2021 Fall Camp Starts Friday August 6th

[orangepassion]

 

[RandomGuy]

 

[AngryOtto]

Elmore looks in the best shape ever.

 

[bigmike]

Joe Rondi with a cameo? Interesting if true.

 

[UpstateSM]

I thought that this was finally going to be the year where I didn’t do this to myself BUT


I think we’re going to be good

 

[RandomGuy]

Joe Rondi with a cameo? Interesting if true.

WAIT. Are you talking about 21 seconds? That's not his TaT. His is an Angel, that is a face. That bugged the ever living crap out of me. I don't know who that is. Rondi broke his leg, all healed up. Who is that?

That vid has nearly 3k views. Are we the only weirdo's that care about how they look in practice? SMH. I guess flexing is what sells. I prefer actual football. I guess we're full on make pretend.(marketing)

If I were a Drama Queen, I might point out that they put Devito holding the ball FIRMLY in that clip-no Shrader. (I'm team Devito). They're still inserting controversy. Apparently, they don't care about any controversy, but we'll get nothing in that regard. Pretty please. Let us just watch them line up in practice, so we can watch some football?

 

[kcsu]

I dont know how anyone knows who has more potential., we know one guy can throw given time but maybe struggles to elude pass rush.. we know one guy can run around , but struggles to throw. until we know what the oline is gonna do we dont really know who can do what in this offense. I am on the Oline has to block train.. if they do then the QBs get a chance to show what then do. if the oline cant block then we become a more run the ball and throw when we can offense and that points towards Shrader. too soon to say thats where we are headed.

Schrader doesn't struggle throwing

 

[upperdeck]

Schrader doesn't struggle throwing

So we can tell this based on his vast amount of throwing experience?

He has an arm, but beyond that we just have his stats of 55% and an 8-5 TD ratio.

His clear advantage is his legs in a system that was really more running based.

He has thrown roughly 1/4 of the passes that TD has and been sacked 1/5 as many times.. So maybe he escapes a bit better but still not much to go by.

If we want to use the QB more in the running game then he has the advantage. if we want to use the QB in the passing game where the oline blocks, its probably TD

coaches will tell us in 4 weeks. I hope they start out using the QB that works best with whatever the oline is showing us.

 

[JRHEETER]

So we can tell this based on his vast amount of throwing experience?

He has an arm, but beyond that we just have his stats of 55% and an 8-5 TD ratio.

His clear advantage is his legs in a system that was really more running based.

He has thrown roughly 1/4 of the passes that TD has and been sacked 1/5 as many times.. So maybe he escapes a bit better but still not much to go by.

If we want to use the QB more in the running game then he has the advantage. if we want to use the QB in the passing game where the oline blocks, its probably TD

coaches will tell us in 4 weeks. I hope they start out using the QB that works best with whatever the oline is showing us.

I mean you equally can’t really say that he struggles or doesn’t struggle with throwing.

Im sure a lot has changed in the last year plus that he hasn’t played QB.

Let’s hold judgement on if he can throw or not throw when we see him actually throwing in a game

Now he showed some issues with accuracy previously but that was a decent amount of time ago. We haven’t seen him really throw at Syracuse.

Nothing about his throwing can be posted as a fact….yet

 

[TheCusian]

I mean he didn’t seem to know what was going on with the women’s basketball team.

They always know more prior to the scandal than they let on.

 

[upperdeck]

I mean you equally can’t really say that he struggles or doesn’t struggle with throwing.

Im sure a lot has changed in the last year plus that he hasn’t played QB.

Let’s hold judgement on if he can throw or not throw when we see him actually throwing in a game

Now he showed some issues with accuracy previously but that was a decent amount of time ago. We haven’t seen him really throw at Syracuse.

Nothing about his throwing can be posted as a fact….yet

I agree.. we have one guy with limited games throwing a little. and one game with a decent chunk of games running for his life. If the oline improves then we get to see what each QB can do. if it plays like it has the last season you pretty much have to go down the new QB path to try and move the ball.

I dont think we really now the complete upside of either QB. Maybe shrader throws great in practice. if you look at the QB sack numbers at Miss St its not much better than TD has had here but the running numbers were much greater..

 

[kcsu]

So we can tell this based on his vast amount of throwing experience?

He has an arm, but beyond that we just have his stats of 55% and an 8-5 TD ratio.

His clear advantage is his legs in a system that was really more running based.

He has thrown roughly 1/4 of the passes that TD has and been sacked 1/5 as many times.. So maybe he escapes a bit better but still not much to go by.

If we want to use the QB more in the running game then he has the advantage. if we want to use the QB in the passing game where the oline blocks, its probably TD

coaches will tell us in 4 weeks. I hope they start out using the QB that works best with whatever the oline is showing us.

Im going based on what i have been told.

 

[upperdeck]

Im going based on what i have been told.

hey. if passing is close to equal but running is better, then that decision to use the QB more in a running game has to be made if they want to go down that path.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[storange]

I thought that this was finally going to be the year where I didn’t do this to myself BUT


I think we’re going to be good

That’s ok, a little optimism won’t kill this board. I’m with you.

 

[Apdaly]

That’s ok, a little optimism won’t kill this board. I’m with you.

I think there is plenty reason for optimism especially depending on what your expectations are. If you think 10-3 then that might leave you disappointed, but I think fighting for a bowl game is a reasonable hope for this team. 3-1 first four games. Win 2 of 3 in the home games conference slate (wake, BC or Pitt, not counting Clemson is this). Find a way to steal one away (FSU, nc state, Lville, va tech). Not easy but I think reasonable.

 

[orangepassion]

So we can tell this based on his vast amount of throwing experience?

He has an arm, but beyond that we just have his stats of 55% and an 8-5 TD ratio.

His clear advantage is his legs in a system that was really more running based.

He has thrown roughly 1/4 of the passes that TD has and been sacked 1/5 as many times.. So maybe he escapes a bit better but still not much to go by.

If we want to use the QB more in the running game then he has the advantage. if we want to use the QB in the passing game where the oline blocks, its probably TD

coaches will tell us in 4 weeks. I hope they start out using the QB that works best with whatever the oline is showing us.

FWIW watched the video again of most of Shrader's pass and rushing attempts (posted right below) and he looks like the anti-Devito (For good and bad). Definitely isn't afraid to take chances and give his receiver a chance to make plays. Has some very accurate throws, but sometimes not careful enough with protecting the ball. Runs fearlessly and gives & takes a bunch of shots. His OL's pass blocking looked almost as bad as ours. Definitely think he can help us and think we'll see 2 QB's (at least) over the course of the year.

 

[PhatOrange]

They always know more prior to the scandal than they let on.

yeah then they should've stepped in a long time ago.

Wildhack's shine is starting to tarnish. Syracuse's big 3 sports are all tanking on his watch.

 

[NineOneSeven]

yeah then they should've stepped in a long time ago.

Wildhack's shine is starting to tarnish. Syracuse's big 3 sports are all tanking on his watch.

 

[PhatOrange]

FWIW watched the video again of most of Shrader's pass and rushing attempts (posted right below) and he looks like the anti-Devito (For good and bad). Definitely isn't afraid to take chances and give his receiver a chance to make plays. Has some very accurate throws, but sometimes not careful enough with protecting the ball. Runs fearlessly and gives & takes a bunch of shots. His OL's pass blocking looked almost as bad as ours. Definitely think he can help us and think we'll see 2 QB's (at least) over the course of the year.

Pretty much a Dungey clone. I give him a pass on the forcing and risk taking since he was a true freshman. Hopefully he dials it down a little with age and doesn't try to force passes. Somewhat encourage with his clips against #2 LSU. One thing that stands out to me is that he steps up in the pocket, north/south and not east/west.

 

[TheCusian]

yeah then they should've stepped in a long time ago.

Wildhack's shine is starting to tarnish. Syracuse's big 3 sports are all tanking on his watch.

Don’t have enough info to render judgment on that, I just bet he knew more than nothing and not enough to act

Football has been in rough shape for 20 years, basketball is fine, lacrosse needed a change and got it

 

[qdawgg]

I think we should make a bowl and I’d be happy as hell with that.

 

[EnviroSciGuy]

I thought that this was finally going to be the year where I didn’t do this to myself BUT


I think we’re going to be good

My fantasy is a two-headed QB monster that is more TD or GS based on opponent and gameplan. I'd love to see us attack Ohio with TD on the field and a fairly conservative ground game, and then reveal the dual-threat Schrader after a series or two at home against RU. Get the fireworks in the dome properly started!

Schiano has always been a poor in-game coach with pretty awful adjustments; I want to see him blow a gasket in real time and watch the smoke rise from his ears.

 

[money3189]

My fantasy is a two-headed QB monster that is more TD or GS based on opponent and gameplan. I'd love to see us attack Ohio with TD on the field and a fairly conservative ground game, and then reveal the dual-threat Schrader after a series or two at home against RU. Get the fireworks in the dome properly started!

Schiano has always been a poor in-game coach with pretty awful adjustments; I want to see him blow a gasket in real time and watch the smoke rise from his ears.

I definitely think it will hurt Schiano’s defense but other than that I’m not a fan of flipping QB’s. It rarely works and that’s not a coincidence. Some one needs to take full control of the offense after the first couple games.

 

[EuclidBred]

Yep. You can improve the game-day environment and promote on social media as much as you want but nobody will come to see a losing team. Don’t really care what you do.

I don't disagree with this in totality but right now we are undefeated which is why the athletic department NEEDS to be leveraging camp to feed the fan base positive news. You can't do that once things start going south. The whole paranoia from Dino and his staff is laughable, especially when your team video guys or athletic department video folks can help you craft the message.

Opposing coaches have five years of film of Dino at Syracuse - there aren't going to be any surprises anymore. If they are running new packages/gimmick stuff - just don't include that in the clips. But put some stuff out there for the fans to get a taste and decide if they want to come to games or not. The casual fans all think we are going to suck. The secrecy doesn't help this sentiment.