Week 5 ACC/FBS Games for Sept 26-28

[DomeHolmes]

Rutgers with the win over depleted Washington. Easy schedule for them this year. They’re going to have a good record.

Looks like they will play one ranked team (USC) all year. Washington went up and down the field on them all day long, out gained Rutgers by 225 yards. Rutgers hasn’t beat a ranked team in over 10 years, but always seem to get the breaks in the 50-50 games. This one was a comedy of errors by Washington, (terrible coaching, time management and play calling) lots of help from the refs, and the timekeeper.

-3 missed field goals. (2 chip shots)

-Had first and goal from the seven, no points due to horrendous playcalling

-7 of Rutgers points came because a Washington player ran on the field
to celebrate too early on the blocked kick

-7 more points came after a phantom facemask that clearly was not on replay. Rutgers would’ve been third and long deep in their own territory.

-inexplicably let 20 seconds tick off the clock before the two minute time out without running a play, down 11.

-the timekeeper on the last Washington drive kept letting an extra few seconds tick off the clock and the refs did nothing about it. I was screaming about it and finally the rules expert chimed at the end to say the timekeeper should be fired because he was doing a terrible job all day. He was cheating Washington out of precious seconds on purpose.

this insanely lucky performance will go down in Rutgers history up there with the Louisville game back in 2006. lol. But when they play anyone good, they will lose.

 

[Arangeman]

I think they made the right call. There was one angle that showed the ball jostling around. It was definitely close and I can see saying it should’ve been a TD. But I don’t think the receiver had it secured for long enough.

Not about making the right call. Was there enough evidence to overturn the call on the field?

 

[upperdeck]

Looks like they will play one ranked team (USC) all year. Washington went up and down the field on them all day long, out gained Rutgers by 225 yards. Rutgers hasn’t beat a ranked team in over 10 years, but always seem to get the breaks in the 50-50 games. This one was a comedy of errors by Washington, (terrible coaching, time management and play calling) lots of help from the refs, and the timekeeper.

-3 missed field goals. (2 chip shots)

-Had first and goal from the seven, no points due to horrendous playcalling

-7 of Rutgers points came because a Washington player ran on the field
to celebrate too early on the blocked kick

-7 more points came after a phantom facemask that clearly was not on replay. Rutgers would’ve been third and long deep in their own territory.

-inexplicably let 20 seconds tick off the clock before the two minute time out without running a play, down 11.

-the timekeeper on the last Washington drive kept letting an extra few seconds tick off the clock and the refs did nothing about it. I was screaming about it and finally the rules expert chimed at the end to say the timekeeper should be fired because he was doing a terrible job all day. He was cheating Washington out of precious seconds on purpose.

this insanely lucky performance will go down in Rutgers history up there with the Louisville game back in 2006. lol. But when they play anyone good, they will lose.

was that the same ref who called the facemask on the giants last night?

 

[Scooch]

Not about making the right call. Was there enough evidence to overturn the call on the field?

Yeah I think the angle I referenced was enough evidence.

 

[upperdeck]

its a tough game

Rutgers does next to nothing gets a ton of breaks and pulls one out
Miami plays dumb all game gives scores away then loses and the refs give it back

SU cant get a stop on 4th down when we need it but no one gifts us a win.

 

[FloridaCuse]

What’s the rule if you come down on a player that is laying out of bounds? It looked to me as if the receiver that caught the ball was laying on a guy that was out of bounds.

I totally agree. This should have been the reason it was incomplete. I can't believe none of the experts on TV knew that. Nor any of the sportswriters I've seen post-game on X.

 

[Chip]

Hopefully this works out for us. VT falls apart and that’s the game we really need to win.

Have I ever mentioned how much I hate VT?

 

[upperdeck]

I totally agree. This should have been the reason it was incomplete. I can't believe none of the experts on TV knew that. Nor any of the sportswriters I've seen post-game on X.

being on a player who is out of bounds doesnt make you OB

 

[FloridaCuse]

being on a player who is out of bounds doesnt make you OB

Why not? How is it any different than coming down on the OB line?

 

[upperdeck]

Why not? How is it any different than coming down on the OB line?

just saying what i read in the rules. OB is the ground or an object, I guess players are not objects?

 

[orangenauburn]

Mercy! That’s a lot of prognosticating. But you’re 1-0 after last night!

Scoreboard update, 3-0.

But I'll get molly whopped today

 

[690West]

Scoreboard update, 3-0.

But I'll get molly whopped today

What a glorious start for the 13021!

 

[hoopsupstate]

just saying what i read in the rules. OB is the ground or an object, I guess players are not objects?

Why do they call it out of bounds when a player touches the ball while they are out of bounds with the ball in the playing field? That makes no sense. This happens all the time when there is a fumble near the sidelines.

 

[Newhouser]

I wish our oline RBlock as well as Armys

I wish our whole team was as physical as Army's.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Entropic]

You can't tell for sure the ball is loose until after the VT player was also down. So either the ball was not possessed at all or it was. The Miami player racked it out after being on the ground but the play would have been dead already.

 

[orangenauburn]

What a glorious start for the 13021!

If the bologna I predicted happens, my $5 bet will return $13k

That's how you know it won't happen.

 

[All4SU]

They should have an open mic in the Charlotte Review Center.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Is that really the rule though? For a loose ball on the ground, sure. But a pass? So if a WR and DB are on the sideline at the 40 and the DB reaches around while his one foot is out of bounds, he falls to the ground and the ball pops up, the WR catches it and runs for a TD and it is incomplete? I call BS.


Edit

And look at the wording they use. The ball isn’t loose unless there was first possession. If there was possession it is a TD can’t fumble part the goaline.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Is that really the rule though? For a loose ball on the ground, sure. But a pass? So if a WR and DB are on the sideline at the 40 and the DB reaches around while his one foot is out of bounds, he falls to the ground and the ball pops up, the WR catches it and runs for a TD and it is incomplete? I call BS.

Syracuse had a fumble recovery overturned last year because an opposing player touched the ball while his foot was out of bounds, killing the play.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Syracuse had a fumble recovery overturned last year because an opposing player touched the ball while his foot was out of bounds, killing the play.

Yes, that is the rule for a ball on the ground (fumble/loose). The ball wasn’t in this case. It was still “in the air” as it was a pass.

 

[richmondcuse03]

Yes, that is the rule for a ball on the ground (fumble/loose). The ball wasn’t in this case. It was still “in the air” as it was a pass.

I think it still applies, no? If a receiver has a foot out of bands and touches a pass being thrown to him, it's out of bounds. Same thing applies to a defender. I guess you could argue it's illegal touching though.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

I think it still applies, no? If a receiver has a foot out of bands and touches a pass being thrown to him, it's out of bounds. Same thing applies to a defender. I guess you could argue it's illegal touching though.

In that case it wouldn’t it be illegal touching and if the defender then intercepted the ball after the touch they decline the penalty? Or is it incomplete? Never see it happen.

The ACC explanation is too vague.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

So I asked a ref I know and he said yes pass touched by player while out of bounds it is incomplete. Seems crazy that being the rule.

ACC should have said by rule if a pass is touched by an out of bounds player before possession is gained by either team, it is incomplete. Loose ball implies fumble.

 

[bpo57]

Would have been nice for the ref to explain that after the review. He just said the call was reversed and then hightailed it off the field.