Class of 2023 WR Johntay Cook (TX) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (5/1/25)

[orangemass]

I don’t understand refusing to give up something you stole when you are caught red handed. I always gave some leniency when the offender cooperated. I hope he has changed and makes better life decisions from here out.

You do wierd stuff when your high as kite

 

[CuseBlood44]

Not to be that guy, but are we sure this is the caliber person we want to bring on campus, into the city, county, etc? DART matters in all facets while second chances are important we should also avoid head cases and potential risks

 

[PhatOrange]

What i read, Somewhat related...

He went to a smoke shop. Tried buying something and his CC was declined. He was asked to leave and he reacted by grabbing a key fob and leaving. When stopped by police they asked for the key fob to be returned and he refused.

Oh and, he was arrested for Marijuana possession in Pottsboro, TX...

Oh my god throw away the key.

 

[tptcuse]

What i read, Somewhat related...

He went to a smoke shop. Tried buying something and his CC was declined. He was asked to leave and he reacted by grabbing a key fob and leaving. When stopped by police they asked for the key fob to be returned and he refused.

Oh and, he was arrested for Marijuana possession in Pottsboro, TX...

At least it wasn't a bathrobe...

 

[SUalldway]

Not to be that guy, but are we sure this is the caliber person we want to bring on campus, into the city, county, etc? DART matters in all facets while second chances are important we should also avoid head cases and potential risks

Fran has indicated that DART means that a young kid making a couple of stupid mistakes should be given a chance for redemption.

 

[bnoro]

SU is a player now.
Fran has elevated us.
In recent times landing a guy like this would have the board in a frenzy.
Now it's more like business as usual.
Don't know what next year will bring, but we certainly aren't sitting on our hands and feeling satisfied w/table scraps.

He has 16 catches for 273 yards and 2 TDs in his career. He's had two arrests and has been dismissed from Washington. And he hasn't come close to living up to his recruiting profile.

I don't think we even would've been excited about this kid under Babers.

 

[SURules]

He has 16 catches for 273 yards and 2 TDs in his career. He's had two arrests and has been dismissed from Washington. And he hasn't come close to living up to his recruiting profile.

I don't think we even would've been excited about this kid under Babers.

Maybe Fran can get the full expectations and potential out of the kid? A good role model and some DART discipline might be just what he needs.

 

[CuseBlood44]

You do wierd stuff when your high as kite

Maybe (I wouldn’t know). But disobeying police officers orders is a sign you won’t obey authority of any sorts (coaches, professors, etc)

 

[sufan59]

Not to be that guy, but are we sure this is the caliber person we want to bring on campus, into the city, county, etc? DART matters in all facets while second chances are important we should also avoid head cases and potential risks

I trust Fran Brown, do you?

 

[orangencpolice]

Maybe (I wouldn’t know). But disobeying police officers orders is a sign you won’t obey authority of any sorts (coaches, professors, etc)

That was my concern as well. I’m not going to get wrapped up in the Possession of Marijuana charge. Weed is everywhere today. That isn’t an excuse for an athlete, but it is what it is. Hopefully the Resisting Arrest was a one time dumb decision. If anyone can straighten this kid out it’s HCFB.

 

[Orangefizz]

I trust Fran Brown, do you?

I’m a Fran Brown cult member haha

 

[PeteCalvin]

Maybe (I wouldn’t know). But disobeying police officers orders is a sign you won’t obey authority of any sorts (coaches, professors, etc)

Sometimes kids consider it”cool” to resist police. I know this media culture we have practically encourages it. There is definitely more to the story here, but if Fran brings this kid in, then he knows the respect factor is there. Kid will have a very short leash, I bet. I trust the coaching staff.

 

[bnoro]

I trust Fran Brown, do you?

You don't have to blindly trust him just because he's a good football coach and won 10 games last year.

 

[sufan59]

You don't have to blindly trust him just because he's a good football coach and won 10 games last year.

You certainly don’t. But we know from the University they are not shy to say no and are typically very risk averse. So if Fran is making these moves and even the University has yet to say anything about it or put their foot down. If you have trust in Fran, you can feel comfortable with a move like this.

 

[sufan59]

I’m a Fran Brown cult member haha

When I do question and have doubts, I’ve continued to be made stupid by Fran. Often very quickly as well.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

You don't have to blindly trust him just because he's a good football coach and won 10 games last year.

And I'm not making any commentary on Fran, but some if not most of the guys that make it to the height of this profession are major weirdos.

 

[dasher]

You certainly don’t. But we know from the University they are not shy to say no and are typically very risk averse. So if Fran is making these moves and even the University has yet to say anything about it or put their foot down. If you have trust in Fran, you can feel comfortable with a move like this.

I'm sorry, but all of a sudden, we are bringing in kids for visits that have had past legal problems. That is troublesome to me.

 

[orangefog]

I'm sorry, but all of a sudden, we are bringing in kids for visits that have had past legal problems. That is troublesome to me.

It's definitely worth some concern

 

[Jake]

It's definitely worth some concern

Yep. But these types of moves will become more commonplace as the charade of student athletes becomes more peeled back.

 

[orangefog]

Yep. But these types of moves will become more commonplace as the charade of student athletes becomes more peeled back.

I agree. At this point, I trust Fran and his judgement. But, if these guys mess up, he better come down with the hammer.

 

[sufan59]

I'm sorry, but all of a sudden, we are bringing in kids for visits that have had past legal problems. That is troublesome to me.

Would these guys have gotten into the same trouble if they were with Fran the entire time? To me I see these kind of guys Fran has been bringing in and thinking, WOW huge potential. Gravy if us fans can see that, I’m sure the coaches know it’s going to be more of challenge to get these guys ready to play. However, I feel more confident that these guys that Fran is going to probably let his own children be around, will mature. If they won’t they’ll be gone so fast. And the gravy would be seeing these guys that naturally have more talent than what we even saw last year in several position groups playing to their potential.

 

[SUforme]

Listen we all know Fran tries to do and say the right things but in the end he wants and needs to win so there may be some questionable things along the way like any coach really.

 

[Orangefizz]

I'm sorry, but all of a sudden, we are bringing in kids for visits that have had past legal problems. That is troublesome to me.

I remember Fran saying he only wanted to take one year transfers if they are future pros. I’m guessing this also means taking some questionable character kids who are also future pros

 

[dasher]

First, I am not doubting that these kids are excellent players and would help us win. But at what price. I know others are more than willing to pay that price than I am. I'm just not inclined to pay it.

 

[bnoro]

Would these guys have gotten into the same trouble if they were with Fran the entire time? To me I see these kind of guys Fran has been bringing in and thinking, WOW huge potential. Gravy if us fans can see that, I’m sure the coaches know it’s going to be more of challenge to get these guys ready to play. However, I feel more confident that these guys that Fran is going to probably let his own children be around, will mature. If they won’t they’ll be gone so fast. And the gravy would be seeing these guys that naturally have more talent than what we even saw last year in several position groups playing to their potential.

Again, Fran is not a miracle worker or a saint. He is a football coach.

These are guys that have not lived up to their potential, that have serious red flags.

If they do not completely buy in, they will take other players down with them. On a young, impressionable team, I'm not sure "veterans" like this are the best potential role models.