West Coast Trip Game 1 PostGame

[Scott11]

The first 10 minutes of the game were an offensive analytics nightmare. We took incredibly difficult two point shots. We did not come close to drawing a foul. We did not make any effort to drive to the basket or move without the ball.
Davis is the epitome of this team. Once in a while he does something nice and he tries hard, but he simply is not good enough to play at this level. You can basically say that about the majority of our roster.
The amount of moving screens we have on this team is indefensible. Just an embarrassment to give away the ball like that. And somehow it doesn’t get fixed.
I’ve never been a fan but at this point it’s almost inhumane not to feel bad for Bell. He has absolutely no confidence and he’s as tight as a drum with the ball. It doesn’t reflect well on anybody how much he has regressed.
In a season of unprecedented lows, I think this might’ve been the worst. We had two guys come out of the stands to call the game in a half empty high school gym getting beat by a bunch of absolute stiffs. A long way from Big Monday and seemingly getting farther.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

We were down 17-0 and Cuffe came in, got a block and scored our first points. He played aggressively. When he entered, he became the first player to do anything that resembled off-the-ball action, cutting as if he were part of an actual basketball play.

Unfortunately, his game still isn’t polished, and he makes mistakes as often as he makes good plays.

Cuffe should probably start.

 

[sweetpea]

The ship be sinking.

Of course the reply. "How low will it go?" "The sky is the limit."
Micheal Ray Richardson

 

[Irishsecra1]

Cuffe acted like a spark plug and got points. Our first points in the game!
And played aggressively.
Yet only plays 8 minutes in total.
Doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense to me.

 

[hoopsupstate]

After every game Red always says, “ we talked about this or that.” Stop talking about it and show them how to do it. It’s the same old thing after every game. Change the starting line up with some energy guys instead of the same old ploppers who have been starting the game. Start Petar and Cuff and sit Davis and Moore. Taylor has almost been as bad for several games.

 

[Janner]

These slow starts game after game after game is 100% coaching. JB would either call a quick timeout and/or light up the team, set up a play or adjust the zone defense, yell at a kid that wasn't moving or took a bad shot or turned over the ball... Red does nothing. Litteraly nothing. He rarely even opens his mouth the first 3-4 min. This is happening game after game. The dude is just not high D1 head coach material and needs to be gone yesterday. Its as plain as day

 

[Irishsecra1]

We were down 17-0 and Cuffe came in, got a block and scored our first points. He played aggressively. When he entered, he became the first player to do anything that resembled off-the-ball action, cutting as if he were part of an actual basketball play.

Unfortunately, his game still isn’t polished, and he makes mistakes as often as he makes good plays.

I dare say he would play better if he got more consistent playing time.
Red treats him like a human yo-yo.

 

[Cramz]

It still confounds me that we don't put anyone up to contest for rebounds when we shoot free throws. As bad as we are at converting, it seems like an obvious thing we would do to mitigate our shortcoming. Also, teams are allowed to run plays during the regular flow of play, right??? Does Red know this?? We only seem to do that after TOs, and with some success. But during the regular flow? No, just Eddie pick the on-ball defender, dribble around, pass to Eddie, dribble handoff, launch a depseration jumper or dangerous cross court pass. Difficult to watch.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

We should look to do one of two things on offense for our first 3 or 4 possessions.

First, get out in transition.

Second, feed Lampkin in the post and let him operate to get himself a bucket or move the ball.

That's it. No more Davis isos. No more hot potato on the perimeter with Taylor, Choppa, and JJ.

Get to the basket.

 

[Cuse12]

Cuffe acted like a spark plug and got points. Our first points in the game!
And played aggressively.
Yet only plays 8 minutes in total.
Doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense to me.

It makes no sense. With this particular team I feel it’s good to send a message that even though “skill” wise a player may be deficient in comparison, but the guy laying out for loose balls, driving hard to the rim, and giving his all on defense - that man will play. It won’t fix the overall problem of this team, but it at least will send a message of what’s expected in reds program.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Bell with 0 rebounds

 

[kcsu]

After watching last night debacle i believe that our best O is to play three guards.

But Red wont do that at the start so based on each game this year here is my starting lineup.

1 Cuffe
2 JJ
3 Bell
4 Davis
5 Dry Hump

I believe this team should start. If Bell is off or if Hump doesn't make sense based on the other team's lineup replace them with Taylor and Petar. Carlos is the next G to play.

Bottom line is we have a weak team. Coaches and talent are bad. Red will get another year but only because of behind-the-scenes issues and Melo not because he deserves it.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

First I’ll state that I liked the fight.. or at least that they didn’t pack it in totally.

Pick and roll defense and lack of any backside slides was left wanting. This created numerous barely contested layups during pivotal times. Also the reason our steals and blocks are at historical lows. It’s unacceptable and looks like middle school defense.

On defense I tend to blame the players. They are the ones that need to communicate, move and have some iota of positioning. Offense has to be the coaches. Movement off the ball and passing is the way to play. We saw some positives when the ball runs through Petar (similar to Marek). The team reminds me of the Jeff Capel early years at Pitt. Some talent but dysfunctional and you don’t know who is at fault.

Dcuse are you listening? This is a good addendum to our exchange in the Fennell thread.

 

[Fly Rodder]

Bell with 0 rebounds

He did have two assists which broke an 8 game streak with zero.

 

[Irishsecra1]

It makes no sense. With this particular team I feel it’s good to send a message that even though “skill” wise a player may be deficient in comparison, but the guy laying out for loose balls, driving hard to the rim, and giving his all on defense - that man will play. It won’t fix the overall problem of this team, but it at least will send a message of what’s expected in reds program.

Seriously, this is one reason why players on this team just don't give their all. Play their hearts out with a never give up attitude.
Why should they? That kind of playing is not being rewarded, Cuffe is the poster child for that!
And another reason why our MTM is normally a joke.

 

[cusefan88]

The defense is terrible, might as well open up in a full court press to get some speed and tempo in the game.

 

[Orangezoo]

Sad to say didn’t even realize we had a game last night and saw we lost this morning. Just a sad season and state of the program.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

I had a dream that I checked the score in the morning and we somehow found a way to lose 43-25, so I'll take this.

 

[JaySU22]

It’s just brutal how we get no easy buckets since our defense doesn’t do anything to force turnovers and get us in transition. Yet we ignite the other teams’s offense with our bumbling passes or when Eddie just hot dog’s it with an ill advised behind the back pass.

 

[Doc5120]

Cuffe should probably start.

I never question his effort. He seems to play hard at all times. Can't say that about everyone on the team, unfortunately.

 

[phil77]

People who claim these kids play hard I challenge you to go back and watch the second-half comeback against ND all 20 minutes of it and come back and tell me that the kids play hard every game. That second half proved to me there is much more in this team than Red isn't getting out of it. Those 20 minutes the kids played hard and intense and most of us regardless of win or loss we all were proud of the effort and we would be proud if they played like that every game but they don't.

Other posters claim "kids want to play for Red" but clearly they don't show it on the court.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Down 25-2 to start, was that it? Never prepared. It seems like either our scouting reports are awful or Red can not motivate/inspire his guys at the start.

I guess he can make an adjustment after about 8 mins in but thats not a strategy to dig a hole like that.

Carlos was the leading scorer? That was not the gameplan.

Were not developing Elijah Moore. Hes one of Red's recruits, if he cant develop his players what hope does that give towards next year?

Who is improving? Petar? anyone else?

3rd year is just delaying the rebuild or reset with hopefully a real experienced head coach.

 

[Dcuse]

Dcuse are you listening? This is a good addendum to our exchange in the Fennell thread.

So glad you're around to teach me the game. All this time I thought the inability to jump and deflect the basketball and inability to jump high enough to get above the rim and throw the ball down had to do with height and athletic ability. It's been coaching the whole time. The next coach will have the team sit indian style around the key while he shows them how to dunk the ball. We'll just have to gut it out til he or she gets here.

 

[RF2044]

Yikes. 25-2 start?! How??? Also playing Stanford in basketball so late is so stupid for our fans. What a dumb conference.

They came out hot, but mostly it was just us taking poor shots / playing iso 1-on-1.

We went the first 7 minutes of the game scoreless. They scored the first 16 points [or whatever], and we had ZERO. It wouldn't have been that unreasonable to give up 16 in the first 7 minutes, but when you don't get a point in the first 7 minutes of the game, you are toast.

 

[bigmike]

Of course the reply. "How low will it go?" "The sky is the limit."
Micheal Ray Richardson

Well done on the spelling of Micheal. Suspect it’s a boomer subtlety. Details matter. Highlight of my read through.