I'll give you more athletic and bigger. I don't think I can say more talented. Melo is as talented as any two guys on team 2, and shooting and passing are talents team one has in spades.
Yes, those lottery picks are more athletic than their counterparts. Lack of athleticism kept Rautins, GMac, and AO out of the NBA not talent (when I say talent I primarily mean skills since you made athleticism a separate category). The one lottery pick on team 1 is the only NBA all-star and MVP candidate in this discussion so he evens things out.
If Billy had been born one year earlier...or Ron one year later...
I think a lot of what Waiters and MCW are better at has to do with athleticism which I acknowledged was better. If you decide to make athleticism a component of talent and delete it as a separate asset, I'll give it to you. The way I see it, if you make athleticism and talent separate assets as you did in your first post, you have try and separate running and jumping from talent and I just don't see how MCW and Waiters are that much better without the advantages they have in those traits. Immeasureables like intelligence and vision have to be considered, and I don't think Waiters or MCW are any better at those than GMac or Rautins minus the athleticism.
For the sake of this discussion Billy is a junior with everyone else a senior.
I agree, w AO of course. Imo the 89 team had more talent (when you look at how many guys eventually got drafted from that team). But a combination of best talent, pieces to the puzzle, and chemistry- imo 2010 w AO edges out 2012 w Fab, 2003 and 1987 for best team.
Sorry man, I already suggested a team 3, you can have team 4 though. It'd work perfectly for a mini-tournament.
Sorry man, I already suggested a team 3, you can have team 4 though. It'd work perfectly for a mini-tournament.
P.S. If you've got an all alley oop team, it's gotta be The General throwing 'em up there.
Oh, that's so sad. Nobody threw the oop like Sherman Douglas. Like someone was saying in another thread, most of the time you can kind of see an alley oop coming. With Sherm there were so many times he'd chuck something up there and you were thinking, "What the heck is he doing," then someone would come out of nowhere to throw it down. It was art.Before my time
Sherm is probably the best ooper ever.
He did. But that is like comparing Dion Waiters to Michael Jordan. One is a good player the other is the best to ever do it. Scoop became a very good player for us, but Sherman Douglas was the best passer, especially with the alley oop, ever at SU. He's one of the best ever in college basketball. I wish there were more highlights of him to look back at.
Agreed. Rautins was a stud in the zone his senior year, better than Triche was his senior year IMO. But MCW was as good as it gets at the top. I think if we had to name a starting lineup for the last decade as far as the defense goes, I'd put MCW and Rautins on the top, with Triche as the 3rd guard.
