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Will walk-ons go away?


And would it help the haves or the have-nots more?
They won’t go away.. may fall into the dark alleys for a few years, but it’ll rebound. With unlimited coaches, employee status and d man’s for continued facility investment… everyone outside the top 40 right now is going to experience a tightening of the belt at some point over the next 5 years. Walkons will return to at least their current importance when that happens.

The Top 40 likely will serve in an analogous role to AAA; meaning they won’t have space for walkons anymore than they would need tackle dummies. Everyone else though will need cheap labor.

Great questions though.
 
100 percent no.
I disagree on both points; though not sure which you’re addressing. The world doesn’t write blank checks and that’s reality. Wells, which were perceived to be perpetual, eventually will dry up. Budgeting will come back into focus. Walkons will survive.
 
They won’t go away.. may fall into the dark alleys for a few years, but it’ll rebound. With unlimited coaches, employee status and d man’s for continued facility investment… everyone outside the top 40 right now is going to experience a tightening of the belt at some point over the next 5 years. Walkons will return to at least their current importance when that happens.

The Top 40 likely will serve in an analogous role to AAA; meaning they won’t have space for walkons anymore than they would need tackle dummies. Everyone else though will need cheap labor.

Great questions though.
If pros deal with 52 why cant colleges deal with 85. Wouldnt that help the schools bye lowering their money they are kicking out.
 
Make all football players walk ons, keep the 120 cap and allow the NIL to pay for every single player whatever they deem fit. Added benefit if wealthy donors are paying they may enact means to stifle the ludicrous tuition costs so that more of their money goes directly to the athletes.

Downstream effect, even up scholarships for non rev sports for title nine without football skewing numbers. There's no real reason that rugby, rowing and triathlon should have woman's scholarship allocation but not men's.
 
Make all football players walk ons, keep the 120 cap and allow the NIL to pay for every single player whatever they deem fit. Added benefit if wealthy donors are paying they may enact means to stifle the ludicrous tuition costs so that more of their money goes directly to the athletes.

Downstream effect, even up scholarships for non rev sports for title nine without football skewing numbers. There's no real reason that rugby, rowing and triathlon should have woman's scholarship allocation but not men's.
Any school that doesn't have big donors or has high tuition costs (see: SU) would never land players if this was the case.
 
This got me going down a rabbit hole of when athletic scholarships actually became a thing. (Looks like 1956).

Check out the incentives given to James Hogan to play for Yale in 1903:

In fact, his 27-year-old captain James Hogan enjoyed free tuition and a swanky suite, a handsome stipend, a ten-day paid vacation in Cuba, and, best of all, a monopoly on the sale of American Tobacco Company products on campus (referred to affectionately as Hogan’s Cigarettes by fellow students).
 

"Post-War Talent Boom

With all the football talent returning from the war, and many former football players having access to extra years of eligibility due to wartime eligibility rules, college football was sharply transformed in 1946. A bidding war broke out for the services of the best available players, and the South was a particularly active purchaser of football talent. But in hindsight the most notable purchaser was Oklahoma, a nobody before the war that was about to become an elite football power overnight. How? Cold, hard cash. For players.

Francis Wallace published an article in the November 9th Saturday Evening Post, "Football's Black Market," that exposed the sordid scene and made quite the splash. According to the article, eight war veterans who had played for Tulsa's 1944 team (8-2, #7) were purchased by Oklahoma, and Oklahoma would continue buying top recruits for decades afterward. But Oklahoma was not alone.

Former Illinois star Buddy Young received 25 offers, but chose to return to Illinois for several thousand dollars. Shorty McWilliams, a halfback at Army in 1945, was alleged to have been offered $15,000, a car, a job, and a post-graduation job to transfer to an unnamed team (presumably Mississippi State, where he did transfer). Army initially refused to allow the transfer, citing knowledge of the impropriety, but they ultimately let him go."


"Oklahoma's history as a football power began in 1946. Prior to that, they rarely made waves nationally. They had been ranked in the 1938 and 1939 AP polls, and had there been an AP poll top 25 1901-1935, they likely would have been rated 3 more times. So in 45 seasons prior to 1946, they were top 25 just 5 times. After 1946, however, they became a top 25 fixture, and in fact they are probably the top football program 1946-present. How did they become such an overnight sensation out of nowhere? Cold, hard cash, of course.

The coach in 1946 was Hall of Famer Jim Tatum. He only stuck around that one season, but that was okay, because the school had really wanted to hire his assistant, Bud Wilkinson (at right in photo), in the first place. Also in the Hall of Fame, Wilkinson ascended to head coach and led Oklahoma to the top of the college football world. Tatum's 1946 recruiting class featured 9 players who would make All American lists during their careers. Oklahoma was a major player in the "black market" of football talent returning from the war. Recruits were matched up with "sugar daddies" who gave them money and bought them clothes. This was a system that Oklahoma continued, more or less, through the 1980s, despite the periodic affliction of NCAA penalties for cheating along the way."
 
I disagree on both points; though not sure which you’re addressing. The world doesn’t write blank checks and that’s reality. Wells, which were perceived to be perpetual, eventually will dry up. Budgeting will come back into focus. Walkons will survive.
100% no…walkons will not go away.
 
Any school that doesn't have big donors or has high tuition costs (see: SU) would never land players if this was the case.
Correct. I would love for the net by product of the college football arms race to be massive tuition cost drops for all students at SU and all schools.
 

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