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Alsacs said:
What i would say to GMac is there is no way Jimmy III deserves as many minutes with the same rope not being given to Benny.

Benny can struggle in practice it doesn’t mean he shouldn’t get 10-12 MPG.
Just for defense and to take the starters fresh.
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He has zero offense (most attempts are elbow jumpers which never go in) and hasn’t shown anything that remotely suggests he’d be a plus factor in the second half of competitive games. If people say Benny should get more minutes In blowouts ok, but P5 basketball isn’t AYSO.
Jimmy III is unathletic and doesn’t rebound well but we’ve won some games because of him; games we wouldn’t have won with Benny getting his minutes.
 
Willy75 said:
He has zero offense (most attempts are elbow jumpers which never go in) and hasn’t shown anything that remotely suggests he’d be a plus factor in the second half of competitive games. If people say Benny should get more minutes In blowouts ok, but P5 basketball isn’t AYSO.
Jimmy III is unathletic and doesn’t rebound well but we’ve won some games because of him; games we wouldn’t have won with Benny getting his minutes.
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Last night Benny had a couple of nice tips in the zone but he also throws up one horrendous shot a game and bobbles a pass or rebound. He also has to learn that at the college level you need to haul buns from one end of the court to the other, he jogs too much. Needs to play with more energy which may not be in his personality but he needs to bring it for every second he is out there.
 
Willy75 said:
He has zero offense (most attempts are elbow jumpers which never go in) and hasn’t shown anything that remotely suggests he’d be a plus factor in the second half of competitive games. If people say Benny should get more minutes In blowouts ok, but P5 basketball isn’t AYSO.
Jimmy III is unathletic and doesn’t rebound well but we’ve won some games because of him; games we wouldn’t have won with Benny getting his minutes.
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Jimmy made back to back buckets last night that Benny has zero chances of making. He hit the corner three and then drove from the wing for a layup. Benny can’t make either play. Benny doesn’t rebound or finish. Jimmy gets lost on defense, but there’s no comparing their offensive games. Jr. had quite a few offensive out backs too. When do you ever see Benny anywhere near the rim? I hope Benny gets it’s together, but he’s too much of a gamble to play many minutes.
 
I listened to Benny on the radio yesterday afternoon and he admitted he has to focus more at practice and play with more energy. Listening to him on the radio he sounded like someone with zero energy. He’s just not ready and he knows it.
 
Willy75 said:
He has zero offense (most attempts are elbow jumpers which never go in) and hasn’t shown anything that remotely suggests he’d be a plus factor in the second half of competitive games. If people say Benny should get more minutes In blowouts ok, but P5 basketball isn’t AYSO.
Jimmy III is unathletic and doesn’t rebound well but we’ve won some games because of him; games we wouldn’t have won with Benny getting his minutes.
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Jimmy against ACC athletes has kiled our defense.
His transition defense is brutal to be kind.
We need some athleticism. Swider when he is on should play more thsn Jimmy.

Jimmy get buckets and gives up more on defense.
We don’t Benny to give any offense. This isn’t the NBA we can play 1 non offense threat. Hell Jb has played 2 non offensive threats at the same time in the past.

Not one other P6 coach in the country plays Jimmy 20 minutes in the first half and Benny 2 minutes.
 
jdubs30 said:
Took my son to the UConn-Creighton game last night (I know, I know - but he went with his basketball team). UConn looked awful. But anyway -

UConn has 3 freshman - Samson Johnson (41st ranked recruit in 2021). Jordan Hawkins (59th), and Rahsool Diggins (58th).

Diggins and Johnson didn’t play at all. Hawkins played 6 minutes and went 0/3 from the field and didn’t see the floor at all in the 2H until about 20 seconds left when they were down 4 and needed 3s.

This UConn roster isn’t exactly good either (except for Sanogo), and in a game where that scored 55pts at home as a 10pt favorite, they had 2 top 60 freshman who didn’t even take off their warmups.

It’s not just not Benny
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Exactly. I love Benny’s potential, and he’s now bringing good defensive energy and hustle off the bench. I think he’ll continue to improve and be more of a contributor next season, and can continue to give us solid sub minutes this season. But right now he brings little on the offensive end, and it’s not like he’s Roberson yet on the boards. People need to calm down about his playing time. This is not a Kadary situation. If Woody had stayed, he’d been getting more minutes than Benny.
 
Alsacs said:
Jimmy against ACC athletes has kiled our defense.
His transition defense is brutal to be kind.
We need some athleticism. Swider when he is on should play more thsn Jimmy.

Jimmy get buckets and gives up more on defense.
We don’t Benny to give any offense. This isn’t the NBA we can play 1 non offense threat. Hell Jb has played 2 non offensive threats at the same time in the past.

Not one other P6 coach in the country plays Jimmy 20 minutes in the first half and Benny 2 minutes.
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Other than Jesse and sometimes Frank none of our defenders are any good. Benny is getting exactly the minutes he has earned. The playing time “controversy” is more about the 5 star pre-season hype than anything else.
 
Alsacs said:
Jimmy against ACC athletes has kiled our defense.
His transition defense is brutal to be kind.
We need some athleticism. Swider when he is on should play more thsn Jimmy.

Jimmy get buckets and gives up more on defense.
We don’t Benny to give any offense. This isn’t the NBA we can play 1 non offense threat. Hell Jb has played 2 non offensive threats at the same time in the past.

Not one other P6 coach in the country plays Jimmy 20 minutes in the first half and Benny 2 minutes.
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If Braswell stayed with the team I don't think Benny would get any minutes at all.
 
Willy75 said:
Other than Jesse and sometimes Frank none of our defenders are any good. Benny is getting exactly the minutes he has earned. The playing time “controversy” is more about the 5 star pre-season hype than anything else.
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The playing time he has deserved?
Based on this he deserved more minutes against Wake but his HC wanted to give Jimmy the entire second half in that game when he wasn’t better than Benny.

It amazing how defense used to matter. It doesn’t now and we all know why. It’s ridiculous how it makes you a hater to say the HC is clearly using different standards and some people will defend the Hc even when this is clear as day.
 
"Hes too much of a gamble to play"

Yeah we wouldn't want to mess with our .500 record.

Some people get it, some don't. No use in arguing anymore. Jim wants to score 90 points and then act confused when the defense is atrocious. Some seem to be ok with it...*shrug*
 
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Alsacs said:
The playing time he has deserved?
Based on this he deserved more minutes against Wake but his HC wanted to give Jimmy the entire second half in that game when he wasn’t better than Benny.

It amazing how defense used to matter. It doesn’t now and we all know why. It’s ridiculous how it makes you a hater to say the HC is clearly using different standards and some people will defend the Hc even when this is clear as day.
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Didn’t say you’re a hater, just disagree with your pov on this We won Wake no.2 right, and should have won Wake no1 but for a play on which Benny would have made no difference.
 
Alsacs said:
Who would lose minutes if Braswell stayed Swider or Edwards?
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Good question. I'd hate to think that having another forward that can make a shot would lead to Jimmy getting time at the 5. But I'd hate even more for us to score less just so Benny can get 15 minutes a game. We need every point we can muster.
 
maxxyz said:
Good question. I'd hate to think that having another forward that can make a shot would lead to Jimmy getting time at the 5. But I'd hate even more for us to score less just so Benny can get 15 minutes a game. We need every point we can muster.
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No...no ...we don’t.

this EXACT same argument was used last year to not play Jesse and others. stopping the other team from scoring is just as important as scoring.
 
maxxyz said:
I would disagree with that. He wouldn't have started but I think he would be first off the bench.
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The fact that you even acknowledge he would be coming off the bench is damning enough.
 
SUbear said:
Minute for minute played Jimmy has produced more than Benny, Bennys offense has been terrible, defense mediocre. Acknowledging that Jimmy has defensive failings, he still on balance outperforms Benny currently.
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you can acknowledge that Jimmy outperforms Benny and not think he should play 35 mins a game.

Jimmy “produces” in that he plays a lot of minutes on a 500 team.

The same way Kaleb Joseph produced when he started on a bad team
 
SUbear said:
Minute for minute played Jimmy has produced more than Benny, Bennys offense has been terrible, defense mediocre. Acknowledging that Jimmy has defensive failings, he still on balance outperforms Benny currently.
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It's hard to compare the two when the playing time has been so lopsided. I think that with more time on the court, Benny would settle in and be much more productive than he currently is. I believe that he would give us something different than what Jimmy is providing. That is my believe after watching a ton of him in high school. It doesn't make me right. We wouldn't know unless it happened. People saying that Benny gives us nothing is ridiculous. Watch how he moves on defense and tell me you don't see a difference between he and the other forwards. That pull up jumper is almost there. He had a horrible hitch in it, but the last one he shot looked pretty good. And, he can get it pretty much anytime he wants. It can become a weapon. He is getting close, and with every minute he plays he gets closer. It's a tough call in close games, but when guys need a breather, then get him in for a couple of minutes. There are plenty of other guys to take shots. You tell Benny to get out there and play hard for a few minutes, concentrate on defense and rebounding and if you get an offensive rebound go for the putback.
 
Jimmy is an offensive threat. Benny is not. Gotta play Jimmy and live with his defense because he can score. Benny is a non-factor on offense.
 
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