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Well respected musicians that you think "suck"

RandomGuy said:
Bat out of hell was awesome.
I remember girls getting so liquored up, in college , to that one, and singing along. It always made for a good night. Was it the gals? The booze? Meatloaf? Never cared why. Still don't.;-)
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Girls never liked meat that loafed!
 
RandomGuy said:
Bat out of hell was awesome.
I remember girls getting so liquored up, in college , to that one, and singing along. It always made for a good night. Was it the gals? The booze? Meatloaf? Never cared why. Still don't.;-)
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Siena college - 1980something. Yup!
 
Meatloaf was a joke and was viewed as such. I think people gave him brownie points b/c he sorta acknowledged it. Kinda like that other ground beef performer--Jimmy Buffett.
 
Symphony Steve said:
Meatloaf was a joke and was viewed as such. I think people gave him brownie points b/c he sorta acknowledged it. Kinda like that other ground beef performer--Jimmy Buffett.
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I'm not a fan of Jimmy Buffett, but he has sustained a musical career much more comprehensive than meatloaf. He has a pretty good catalog and a huge following.
 
ebucklewis said:
I'm not a fan of Jimmy Buffett, but he has sustained a musical career much more comprehensive than meatloaf. He has a pretty good catalog and a huge following.
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Agreed. The music is about 1/4 of the reason the other JB is so popular. It's a lifestyle that is very suited for daydreaming and aspiring to, rather than actually living.

It's a scene man.
 
CuseFaninVT said:
Siena college - 1980something. Yup!
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Not just me.

1980 something+drunk girls+meatloaf=very, very good night.

It's interesting how ones memories surrounding music shape their opinions.

To that point. If Alvin and the Chipmunks had the same power, to make gals extra, EXTRA amorous? I'd have fond memories of them, too. ;);)
 
RandomGuy said:
Not just me.

1980 something+drunk girls+meatloaf=very, very good night.

It's interesting how ones memories surrounding music shape their opinions.

To that point. If Alvin and the Chipmunks had the same power, to make gals extra, EXTRA amorous? I'd have fond memories of them, too. ;);)
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Dear Lord I hope it wasn't the same girl.
 
RandomGuy said:
Steely Dan.

I have many musician friends, whose opinions I trust, and they tell me these guys are phenomenal. I wouldn't know. I've never been able to get through a song. Maybe I'm missing out. I may not ever be able, unless someone ties me down, and brain washes me clockwork Orange style... Have zero hate for them, just can't listen long enough to know.

The name is interesting. Copied from google:
Fans of Beat Generation literature, Fagen and Becker named the band after "Steely Dan III from Yokohama", an oversized, steam-powered strap-on dildo mentioned in the William S. Burroughs novel Naked Lunch.
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This. Times 10. I never got Steely Dan and thought the two main guys were pompous asses in a couple old interviews I saw. Perfectionists that thought their shite didn't stink.
 
I didn't like or understand Steely Dan growing up (up until about 30 or so), but becoming familiar with some of their influences, like Beat literature, and some jazz; along with some general hipsterisms, helped me understand them better. And there's still some nostalgia remembering some of their stuff as a kid in the Seventies. So the last 15 years has included a lot of Dan in my rotation, plus solo projects.

It doesn't bother me when PeteCalvin or others say certain people were A***oles, because that stuff is often largely accurate.
 
Meatloafs main success was because of the songwriting. I don’t remember the guys name, but he’s written everything he’s done. I really don’t think he was viewed as a joke when BOOH2 was released. “I would do anything for Love, but I won’t do that” was a HUGE hit.

I hate non drummers who tell me how great Keith Moon was.
 
lummgr said:
Meatloafs main success was because of the songwriting. I don’t remember the guys name, but he’s written everything he’s done. I really don’t think he was viewed as a joke when BOOH2 was released. “I would do anything for Love, but I won’t do that” was a HUGE hit.

I hate non drummers who tell me how great Keith Moon was.
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Jim Steinman is the songwriter. Or was his name Robert Paulson? Meatloaf and his music always seemed to me like an Elton John/Bernie Taupin situation.

 
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Halfmooncuse said:
Girls never liked meat that loafed!
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Reminds me of an experience with my grandmother, when I was in my early teens (14-15). We saw a bumper sticker that said "National Sex Week... Don't let your meatloaf.".
My grandmother commented that she didn't get it. I could not bring myself to explain it to her, so I remained quiet, biting my lip.
 
CuseFaninVT said:
Agreed. The music is about 1/4 of the reason the other JB is so popular. It's a lifestyle that is very suited for daydreaming and aspiring to, rather than actually living.

It's a scene man.
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No question that Jimmy Buffett is very polarizing. He is going to be 71 years old in a month and he is still selling out concert halls and stadium shows. Amazing businessman. Now he is putting his name on Margaritaville Adult communities for Parrot Heads. Can't you just picture 80 year olds walking around in hula skirts and coconut bras. The guy is a genius. And he keeps releasing new material almost every year. And this summer he will be touring with the Eagles.
 
lummgr said:
Very off topic, but we lost two legends that did not suck on this very day in 1991.

Freddie Mercury and Eric Carr of Kiss.
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My brother was the second drummer in the Bulletboys, played in bands with Stephen Pearcy from Ratt in a band called Vicious Delite and others from that era. When Eric Carr had cancer Robbie was in band managed by Gene Simmons and Gene did a video audition took it to Paul Stanley but Paul said my brother was too young, they were all in their 50's by then and Rob was only 20 or 21 at the time, unfortunately my brother passed in 2012. Just wanted to share this story he was an incredible drummer Robbie Karras was his stage name Robbie Humeniuk played in Paris and Ice Water Mansion in the Syracuse area plenty youtube video available if anyone wants to check him out.
 
Cusegolfer said:
My brother was the second drummer in the Bulletboys, played in bands with Stephen Pearcy from Ratt in a band called Vicious Delite and others from that era. When Eric Carr had cancer Robbie was in band managed by Gene Simmons and Gene did a video audition took it to Paul Stanley but Paul said my brother was too young, they were all in their 50's by then and Rob was only 20 or 21 at the time, unfortunately my brother passed in 2012. Just wanted to share this story he was an incredible drummer Robbie Karras was his stage name Robbie Humeniuk played in Paris and Ice Water Mansion in the Syracuse area plenty youtube video available if anyone wants to check him out.
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You aren’t going to believe this. I played in local bands and my first club band used to play out with Paris. I know exactly who Robbie is and knew he had left and was part of the Bulletboys. When we played out with Paris it was mostly with Timmy Sharpe formerly of Alecstar. I’m very sorry to hear of his passing.
I still have a cassette somewhere with Paris tunes on it.
I could reminisce about this stuff all day. In another band I was in, we also played out with Ice Water Mansion. Small world
 
lummgr said:
You aren’t going to believe this. I played in local bands and my first club band used to play out with Paris. I know exactly who Robbie is and knew he had left and was part of the Bulletboys. When we played out with Paris it was mostly with Timmy Sharpe formerly of Alecstar. I’m very sorry to hear of his passing.
I still have a cassette somewhere with Paris tunes on it.
I could reminisce about this stuff all day. In another band I was in, we also played out with Ice Water Mansion. Small world
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I always worked for my brothers bands so we probably crossed paths at some point, I always loved Paris songs would love a copy if possible? Old Timmy Sharpe with the snap on hair piece and huge cage drum set lol. What was the name of you're band or bands at the time because I was always at Albino's warehouse or whatever it was called before it burned downed we had first studio upstairs on right. I miss those days and wish Robbie never went to L.A. the Bulletboys changed him and music business in los Angeles is like the sewers the city cares about nothing but money. Its sad story but I chose to remember the good days and the Paris and IWM days are times I remember Robbie! Would love to chat about the old times, I talk to lee every know and again they kind of started together.
 
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Cusegolfer said:
I always worked for my brothers bands so we probably crossed paths at some point, I always loved Paris songs would love a copy if possible? Old Timmy Sharpe with the snap on hair piece and huge cage drum set lol. What was the name of you're band or bands at the time because I was always at Albino's warehouse or whatever it was called before it burned downed we had first studio upstairs on right. I miss those days and wish Robbie never went to L.A. the Bulletboys changed him and music business in los Angeles is like the sewers the city cares about nothing but money. Its sad story but I chose to remember the good days and the Paris and IWM days are times aI remember Robbie! Would love to chat about the old times, I talk to lee every know and again they kind of started together with Dave Garlow.(SP)
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I was in a band at the time called LiveWire. We played out with Paris, Axiom, Sacred Death etc...
IF I ever find the tape, I’ll share. I know I have it, but I wouldn’t hold your breath. I remember Alan the big dude with them, he’s hard to forget.
I never played at Albinos until later, but was actually there that night when it burned down. I was like 14-15 when we were playing with them. Syracuse, Binghamton, etc. I continued in the scene for years, and played a lot of shows with Lee and Pete in Marilyn’s Chamber as well. I know I have at least one poster that I think has Robbie on it too. I’ll see if I can find.
Below is a ticket from a show we did in Bville where I went to school, and a show from when I was in New Reign playing with Ice Water Mansion but I imagine that’s after him?
Greatest gig ever was us and Paris in Greene NY, under the stars at motorcycle flattrack races. I’m like 15, and there’s a couple thousand drunk rednecks singing along!
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lummgr said:
I was in a band at the time called LiveWire. We played out with Paris, Axiom, Sacred Death etc...
IF I ever find the tape, I’ll share. I know I have it, but I wouldn’t hold your breath. I remember Alan the big dude with them, he’s hard to forget.
I never played at Albinos until later, but was actually there that night when it burned down. I was like 14-15 when we were playing with them. Syracuse, Binghamton, etc. I continued in the scene for years, and played a lot of shows with Lee and Pete in Marilyn’s Chamber as well. I know I have at least one poster that I think has Robbie on it too. I’ll see if I can find.
Below is a ticket from a show we did in Bville where I went to school, and a show from when I was in New Reign playing with Ice Water Mansion but I imagine that’s after him?
Greatest gig ever was us and Paris in Greene NY, under the stars at motorcycle flattrack races. I’m like 15, and there’s a couple thousand drunk rednecks singing along!
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You know was that Panther Lake or something like that i think my brother i had a accident going there and a guy on a motorcycle came around a corner in his lane head on he got killed was motorcycle fault.
 
Cusegolfer said:
You know was that Panther Lake or something like that i think my brother i had a accident going there and a guy on a motorcycle came around a corner in his lane head on he got killed was motorcycle fault.
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No that was like one of those 100 keg deals nick fuco used to put on? This was just us near Binghamton.
 
lummgr said:
No that was like one of those 100 keg deals nick fuco used to put on? This was just us near Binghamton.
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Yes, after I wrote and thought about it Nicks kegger came to mind.
 
Glenn Frey and Don Henley. I love the Eagles overall, up until The Long Run. Whole was greater than the sum of its parts. Frey and Henley act like they're song writers on par with Lennon & McCartney or the Glimmer Twins, but really, they were co-writers who relied on Tempchin, Souther, Browne, and others to polish their turds. The results were often great, and the band has always been able to harmonize so incredibly well. But the true musicians in that band were Leadon, Felder, Meisner and Walsh. Frey and Henley were poseurs. Frey was more of a musician, and Henley had the Golden Pipes, but as they were leaches who surrounded themselves with weaker people possessing more talent and rode them into submission. Felder's book was interesting, but even the Henley/Frey commissioned "documentary" showed them to be the self-serving dickweeds they are. Henley is not a great drummer, either. His current karaoke version of "The Eagles" is an abomination and should be labeled as an Eagles tribute band.
 
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