When will Chris Bleich receive an NCAA waiver?

[RF2044]

My only point is that NCAA is made up of its members so the idea that the P5 “breaking away” would solve all of the inefficiencies and other issues is kind of far-fetched.

I’m far from the biggest fan of the NCAA but, like most things, it’s not as bad as those who hate it make it out to be. We’ve gotten shafted by them before so ‘Cuse fans have more disdain than most and I get that. But I’d rather stick with the status quo (assuming NLI and immediate transfers happen) than risk uprooting the system completely.

I disagree -- if anything, the NCAA is every bit as bad [if not worse] than those who hate it make it out to be. And their hypocrisy continues to burgeon with each new scandal that comes to light, let alone every time Mark Emmert opens his mouth.

 

[Orijinal]

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MEDICAL PART!

MOST of us here are wondering why Bleich's transfer hasn't been approved when multiple QBs that went to an SEC school already had theirs approved; especially when they applied a long time after he did. So transparency would be nice.

It's because Bleich's last name starts with the last letter in the alpha ...oh wait.

 

[DeGrozz]

It's because Bleich's last name starts with the last letter in the alpha ...oh wait.

They started going from Z to A to prevent alphabetic biases in their neutral processes.

 

[bnoro]

Nice redirect...Ok, I'd like to know why Bleich's waiver is still outstanding too. Ok??

It wasn't a redirection at all. There should be transparency on why a waiver is granted to a player, and why a waiver is still pending.

If it is medically related, the term "medically related" should be used, and then there's no issues with HIPA. Of course the medical reason shouldn't be disclosed. You missed the core concept, no idea why you're fighting a battle about a innocuous point.

 

[Orijinal]

Here's my theory: the NCAA just needs more time to find holes in the waiver request, because they are microscopically difficult to find.

They have to bring in the right tools and read it again and again to find what they are looking for.

Then, when they find it, they need more time to write a half-compelling argument for their rejection

 

[OrangeXtreme]

The NCAA said...

Quit your bitchin',
We gave you Alan Griffin.

 

[PhatOrange]

I'd like the transparency so we can know why one is granted and why one is not.

Why was Joey Yellen at Pitt (transfer from ASU and from Mission Vejo, CA) and JT Daniels at Georgia (transfer from USC and from Santa Ana, CA) granted immediate eligibility when others are not; like Tristan Jackson.

That's the transparency I want to see. There should be set criteria, you either check the boxes or you don't. We have no idea why one is granted and one is not.

 

[upperdeck]

if nothing else they should be able to explain the time line, days weeks months time differences.

 

[hoopsupstate]

My take only! If they cancel the season he will become eligible. If they play, he won’t. The NCAA is just Going to wait it out.

 

[dasher]

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE MEDICAL PART!

MOST of us here are wondering why Bleich's transfer hasn't been approved when multiple QBs that went to an SEC school already had theirs approved; especially when they applied a long time after he did. So transparency would be nice.

I'm getting sick and tired of you trying to get at medical reports. You ru..

 

[RF2044]

My take only! If they cancel the season he will become eligible. If they play, he won’t. The NCAA is just Going to wait it out.

Given the NCAAs track record, I don't think it is unreasonable to suggest that they may have engineered the global COVID-19 pandemic just to prevent Bleich from seeing the field this year.

 

[Cusedad2X]

It wasn't a redirection at all. There should be transparency on why a waiver is granted to a player, and why a waiver is still pending.

If it is medically related, the term "medically related" should be used, and then there's no issues with HIPA. Of course the medical reason shouldn't be disclosed. You missed the core concept, no idea why you're fighting a battle about a innocuous point.

How about NOBODY should be commenting on a pending case. If Mr. Bleich knows and wants to speak...let him. I would assume like the coaches and Mr. Bleich , the NCAA has no interest or duty to discuss a pending case. Both likely have been advised not to comment. There's the core concept you seem to have missed.

 

[721Comstock]

How about NOBODY should be commenting on a pending case. If Mr. Bleich knows and wants to speak...let him. I would assume like the coaches and Mr. Bleich , the NCAA has no interest or duty to discuss a pending case. Both likely have been advised not to comment. There's the core concept you seem to have missed.

It’s been like 10 months now!!

WHY IS IT STILL “PENDING”???!!!!

There have been literally DOZENS of other players who transferred out after Bleich did, who applied for a waiver after he did, and who had it approved already.

We didn’t even know Alan Griffin was a person who existed 4 months ago, yet he’s had his waiver approved already.

 

[orange79]

How about NOBODY should be commenting on a pending case. If Mr. Bleich knows and wants to speak...let him. I would assume like the coaches and Mr. Bleich , the NCAA has no interest or duty to discuss a pending case. Both likely have been advised not to comment. There's the core concept you seem to have missed.

Well, it's an internet message board.

And expecting the NCAA to provide explanations on the criteria for granting or denying a waiver is not outside reason.

 

[Cusedad2X]

Well, it's an internet message board.

And expecting the NCAA to provide explanations on the criteria for granting or denying a waiver is not outside reason.

And to "think" maybe HIPA circumstances might apply here is not out reason for believing why the NCAA won't comment. Does the NCAA want additional documentation?? Do they have conflicting medical info?? Florida said he was ok to play??? Just wondering out loud...See below>>>
Bleich clarified that the situation he “wasn’t able to control” was a reference to injuries that he “didn’t have a choice” but to play through at UF. He declined to share all the details of his waiver request, but noted that family hardship is one of multiple factors.

 

[orange79]

And to "think" maybe HIPA circumstances might apply here is not out reason for believing why the NCAA won't comment. Does the NCAA want additional documentation?? Do they have conflicting medical info?? Florida said he was ok to play??? Just wondering out loud...See below>>>
Bleich clarified that the situation he “wasn’t able to control” was a reference to injuries that he “didn’t have a choice” but to play through at UF. He declined to share all the details of his waiver request, but noted that family hardship is one of multiple factors.

Not sure what point you are trying to make. You're all over the board.

My point, and bnoro's point, was that it isn't unreasonable for the NCAA to state what factors into their decision to grant or deny waivers.

Do you disagree with that?

 

[RF2044]

And to "think" maybe HIPA circumstances might apply here is not out reason for believing why the NCAA won't comment. Does the NCAA want additional documentation?? Do they have conflicting medical info?? Florida said he was ok to play??? Just wondering out loud...See below>>>
Bleich clarified that the situation he “wasn’t able to control” was a reference to injuries that he “didn’t have a choice” but to play through at UF. He declined to share all the details of his waiver request, but noted that family hardship is one of multiple factors.

being transparent about the criteria that goes into the decision making process is not the same as them divulging specific details about each case.

 

[SUbear]

It’s been like 10 months now!!

WHY IS IT STILL “PENDING”???!!!!

There have been literally DOZENS of other players who transferred out after Bleich did, who applied for a waiver after he did, and who had it approved already.

We didn’t even know Alan Griffin was a person who existed 4 months ago, yet he’s had his waiver approved already.

Totally agree, plenty of time for either yea or nay. This kind of delay, in ruling, is what is both suspicious and ridiculous.

 

[Cusedad2X]

Not sure what point you are trying to make. You're all over the board.

My point, and bnoro's point, was that it isn't unreasonable for the NCAA to state what factors into their decision to grant or deny waivers.

Do you disagree with that?

Again, I want to know like everyone else.
1) I entered the fray when someone asked for FULL DISCLOSURE. What that means is up for interpretation. To me, that means tell the what's and why the case is pending.
My response was it could be medically related and therefore NCAA may not be able to discuss. HIPA came to mind. I got the wrath of another poster for that comment.
A question about his "injuries" has been raised. It may have been an issue at Florida. I'm sure the NCAA has requested their input if it is indeed medically related. Again , that could hold things up.

2) Let's have an attorney weigh in on whether either side of this case (and yes this is a case) should be discussing a pending case in a public forum or elsewhere. I'd say no. Facts, circumstances ,etc. may not have been fully reviewed or verified.
Neither side should be talking and there may be an answer to why we are not hearing anything.
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Do you honestly disagree with these points??? I am not Mark Emmert. lol

 

[Cusedad2X]

being transparent about the criteria that goes into the decision making process is not the same as them divulging specific details about each case.

Again. many posts back...lol This started when someone asked for FULL DISCLOSURE. I take this as a little more than a bland statement.
Should the NCAA publically state they are questioning something in the application package??

 

[SUbear]

Again, I want to know like everyone else.
1) I entered the fray when someone asked for FULL DISCLOSURE. What that means is up for interpretation. To me, that means tell the what's and why the case is pending.
My response was it could be medically related and therefore NCAA may not be able to discuss. HIPA came to mind. I got the wrath of another poster for that comment.
A question about his "injuries" has been raised. It may have been an issue at Florida. I'm sure the NCAA has requested their input if it is indeed medically related. Again , that could hold things up.

2) Let's have an attorney weigh in on whether either side of this case (and yes this is a case) should be discussing a pending case in a public forum or elsewhere. I'd say no. Facts, circumstances ,etc. may not have been fully reviewed or verified.
Neither side should be talking and there may be an answer to why we are not hearing anything.
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Do you honestly disagree with these points??? I am not Mark Emmert. lol

If you can not resolve issues in 5 months, and give an answer you are both inefficient and stupid. Nobody is saying it should be a definite yes, although that is what we prefer, however an answer is essential and there is no excuse for not getting one. No excuse.

 

[Cusedad2X]

If you can not resolve issues in 10 months, and give an answer you are both inefficient and stupid. Nobody is saying it should be a definite yes, although that is what we prefer, however an answer is essential and there is no excuse for not getting one. No excuse.

Again, not trying to argue...but just saying his twitter account said April 13, 2020 his application was submitted. I know 4 months is too long too.

 

[orange79]

Again, I want to know like everyone else.
1) I entered the fray when someone asked for FULL DISCLOSURE. What that means is up for interpretation. To me, that means tell the what's and why the case is pending.
My response was it could be medically related and therefore NCAA may not be able to discuss. HIPA came to mind. I got the wrath of another poster for that comment.
A question about his "injuries" has been raised. It may have been an issue at Florida. I'm sure the NCAA has requested their input if it is indeed medically related. Again , that could hold things up.

2) Let's have an attorney weigh in on whether either side of this case (and yes this is a case) should be discussing a pending case in a public forum or elsewhere. I'd say no. Facts, circumstances ,etc. may not have been fully reviewed or verified.
Neither side should be talking and there may be an answer to why we are not hearing anything.
.

Do you honestly disagree with these points??? I am not Mark Emmert. lol

You are totally missing the point. I am not asking for any individual's medical records. I am talking about the NCAA stating what the criteria are for granting or denying waivers. What is it about that you don't understand?

From my previous post: "My point, and bnoro's point, was that it isn't unreasonable for the NCAA to state what factors into their decision to grant or deny waivers."

 

[SUbear]

Again, not trying to argue...but just saying his twitter account said April 13, 2020 his application was submitted. I know 4 months is too long too.

Okay closer to 5 months then, but we do not know how long prior to that twitter that it was actually sent in. Everything I said still applies. Others have been approved in way less than half that time. This is especially true for transfers closer to home with a pandemic going on.
Also not an intraconference transfer, so no conference rules to muddy up the issue.

 

[Cusedad2X]

You are totally missing the point. I am not asking for any individual's medical records. I am talking about the NCAA stating what the criteria are for granting or denying waivers. What is it about that you don't understand?

From my previous post: "My point, and bnoro's point, was that it isn't unreasonable for the NCAA to state what factors into their decision to grant or deny waivers."

Again, the point I am trying to make is HIS medical info may be the question holding up their decision. Would you really think the NCAA would potentially defame him by saying they think he transferred because he lost his stating role.. NOT that he was truly injured?? Further, you think they would put out a statement before their investigation is completed???
If anything is let out with a trace of medical history by the NCAA they could be in violation of HIPA laws.

c'mon...we all have the same interest in SU. Demanding things from the NCAA is good for this message board. In reality, it will go nowhere.. sorry.. fact.