Wildhack Press Conference: 11 AM

[SUDadx2]

Also I’m not saying fire the guy

I’m saying, he doesn’t deserve an extension….. yet

My previous post, the one to which you responded, didn’t mention a single word about a contract extension. However, the concept of an extension could be an interesting one.

One, do we know when Coach Baber’s current contract expires?

Most fans are aware that a short term contract or one that is set to expire before a player’s eligibility would expire could affect recruiting high school players.

In today’s world one might also wonder the potential impact of a sunsetting contract on current players on the roster. Will they look to the portal if they sense instability in the current coaches? Will a coach with a sunsetting contract be able to attract player in the portal to address current needs?

And, just as important, will assistant coaches be inclined to stay without some degree of security that comes from a HC with a multi-year contract? White, Schmidt, Acuff, West, Monroe, Ligs, Anae and Beck are all guys I would look at if I was in need of coaches. The coaching carousel that we know focuses on the movement of head coaches, but every new head coach is also tasked with putting together a staff. Do I stay in one one of the snowiest destinations with a HC who only has a year or two remaining on his contract (and a fan base that seems to always have their pitchforks and lanterns at the ready) or do I consider an offer from a HC that has a nice new multi-year contract?

I wonder what the impact on our staff would be if Bronco Mendenhall came out of retirement for a new HC job? I heard his name mentioned in connection with an opening out west.

 

[JRHEETER]

My previous post, the one to which you responded, didn’t mention a single word about a contract extension. However, the concept of an extension could be an interesting one.

One, do we know when Coach Baber’s current contract expires?

Most fans are aware that a short term contract or one that is set to expire before a player’s eligibility would expire could affect recruiting high school players.

In today’s world one might also wonder the potential impact of a sunsetting contract on current players on the roster. Will they look to the portal if they sense instability in the current coaches? Will a coach with a sunsetting contract be able to attract player in the portal to address current needs?

And, just as important, will assistant coaches be inclined to stay without some degree of security that comes from a HC with a multi-year contract? White, Schmidt, Acuff, West, Monroe, Ligs, Anae and Beck are all guys I would look at if I was in need of coaches. The coaching carousel that we know focuses on the movement of head coaches, but every new head coach is also tasked with putting together a staff. Do I stay in one one of the snowiest destinations with a HC who only has a year or two remaining on his contract (and a fan base that seems to always have their pitchforks and lanterns at the ready) or do I consider an offer from a HC that has a nice new multi-year contract?

I wonder what the impact on our staff would be if Bronco Mendenhall came out of retirement for a new HC job? I heard his name mentioned in connection with an opening out west.

But my response which you responded to was me responding to someone saying that the presser was to extend Dino

Which I said I hope not.

Sooooooooooo?

 

[orangenauburn]

I’m not going to let his 5-0 start this season get him off the hook

If he loses the next 7 he will be right back on the hot seat for me

His overall W/L record is atrocious and is even worse if you look at his ACC record.

He’s cooled his seat for sure so far this season but he’s still on notice.

I’ve said from the start of the season I’ll give him this plus next season due to the new coaches…

This season so far has been fun. A bowl is a must at this point. A collapse would leave a very sour taste for the majority. Ideally the team keeps things plugging and gets win six on 10/15 to get that done and over with. Ideally they keep it going and get 8-11 wins (bowl included) this year.

The schedule for 2023 and 2024 are set up for continuing success. Those MUST be bowl years. If Dino can roll off 3-4 straight years of bowl seasons, everything else should follow suit. Fans returning consistently, improved recruiting and talent, improved perception nationally.

Everything is set up on the table for Dino to succeed. John gave him a lot of rope considering the industry Dino is in. Dino needs to come through, otherwise he needs to go.

I believe with the investment and the team and support in place, he will be successful.

 

[orangenauburn]

Soooo, what’s your point? You say this like it’s a bad thing.

Right - it means we have the support systems in place to maintain somewhat competitiveness

 

[orangenauburn]

Inaccurate take on the COVID year

I think it's pretty clear that year is becoming the outlier under Dino


4, 4, 10, 5, 1, 5, and this year 5 so far.

And honestly, because of poor game management, last year should have been 7 or 8 (I know it wasn't and shouldn't count it as such).

 

[orangecuse]

I won’t remove the Covid year

I get they had to overcome obstacles but I think that year plays out the way it did even if it’s a normal year. The writing was on the wall after the 2019 season

Yeah, let's remove the Covid year. How convenient. How about removing the 10-3 year? Actuarial speaking, that would be the most accurate assessment taking out both outliers and using the median.

Being 5-0 at this point is wonderful for sure. We have beaten the 12th and 13th ranked ACC teams to date according to this week's latest ACC rankings. Let's see how the rest of the season plays out as we get into the heart of our conference schedule.

Dino currently is in a good position to improve upon his abysmal 17-35 ACC record to date, I'm guardedly hopeful he does.

 

[SUDadx2]

But my response which you responded to was me responding to someone saying that the presser was to extend Dino

Which I said I hope not.

Sooooooooooo?

Sooooooooo….

But my response which you responded to was me responding to someone saying that the presser was to extend Dino

Which I said I hope not.

Sooooooooooo?

So…. “the concept of an extension could be an interesting one.”


Feel free to read the rest of the post.

 

[JRHEETER]

Sooooooooo….


So…. “the concept of an extension could be an interesting one.”


Feel free to read the rest of the post.

Absolutely not

It’s a non starter, there is no talk to be had.

Let’s see how this season concludes and then MAYBE I’ll consider talking about an extension

But right now, way too premature. We are 5-0 with a schedule in the first half that ranked one of the WORST in the country.

Let’s see what we do in the back half with one of the TOUGHEST in the country.

Until the end of the season, no contract extension should even be thought of

 

[All4SU]

Absolutely not

It’s a non starter, there is no talk to be had.

Let’s see how this season concludes and then MAYBE I’ll consider talking about an extension

But right now, way too premature. We are 5-0 with a schedule in the first half that ranked one of the WORST in the country.

Let’s see what we do in the back half with one of the TOUGHEST in the country.

Until the end of the season, no contract extension should even be thought of

Our first 5 game schedule was not considered weak preseason. The major thing that changed is we defeated those teams. Had we lost, those teams would certainly be more highly considered, and we would be where the “experts” had us. Again, SOS will all shake out over the course of the season. But I’m not Downplaying our opponents simply because we beat them.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Wildhack is a smart guy, he esentially laughed when that dope reporter asked about an Extension which would be insane when you look at Dino's current record here. 5-0 is great but let's have the season play out as we all know Dino's track record in the back half of the schedule.

 

[SUDadx2]

Absolutely not

It’s a non starter, there is no talk to be had.

Let’s see how this season concludes and then MAYBE I’ll consider talking about an extension

But right now, way too premature. We are 5-0 with a schedule in the first half that ranked one of the WORST in the country.

Let’s see what we do in the back half with one of the TOUGHEST in the country.

Until the end of the season, no contract extension should even be thought of

I don’t disagree with that, however I wouldn’t be surprised if they are already happening.

Do you know when Baber’s current contract expires?

 

[JeremyCuse]

I don’t disagree with that, however I wouldn’t be surprised if they are already happening.

Do you know when Baber’s current contract expires?

Babers allegedly has 2 more years. I highly doubt they have had even a short discussion about an extension. He has to get to 6 wins this year to even guarantee the next 2.

 

[Consigliere]

Yeah, let's remove the Covid year. How convenient. How about removing the 10-3 year? Actuarial speaking, that would be the most accurate assessment taking out both outliers and using the median.

Being 5-0 at this point is wonderful for sure. We have beaten the 12th and 13th ranked ACC teams to date according to this week's latest ACC rankings. Let's see how the rest of the season plays out as we get into the heart of our conference schedule.

Dino currently is in a good position to improve upon his abysmal 17-35 ACC record to date, I'm guardedly hopeful he does.

Please list the detailed anomalies that would justify removing the 10-3 year as I did to justify removing the covid year. We won some close games? This is more than a statistical analysis. This is looking at a historically unprecedented time that was rife with impacts that have never been seen before and hopefully will never be seen again and determining that what happened that year can logically be removed when analyzing overall results. Honestly, how is this even a question?

 

[NineOneSeven]

Please list the detailed anomalies that would justify removing the 10-3 year as I did to justify removing the covid year. We won some close games? This is more than a statistical analysis. This is looking at a historically unprecedented time that was rife with impacts that have never been seen before and hopefully will never be seen again and determining that what happened that year can logically be removed when analyzing overall results. Honestly, how is this even a question?

Will the history books remove those games?

 

[FasterCuse]

Please list the detailed anomalies that would justify removing the 10-3 year as I did to justify removing the covid year. We won some close games? This is more than a statistical analysis. This is looking at a historically unprecedented time that was rife with impacts that have never been seen before and hopefully will never be seen again and determining that what happened that year can logically be removed when analyzing overall results. Honestly, how is this even a question?

Maybe we should tell Georgia the season didn't count

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Maybe we should tell Georgia the season didn't count

some people think the Lakers championship shouldn't count

 

[Consigliere]

Will the history books remove those games?

Irrelevant. I responded to a post that stated Syracuse's record under Dino Babers has been "atrocious." I stated multiple reasons where I felt it would be justified to discount 2020 in that evaluation. Another post felt we should remove the 10-3 year as well and I asked for the reasons to consider 2018 irrelevant with detail that I listed for 2020. If you can provide that level of detail or refute any of the items I mentioned there is a debate. If you cannot (and you cannot), then I think it's reasonable to feel that 2020 was not a reflection on the coach's overall record.

 

[rrlbees]

5-0 which was most people’s wishes and yet some still want to do nothing but piss and moan about everything. Sometimes it doesn’t even feel like we are 5-0.

 

[JeremyCuse]

5-0 which was most people’s wishes and yet some still want to do nothing but piss and moan about everything. Sometimes it doesn’t even feel like we are 5-0.

Welcome to every D1 football board in existence.

 

[rrlbees]

Welcome to every D1 football board in existence.

Not at 5-0.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Not at 5-0.

Check out Bama and Georgia's board and get back to me

 

[rrlbees]

Check out Bama and Georgia's board and get back to me

We aren’t Bama or Georgia.

 

[OrangePA]

Impressive guy.

 

[JeremyCuse]

We aren’t Bama or Georgia.

Exactly, if their not 100% rainbows and sparklers why would you expect this fanbase to be especially with Dino's track record in the back half of the season.

 

[SUbear]

The program is headed in the right direction and has been for more than a minute.

Don’t let the gauntlet the team is facing make you so crazy you forget Coach Babers has this program going in the right direction.

+ Defense is playing very well and has improved annually for the past few years.

+ Offense is balanced and has improved. We still have work to do here. Let’s see if the run game game be competitive over the next 3 games.

+ Special teams, Oh my… thank you, thank you, thank you for being wise enough to hire Coach Lig.

+ Recruiting. No not freshman recruiting, although we picked up a couple of nice pieces (Allen), but portal recruiting (Clark and Johnson standout the most to me) and most important retention recruiting. We were able to not lose any of our big names to the portal; Tucker, Williams, Jones, Bergeron, Chestnut etc…. You can’t tell me these guys weren’t approached by other programs trying to get them to leave Syracuse. You have to give Babers and his staff credit for creating a culture where those guys would want to stay. Hands down, a completed underrated quality of Coach Babers.

Babers has built this roster, he’s built this coaching staff and the program is headed in the right direction.



If you can’t see this, I can’t help you.

So what was he doing for the first six years?