I like this assessment. And I am very okay with a run oriented, deliberate offense if the O can control the LOS, and if it leads to wins.
Any scheme can be countered. Its all about how well you execute the plays. 2019 we just weren't good enough. It wasn't because of tempo. My only beef with tempo is that it puts a lot of strain on the defense. A lot of teams use 3 different types of tempo's for that reason.
Yup tempo and spread offenses were meant to better your chances against superior teams.
Right, I rather have them decide tempo based on how the game is going and the situation. Going in they might think fast tempo will give them an advantage against certain opponents.
One thing JB does is press to speed up the game and cause turnovers. He seems to only do it when they are down by a certain margin and needs a spark. I wish he did it more often.Exactly! Similar to when JB quickly switches to M2M for a possession or two. Oh wait...
I don't think it is a style that works at all against superior teams. You do not want to try to make more possessions against a superior opponent. You want to limit the possessions as there is a larger likelihood that you come out on top. More possessions for each team causes a larger likelihood of a regression to the mean which you don't want.
sutomcat incoming with the Cease and Desist
I like running the heck out of the ball and controlling the clock , keeping the ball away from elite offenses is fine by me and while yea it’s not as exciting if it gets us a W fine by me . I do think the speed spread briles offense has been some what figured out
It if you have the ability to twist the dial in either direction is the key .. we can do that we are in business
I don't get how this makes sense. Its not just as simple as saying it is an advantage against a more talented team. I don't think its an advantage to play it against a superior team in this style. The reason has to be because these non superior teams were built differently without the ability to sign the massive talented recruits. So they recruit the elite more agile linemen and play the game at a faster pace.
the better the oline is the more you can control how this works.. We have a functional Oline so we can run more and the QB runs some.. The less the oline functions the more you need to the QB to add that threat to move the ball.. If the oline took another step up the QB would just be a threat you had to honor not a main cog in the offense. But if we had a better passing game with the way we can run now we would have something.
It's pretty straightforward thinking.
Well yes obviously, but the talent of the other team has nothing to do with it is what i am saying. In general you wouldn't want more possessions for both teams but less against a more talented team. It does seem the slight rule changes and also teams familiarity with it now make it a bit less effective than it was in the past though. But I'm not against fast pace in general at all. I'm just saying you have to build your team with the right personnel and condition them for it as well. It just so happens I'm not sure we have the right personnel to run it right now.
I disagree with almost everything in your first paragraph, and just to reaffirm, I think we're doing the right thing for this season.
I mean what you're advocating for is what has given us decades of rock fights in college hoops. Heck go back far enough and you'll find the reason why the shot clock was invented.
Are you talking tempo or spread systems? In regards to spread. When it blew up it was giving teams favorable chances to beat teams with better D line play and etc.. Its not full proof but that was one of the reasons why it got popular. Teams were losing to inferior teams that ran spread. Zone blocking is the biggest factor honestly. It allows teams to run the ball effectively against bigger stronger front 7s.. Im always going to remember West Virginia beating Georgia in 2006. West Virginia destroying a good clemson team in 2011. There's many more examples of this through the years. Just a couple games that popped in my head.
I don't care if we take naps between the plays as long as we win. Fast is fun. Winning is funner.
This has nothing to do with hoops and the shot clock. Doesn't relate in any way. Not sure how you can disagree with my first paragraph at all. Its simple. We all know points are what matter. But getting more possessions doesn't give just your team a chance for more points. It gives the other teams more opportunities to get points as well. If the other team is 10% better than you, the more chances you give each team and then add them up at the end, the more likely they are going to go in favor of the opponent. That is just math. Yes it is just one factor. Now If you have an efficient offense and can be more effective each possession running at a higher pace then yes it should be done. We just don't have that.
Agreed that those are examples of things that can help teams against more talented teams. I'm specifically addressing tempo but I feel like spread schemes and tempo usually go somewhat hand in hand. Dino's original offense would use a lot of those elements. I'm just saying tempo in and of itself, creating more possessions for both teams is an element that actually is worse for the less talented team. Other positive advantages of being more effective have to be present to overcome that part. But it is an added advantage against less talented teams which should help you beat lesser teams by an even larger margin.
I will say 85% of college football run spread. Dino's scheme is tied to tempo and that makes it more unique. Spread scheme and tempo is two different things. In terms of more possessions throughout the duration of a game, yes it can potentially hurt you more when you are less talented. but when you are less talented you are going to lose most of the time against more superior teams anyways. You can pull upsets as well if you can slow it down and grind it out, limit a team's possessions but that's a tall task too. I've seen teams get blown out that way as well.
Ok.
