Class of 2022 PG Quadir Copeland (PA/IMG) COMMITTED/SIGNED TO SYRACUSE

[007]

What's his assist #s? Everything i saw shared looked like he didn't put much imprint on the game outside of scoring. Thought his assist/rebounds were pretty mediocre. Rumpel has definitely been the main ball handler/facilitator for them from everything I've seen.

MISC

#	NAME	GP	AST	APG	TO	TOPG	STL	SPG	BLK	BLKPG	PF	PFPG	TF
2	Julian Brown	6	6	1.0	10	1.7	6	1.0	0	0.0	7	1.2	0
4	Brett Rumpel	6	14	2.3	19	3.2	5	0.8	4	0.7	10	1.7	0
5	Justus Ross-Simmons	6	3	0.5	5	0.8	7	1.2	4	0.7	8	1.3	0
10	Amarri Tice	6	6	1.0	5	0.8	8	1.3	2	0.3	5	0.8	0
12	Marcus Jackson	6	11	1.8	12	2.0	7	1.2	0	0.0	11	1.8	0
1	JJ Starling	5	12	2.4	17	3.4	5	1.0	1	0.2	4	0.8	0
23	Jonathan Beagle	5	1	0.2	0	0.0	1	0.2	0	0.0	3	0.6	0
30	Brendan Coyle	5	1	0.2	2	0.4	1	0.2	0	0.0	3	0.6	0
0	Michael Rogan	5	4	0.8	1	0.2	0	0.0	0	0.0	1	0.2	0
3	Keith Warren	4	3	0.8	3	0.8	3	0.8	0	0.0	3	0.8	0
32	Dayshaun Walton	3	2	0.7	4	1.3	1	0.3	0	0.0	0	0.0	0
21	Jacob Works	1	0	0.0	0	0.0	0	0.0	0	0.0	0	0.0

 

[Cusesky8214]

MISC

#	NAME	GP	AST	APG	TO	TOPG	STL	SPG	BLK	BLKPG	PF	PFPG	TF
2	Julian Brown	6	6	1.0	10	1.7	6	1.0	0	0.0	7	1.2	0
4	Brett Rumpel	6	14	2.3	19	3.2	5	0.8	4	0.7	10	1.7	0
5	Justus Ross-Simmons	6	3	0.5	5	0.8	7	1.2	4	0.7	8	1.3	0
10	Amarri Tice	6	6	1.0	5	0.8	8	1.3	2	0.3	5	0.8	0
12	Marcus Jackson	6	11	1.8	12	2.0	7	1.2	0	0.0	11	1.8	0
1	JJ Starling	5	12	2.4	17	3.4	5	1.0	1	0.2	4	0.8	0
23	Jonathan Beagle	5	1	0.2	0	0.0	1	0.2	0	0.0	3	0.6	0
30	Brendan Coyle	5	1	0.2	2	0.4	1	0.2	0	0.0	3	0.6	0
0	Michael Rogan	5	4	0.8	1	0.2	0	0.0	0	0.0	1	0.2	0
3	Keith Warren	4	3	0.8	3	0.8	3	0.8	0	0.0	3	0.8	0
32	Dayshaun Walton	3	2	0.7	4	1.3	1	0.3	0	0.0	0	0.0	0
21	Jacob Works	1	0	0.0	0	0.0	0	0.0	0	0.0	0	0.0

City Rocks hurting on the assist averages.

 

[007]

did you watch the games? Averaging 2 apg doesn’t make you a PG either. He didn’t play PG really at Bville either. A little white kid did. And it’s interesting that the city rock roster says he’s a PG and says G for Rumpel when Rumpel was the PG 90% of the time when he was in. Let me put it this way since you didn’t like what I said. He’s not close to the PG Copeland nor Westry are. And the major point is that he and Copeland could absolutely coexist in a lineup.

It's not that I did not "like" what you said. It has nothing to do with liking. And for the record, I respect you as a poster. Your claim that JJ is not a PG now and "never was a PG" is false. He did play PG at B'ville - fact, he played PG at La Lumiere - fact, and he did play PG for the Rocks this year - fact. Rumpel played PG at the EYBL so that Hart could get his 5 best players on the floor (guessing here). Starling is the best 2G on the Rocks AND the best PG, IMO (not claiming this as fact, only my opinion). Starling is being recruited as PG by other programs; although I agree some see him as a true combo guard, as do I.

I'll make a friendly wager with you right now that Starling and Westry will be way better players in college than Copeland. I realize that you are saying that Copeland and Westry are the better PGs and not necessarily who the better "player" will be. Without commenting too much on Copeland's game, I think the margin between the 3 players at PG is much closer than you think.

Finally, if your "major point" is that JJ and Copeland can coexist (even though that is not what I responded to), I fully agree.

 

[rrlbees]

MISC​

#	NAME	GP	AST	APG	TO	TOPG	STL	SPG	BLK	BLKPG	PF	PFPG	TF
2	Julian Brown	6	6	1.0	10	1.7	6	1.0	0	0.0	7	1.2	0
4	Brett Rumpel	6	14	2.3	19	3.2	5	0.8	4	0.7	10	1.7	0
5	Justus Ross-Simmons	6	3	0.5	5	0.8	7	1.2	4	0.7	8	1.3	0
10	Amarri Tice	6	6	1.0	5	0.8	8	1.3	2	0.3	5	0.8	0
12	Marcus Jackson	6	11	1.8	12	2.0	7	1.2	0	0.0	11	1.8	0
1	JJ Starling	5	12	2.4	17	3.4	5	1.0	1	0.2	4	0.8	0
23	Jonathan Beagle	5	1	0.2	0	0.0	1	0.2	0	0.0	3	0.6	0
30	Brendan Coyle	5	1	0.2	2	0.4	1	0.2	0	0.0	3	0.6	0
0	Michael Rogan	5	4	0.8	1	0.2	0	0.0	0	0.0	1	0.2	0
3	Keith Warren	4	3	0.8	3	0.8	3	0.8	0	0.0	3	0.8	0
32	Dayshaun Walton	3	2	0.7	4	1.3	1	0.3	0	0.0	0	0.0	0
21	Jacob Works	1	0	0.0	0	0.0	0	0.0	0	0.0	0	0.0

hey, works got into a game. Must have missed that.

 

[007]

hey, works got into a game. Must have missed that.

L'pool has a couple of younger players coming up who are going to be very good, locally at least.

 

[Cuse Countr]

JJ isn’t a PG and never has been. Maybe he can develop into one eventually. He’s not the City Rock PG. He’s not even their 2nd PG. The prep school he plays for is bringing in a stud PG next year (whose name escapes me). JJ and Copeland could definitely play together.

Aden Holloway, Cuse target

 

[rrlbees]

L'pool has a couple of younger players coming up who are going to be very good, locally at least.

yea the ash kid could be very good but he’ll probably have to leave. Works is good locally.

 

[rrlbees]

Aden Holloway, Cuse target

that’s it. I had a brain cramp on the name.

 

[Scott11]

Fwiw in a write up on Justin Taylor in the Athletic, Seth Davis said it is expected that Quadir will commit to Cuse soon. See below.

Justin Taylor, 6-6 guard, Team Takeover​

Taylor has already committed to Syracuse, and the first thing that struck me about him is his size. He’s tall and sturdy, and it’s obvious he has put in his hours in the weight room. I know Taylor has been billed as the next Buddy Boeheim, but while he’s not quite the shooter that Buddy was at this age, he’s considerably ahead in all other phases of the game. Taylor has a sweet 3-point stroke, but he’s not just a come-off-a-screen, catch-and-shoot guy. He has a quality one-dribble pullup jumper, and he can put the ball on the deck and get to the rim when he wants to, though he does so by using strength and angles as opposed to quickness and burst. Taylor also looked real comfortable running his team’s offense from the point. He has the tools to be a good rebounder from his position, but I didn’t see him do much of that. I’d also like to see him post up some more.

Syracuse looks like it’s headed for a very solid class. Besides Taylor, who is ranked No. 64 in the Class of 2022 by 247Sports, Jim Boeheim also has a commitment from Kamari Lands, a 6-8 forward from California whom 247Sports ranks 37th in the class. Quadir Copeland, a 6-6 guard from Pennsylvania who is ranked 141st, is expected to commit to soon as well. Those guys are good enough to help the Orange win but not so good that they’ll leave for the NBA after a year or two. That’s the sweet spot in recruiting.

 

[jgeorge322]

Fwiw in a write up on Justin Taylor in the Athletic, Seth Davis said it is expected that Quadir will commit to Cuse soon. See below.

Justin Taylor, 6-6 guard, Team Takeover​

Taylor has already committed to Syracuse, and the first thing that struck me about him is his size. He’s tall and sturdy, and it’s obvious he has put in his hours in the weight room. I know Taylor has been billed as the next Buddy Boeheim, but while he’s not quite the shooter that Buddy was at this age, he’s considerably ahead in all other phases of the game. Taylor has a sweet 3-point stroke, but he’s not just a come-off-a-screen, catch-and-shoot guy. He has a quality one-dribble pullup jumper, and he can put the ball on the deck and get to the rim when he wants to, though he does so by using strength and angles as opposed to quickness and burst. Taylor also looked real comfortable running his team’s offense from the point. He has the tools to be a good rebounder from his position, but I didn’t see him do much of that. I’d also like to see him post up some more.

Syracuse looks like it’s headed for a very solid class. Besides Taylor, who is ranked No. 64 in the Class of 2022 by 247Sports, Jim Boeheim also has a commitment from Kamari Lands, a 6-8 forward from California whom 247Sports ranks 37th in the class. Quadir Copeland, a 6-6 guard from Pennsylvania who is ranked 141st, is expected to commit to soon as well. Those guys are good enough to help the Orange win but not so good that they’ll leave for the NBA after a year or two. That’s the sweet spot in recruiting.

i dont know a lot, but what i do know is seth davis has no clue how long either of those three players will be at cuse or when they will be ready for the nba

 

[djorange1989]

i dont know a lot, but what i do know is seth davis has no clue how long either of those three players will be at cuse or when they will be ready for the nba

Hey I bet you said he didn’t know anything when he said we would lose to Montana in 2013. Oh wait, that’s right, he’s a moron

 

[rrlbees]

It's not that I did not "like" what you said. It has nothing to do with liking. And for the record, I respect you as a poster. Your claim that JJ is not a PG now and "never was a PG" is false. He did play PG at B'ville - fact, he played PG at La Lumiere - fact, and he did play PG for the Rocks this year - fact. Rumpel played PG at the EYBL so that Hart could get his 5 best players on the floor (guessing here). Starling is the best 2G on the Rocks AND the best PG, IMO (not claiming this as fact, only my opinion). Starling is being recruited as PG by other programs; although I agree some see him as a true combo guard, as do I.

I'll make a friendly wager with you right now that Starling and Westry will be way better players in college than Copeland. I realize that you are saying that Copeland and Westry are the better PGs and not necessarily who the better "player" will be. Without commenting too much on Copeland's game, I think the margin between the 3 players at PG is much closer than you think.

Finally, if your "major point" is that JJ and Copeland can coexist (even though that is not what I responded to), I fully agree.

im not going to address all your points because I’m not in the mood and I disagree with most of it. But I will say your fact that he was the PG at La Lumiere is not correct. He was not. A kid by the name of Jeremy Fears was the PG and played most of the game, as did JJ at the wing. Fears is a year behind JJ but is one of the top rated players in Indiana and has over a dozen offers already as a sophomore. Those include Gonzaga, Illinois, Iowa and others. I saw part of one game and JJ didn’t play PG at all. It was Fears the whole time. I found a short video of that game. You’ll actually enjoy it as there was some great shooting and JJ must have made 5 or 6 threes and was unconscious. But tell me after you watch it who was the PG?

 

[orangefog]

im not going to address all your points because I’m not in the mood and I disagree with most of it. But I will say your fact that he was the PG at La Lumiere is not correct. He was not. A kid by the name of Jeremy Fears was the PG and played most of the game, as did JJ at the wing. Fears is a year behind JJ but is one of the top rated players in Indiana and has over a dozen offers already as a sophomore. Those include Gonzaga, Illinois, Iowa and others. I saw part of one game and JJ didn’t play PG at all. It was Fears the whole time. I found a short video of that game. You’ll actually enjoy it as there was some great shooting and JJ must have made 5 or 6 threes and was unconscious. But tell me after you watch it who was the PG?

Yeah, I watched only two La Lumiere games this year, but JJ was definitely the 2. He made some nice passes, but Fears was the point guard.

 

[kcsu]

hes a true 2 like Joe is. Hopefully if he comes to SU he can play the 2 and not be forced to the point

 

[rrlbees]

Copeland didn’t play today but I think I saw him on the bench. Hope it wasn’t for sulking some the other day. He seems to get down when his team or him aren’t playing well.

 

[OrangeYaGladi]

Copeland didn’t play today but I think I saw him on the bench. Hope it wasn’t for sulking some the other day. He seems to get down when his team or him aren’t playing well.

How’s the body language compare to Jalen Carey ?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Copeland didn’t play today but I think I saw him on the bench. Hope it wasn’t for sulking some the other day. He seems to get down when his team or him aren’t playing well.

Fits. Right. In!

 

[SU in Hershey]

Fits. Right. In!

You mean on the team, or here at SyracuseFan.com?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

You mean on the team, or here at SyracuseFan.com?

Yes.

 

[Orangezoo]

Copeland didn’t play today but I think I saw him on the bench. Hope it wasn’t for sulking some the other day. He seems to get down when his team or him aren’t playing well.

I feel like this is the norm with this generation more than not.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I feel like this is the norm with this generation more than not.

 

[OrangeAl]

So, I guess those are the young dinosaurs complaining about the meteors falling from the sky, while the older ones wisely take cover. That it?

 

[jordville]

JT shared Quadir's latest IG post in his own story.

Quadir signing off from Peach Jam like many other 2022 kids have been. Next Orangemen up...

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Let's go!

 

[jordoo]

When Quadir commits we will have a PG and two combo wings committed for the 22 class. It may seem like things have been chugging along slowly since all the early summer visits but the reality is that we have reloaded the 1-3 positions. After that the next priority is to add a big but there is flexibility to also take another kid at any position.