conferences going to 9 conference games).

If/when we sign 1 for 1 agreements with MAC/MAC level programs, it means we can't consider going to MetLife those years.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the MetLife agreement given the poor attendance numbers for the first two games and the departure of DM, who was extremely pro games at MetLife.

 

[Chris02M]

I figured we would be playing away as last OOC game since we could afford to play away next year with the good home slate next year: Villanova, Maryland, Duke, Louisville, NC State, Florida State. If we play a conference game 9/6 id expect it to be at home vs nc state/duke. Hopefully florida state will be in October with Louisville in November .

 

[JeremyCuse]

I agree, this schedule is not ideal but if you look at future years, we needed the home games more in the future than in 2014. The real problem for 2014 is the ND game at MetLife.

My ideal schedule rotation works like this:

7 home games, 8 home games, 8 home games. Rinse and repeat indefinitely.

Here is how it would break down:

4 home games in conference
2 home games from OOC home and home series
1 home game from a D1AA school
and a home game 2 of of every 3 years based on a 2 for 1 series with MAC or MAC-level schools

If we have to play a game in MetLife, it should be during one of the years we would otherwise have played 8 home games (move a game that would have been played at home to MetLife but stay at 7 home games that season because of the 'bonus' home game from a MAC 2 for 1).

If we play at MetLife every 3 years, our home schedule would rotate as 7 home, 8 home, 7 home. Would only do games at MetLife from this point forward if they are part of a 1-1-1 arrangement and only as a last resort to get a team we really want in the Dome to agree to come here.

The goal should be that we never, ever play less than 7 home games in a single season.

That being said, I think it is unlikely we will be able to consistently schedule 2 for 1 with MAC level/service academy level schools, even with the fundamental changes happening with scheduling (I think it is all being driven by some of the big conferences going to 9 conference games).

If/when we sign 1 for 1 agreements with MAC/MAC level programs, it means we can't consider going to MetLife those years.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the MetLife agreement given the poor attendance numbers for the first two games and the departure of DM, who was extremely pro games at MetLife.

They cant scrap that Metlife contract fast enough. The first year was a fun and even this past years was a good time but the attendance hasnt been great, we havent won either game and the novelty is starting to wear off. Next years attendance could be particularly bad from an SU standpoint as I think a lot of locals are starting to question spending $500 to A 1G for a weekend on a game that should be played at home.

 

[rrlbees]

I agree, this schedule is not ideal but if you look at future years, we needed the home games more in the future than in 2014. The real problem for 2014 is the ND game at MetLife.

My ideal schedule rotation works like this:

7 home games, 8 home games, 8 home games. Rinse and repeat indefinitely.

Here is how it would break down:

4 home games in conference
2 home games from OOC home and home series
1 home game from a D1AA school
and a home game 2 of of every 3 years based on a 2 for 1 series with MAC or MAC-level schools

If we have to play a game in MetLife, it should be during one of the years we would otherwise have played 8 home games (move a game that would have been played at home to MetLife but stay at 7 home games that season because of the 'bonus' home game from a MAC 2 for 1).

If we play at MetLife every 3 years, our home schedule would rotate as 7 home, 8 home, 7 home. Would only do games at MetLife from this point forward if they are part of a 1-1-1 arrangement and only as a last resort to get a team we really want in the Dome to agree to come here.

The goal should be that we never, ever play less than 7 home games in a single season.

That being said, I think it is unlikely we will be able to consistently schedule 2 for 1 with MAC level/service academy level schools, even with the fundamental changes happening with scheduling (I think it is all being driven by some of the big conferences going to 9 conference games).

If/when we sign 1 for 1 agreements with MAC/MAC level programs, it means we can't consider going to MetLife those years.

It will be interesting to see what happens to the MetLife agreement given the poor attendance numbers for the first two games and the departure of DM, who was extremely pro games at MetLife.

Could you please apply for the SU scheduling job when it becomes open?


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[Chris02M]

id expect 7 home games from 2015 on as the 2016 game at metlife should be a nd neutral game since the 2014 is considered a home game for us 2016 should be shamrock series game maybe that nd does every year?

 

[Chris02M]

id expect 7 home games from 2015 on as the 2016 game at metlife should be a nd neutral game since the 2014 is considered a home game for us 2016 should be shamrock series game maybe that nd does every year?

 

[TexanMark]

Even the game in NJ has nothing to do with not having a 7th game in the Dome. I'm still amazed at the number of people every year who are ok with SU being at a competitive disadvantage. Then they wonder why we don't win more games.

We are at a competitive disadvantage because we average 39k Paid seats a game. We can't buy opponents for $1M like the really Big Boys. Getting a 2 for 1 from a MAC/CUSA/SunBelt school is reality.

 

[Chris02M]

id expect 7 home games from 2015 on as the 2016 game at metlife should be a nd neutral game since the 2014 is considered a home game for us 2016 should be shamrock series game maybe that nd does every year?

 

[Alsacs]

They cant scrap that Metlife contract fast enough. The first year was a fun and even this past years was a good time but the attendance hasnt been great, we havent won either game and the novelty is starting to wear off. Next years attendance could be particularly bad from an SU standpoint as I think a lot of locals are starting to question spending $500 to A 1G for a weekend on a game that should be played at home.

This is how I feel 100%. I went to the Penn State game but don't want to continue with these dumb games. Next year's attendance at Metlife will be at best 25k SU fans and 46k ND fans for an SU home game. This crap has to stop NOW and nobody will have stones to question Dr. Gross to see if SU will control the tickets to the ND game. When Gross and co. let Metlife sell our home game to ND fans I will be writing Gross a pissed off letter and will be thank him for pissing on his season ticket holders so ND can give us the privilege of filling up our home game.

 

[Chris02M]

as for conference opponents that could play 9/6 here they are @bc, @pit, @wake, NC State, Louisville,