2024 bowl projections thread

[NJneer12]

It's not mayo. It's aioli.

 

[VTAaron]

Me watching this bowl projection thread turn into a mayo debate

Duke or Hellmans!

 

[VTAaron]

It's not mayo. It's aioli.

actually Mayo an Aioli are two different things.. now if someone said garlic aioli vs aioli you might have an argument

 

[blust2i3d4]

actually Mayo an Aioli are two different things.. now if someone said garlic aioli vs aioli you might have an argument

Nowadays, aïoli is pretty much synonymous with garlic mayonnaise.

 

[VTAaron]

Nowadays, aïoli is pretty much synonymous with garlic mayonnaise.

I know but an aioli is a garlic emulsion with oil. mayonnaise is is an emulsion of oil and eggs, but not with necessarily garlic, and todays garlic mayonnaise is not an aioli either. It a hybrid combo.

 

[VTAaron]

I know but an aioli is a garlic emulsion with oil. mayonnaise is is an emulsion of oil and eggs, but not with necessarily garlic, and todays garlic mayonnaise is not an aioli either. It a hybrid combo.

mayo bowl it is...

 

[OburgOrange]

I cant eat lobster. But never seen one without it on all my visits to Maine.

Lobster is overrated anyway. Ya, I said what I said

 

[JRHEETER]

I cant eat lobster. But never seen one without it on all my visits to Maine.

Then you aren’t going to the right places in Maine my dude

 

[sutomcat]

On the topic of the day:

I am pro Mayo. Hellmans.

I tried Dukes. It was not bad but I didn't like the tang.

Cool Whip doesn't do it for me either. But I get where people get into whatever it was they had when they were kids and rarely cross over. Respect for all the condiment lovers out there.

That said, I am going to try and build a set of rails to get the train back on the main track. Where we might go bowling.

It looks very likely ND will make the 12 team playoff. That is good for all ACC teams in that they should not be taking an ACC bowl bid this year.

If you accept that Miami is going to beat Syracuse, and no other major upsets are happening, which seems very likely, Miami is going to play SMU in the ACC championship game. The winner is a given to make the playoffs. Could the loser make the playoffs as well? I think it would have to be Miami and right now I am thinking this is 50-50 at best. In this scenario, if Clemson were to beat South Carolina, they could stake a good claim to a playoff spot as well and maybe they get sneak in. But I see them projected to be 18th in the playoff ratings for this week and even with a win over South Carolina, I don't see them getting the benefit of the doubt. They need a bunch of upsets in the SEC to make it but their best bet is to root for Syracuse to beat Miami and then to beat SMU in the ACC championship game.

My best guess for how this all plays out is as follows...

Miami beats Syracuse. Miami beats SMU. Miami gets a playoff spot. Maybe even a bye in the first round.
SMU will be the 13th seed and not get in the playoff.
Clemson will beat South Carolina and be the 14th seed.
Duke beats VT at home and Wake on the road to finish 9-3.
Syracuse does beat UConn to finish 8-4.
Pitt loses to UL and beats BC to finish 8-4.
UL beats Pitt and loses to Kentucky to finish 7-5.
Georgia Tech beats NC State at home and loses to Georgia to finish 7-5.
UNC loses to BC on the road and wins at home against NC State to finish 7-5.

Miami gets a playoff bid.
SMU gets one of the Gator or Pop Tart.
Clemson gets the other. They went Gator last year so they probably get the Pop Tart.
Duke gets the Mayo. Duke's Mayo gets their dream team for the game.
Syracuse gets the Sun.
Pitt gets the Holiday.
I don't really care about the others.

I think a win over UConn gets us a Sun Bowl or Mayo Bowl bid at a minimum.

It is going to be interesting to see where SMU goes. They are a small school and I don't think they have a reputation for traveling. But I project they will beat Virginia on the road and Cal at home to finish the regular season at 11-1. Losing to a top ten program like Miami in the ACC championship game is no shame. They should be a top ten team based on what they have done and should easily make the playoffs (only loss to date was to BYU, which is probably going to win the B12 and also go to the playoffs) but they have played a weak schedule and with the B1G and SEC controlling the playoff committee, this will be punished severely.

Could they fall from the Gator to the Sun so the Gator could take Syracuse? The Gator hasn't had Syracuse in a long while and given the turnout SU fans had for the Pop Tart a few years ago, they might prefer them. But I don't think so. If we were a Clemson, with a huge fanbase that always travels, maybe. Plus while you might think the Sun would love to have SMU, a Texas school, in their bowl, it is 634 miles from Dallas to El Paso. Surely SMU would prefer the Gator and I think the Gator would love to have a team that is 11-2 and in the top 20. So SMU to the Gator.

I think the Holiday and the Sun come down to Pitt and Syracuse. I have Pitt in the Holiday because they have gone to the Sun a couple of times recently. Syracuse has not. I could see Syracuse in the Mayo but if Duke runs the table and goes 9-3, I think the good folks in Charlotte have to take the Blue Devils.

Now if Syracuse runs the table, things could get really interesting. But unless a second ACC school makes the playoff, it is hard to find a way for us to play in the Gator or Pop Tart.

 

[kcsu]

Drawing a culinary line here... it depends on what kinda lobsta roll... but I agree, a bit.. I prefer one vs the other, but I have a wierd combo flavor too on that.

I like them both but I believe that the old school traditional is just
Lobster roll butter.

 

[richmondcuse03]

On the topic of the day:

I am pro Mayo. Hellmans.

I tried Dukes. It was not bad but I didn't like the tang.

Cool Whip doesn't do it for me either. But I get where people get into whatever it was they had when they were kids and rarely cross over. Respect for all the condiment lovers out there.

That said, I am going to try and build a set of rails to get the train back on the main track. Where we might go bowling.

It looks very likely ND will make the 12 team playoff. That is good for all ACC teams in that they should not be taking an ACC bowl bid this year.

If you accept that Miami is going to beat Syracuse, and no other major upsets are happening, which seems very likely, Miami is going to play SMU in the ACC championship game. The winner is a given to make the playoffs. Could the loser make the playoffs as well? I think it would have to be Miami and right now I am thinking this is 50-50 at best. In this scenario, if Clemson were to beat South Carolina, they could stake a good claim to a playoff spot as well and maybe they get sneak in. But I see them projected to be 18th in the playoff ratings for this week and even with a win over South Carolina, I don't see them getting the benefit of the doubt. They need a bunch of upsets in the SEC to make it but their best bet is to root for Syracuse to beat Miami and then to beat SMU in the ACC championship game.

My best guess for how this all plays out is as follows...

Miami beats Syracuse. Miami beats SMU. Miami gets a playoff spot. Maybe even a bye in the first round.
SMU will be the 13th seed and not get in the playoff.
Clemson will beat South Carolina and be the 14th seed.
Duke beats VT at home and Wake on the road to finish 9-3.
Syracuse does beat UConn to finish 8-4.
Pitt loses to UL and beats BC to finish 8-4.
UL beats Pitt and loses to Kentucky to finish 7-5.
Georgia Tech beats NC State at home and loses to Georgia to finish 7-5.
UNC loses to BC on the road and wins at home against NC State to finish 7-5.

Miami gets a playoff bid.
SMU gets one of the Gator or Pop Tart.
Clemson gets the other. They went Gator last year so they probably get the Pop Tart.
Duke gets the Mayo. Duke's Mayo gets their dream team for the game.
Syracuse gets the Sun.
Pitt gets the Holiday.
I don't really care about the others.

I think a win over UConn gets us a Sun Bowl or Mayo Bowl bid at a minimum.

It is going to be interesting to see where SMU goes. They are a small school and I don't think they have a reputation for traveling. But I project they will beat Virginia on the road and Cal at home to finish the regular season at 11-1. Losing to a top ten program like Miami in the ACC championship game is no shame. They should be a top ten team based on what they have done and should easily make the playoffs (only loss to date was to BYU, which is probably going to win the B12 and also go to the playoffs) but they have played a weak schedule and with the B1G and SEC controlling the playoff committee, this will be punished severely.

Could they fall from the Gator to the Sun so the Gator could take Syracuse? The Gator hasn't had Syracuse in a long while and given the turnout SU fans had for the Pop Tart a few years ago, they might prefer them. But I don't think so. If we were a Clemson, with a huge fanbase that always travels, maybe. Plus while you might think the Sun would love to have SMU, a Texas school, in their bowl, it is 634 miles from Dallas to El Paso. Surely SMU would prefer the Gator and I think the Gator would love to have a team that is 11-2 and in the top 20. So SMU to the Gator.

I think the Holiday and the Sun come down to Pitt and Syracuse. I have Pitt in the Holiday because they have gone to the Sun a couple of times recently. Syracuse has not. I could see Syracuse in the Mayo but if Duke runs the table and goes 9-3, I think the good folks in Charlotte have to take the Blue Devils.

Now if Syracuse runs the table, things could get really interesting. But unless a second ACC school makes the playoff, it is hard to find a way for us to play in the Gator or Pop Tart.

Good analysis. I feel like we'd travel better to the Mayo than the Sun -- El Paso is a pain to get to (no direct flights from anywhere in the northeast) and being on NYE, will hurt a bit too. I know the locals support it so perhaps it doesnt matter but selfishly, would rather the Mayo Bowl...or some upsets and Gator/Pop Tart. Gator is supposed to be the top non playoff team so I think we have to upset Miami to be in that convo to jump Clemson/SMU.

 

[JRHEETER]

Good analysis. I feel like we'd travel better to the Mayo than the Sun -- El Paso is a pain to get to (no direct flights from anywhere in the northeast) and being on NYE, will hurt a bit too. I know the locals support it so perhaps it doesnt matter but selfishly, would rather the Mayo Bowl...or some upsets and Gator/Pop Tart. Gator is supposed to be the top non playoff team so I think we have to upset Miami to be in that convo to jump Clemson/SMU.

Certainly wouldn’t be cheap going to El Paso

As much as I would love to attend the Sun Bowl, that might be a bridge too far for me.

Tough because this team has already had two west coast trips already this season.

Hopeful that we could swing Pop Tarts or Mayo Bowl.

Mayo Bowl would be ideal

 

[GoCuse14]

Hellman's for this guy. The only time I like Miracle Whip is on cold turkey sandwiches after Thanksgiving. The tang hits just right.


warm bowl please.

 

[OburgOrange]

Certainly wouldn’t be cheap going to El Paso

As much as I would love to attend the Sun Bowl, that might be a bridge too far for me.

Tough because these team has already had two west coast trips already this season.

Hopeful that we could swing Pop Tarts or Mayo Bowl.

Mayo Bowl would be ideal

Gator, Mayo, or Poptart for this guy. Fingers crossed

 

[TexanMark]

Good analysis. I feel like we'd travel better to the Mayo than the Sun -- El Paso is a pain to get to (no direct flights from anywhere in the northeast) and being on NYE, will hurt a bit too. I know the locals support it so perhaps it doesnt matter but selfishly, would rather the Mayo Bowl...or some upsets and Gator/Pop Tart. Gator is supposed to be the top non playoff team so I think we have to upset Miami to be in that convo to jump Clemson/SMU.

If we win this week we might elevate past the Sun Bowl. Holiday Bowl could be in play. Cal likely will get a Tier 3 Bowl so no issue there.

Beat Yukon and Miami: Gator or Pop Tarts looks more likely. Pop Tarts is our best warm weather travel option. I heard they get the best available non playoff team. However, if Miami is in that spot...would they look at us instead?

 

[JRHEETER]

If we win this week we might elevate past the Sun Bowl. Holiday Bowl could be in play. Cal likely will get a Tier 3 Bowl so no issue there.

Beat Yukon and Miami: Gator or Pop Tarts looks more likely. Pop Tarts is our best warm weather travel option. I heard they get the best available non playoff team. However, if Miami is in that spot...would they look at us instead?

I think Cal is taking a PAC 12 Bowl invite this year no?

 

[TexanMark]

I think Cal is taking a PAC 12 Bowl invite this year no?

Yes...but there was thoughts that Cal could take the PAC12 Holiday Bowl slot...Cuse winning I think killed that possibility.

So the Holiday Bowl chances took an uptick as Cal is unlikely to be involved

 

[sutomcat]

Good analysis. I feel like we'd travel better to the Mayo than the Sun -- El Paso is a pain to get to (no direct flights from anywhere in the northeast) and being on NYE, will hurt a bit too. I know the locals support it so perhaps it doesnt matter but selfishly, would rather the Mayo Bowl...or some upsets and Gator/Pop Tart. Gator is supposed to be the top non playoff team so I think we have to upset Miami to be in that convo to jump Clemson/SMU.

If I had the choice, I agree, I would choose the Mayo Bowl. We have year end at work and getting to El Paso would be so hard I probably couldn't go. I think I could squeeze in most of the other bowls.

On a positive note, in recent years, the most authoritative voice predicting bowl selections has been Brett McMurphy.

I just checked his picks (from yesterday) and he has Syracuse in the Gator. He has Clemson in the Holiday Bowl, which opens a spot for us. Pitt falls all the way to the Pinstripe. He has SMU in the Pop Tarts Bowl, which given their season, is much deserved. Hell, they deserve to be in the playoff (assuming they run the table from here).

I hope he is on top of things on this one.

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[NJneer12]

So UNLV is ranked and 8-2

Ohio is 7-3 (5-1 in the MAC) with the other losses being to Kentucky amd Miami(oh) and probably playing in the MAC CG in a revenge game.

UConn is 7-3.

Not a bad non conference slate looking back.

BC, California, NCSt and VPI all at 5-5 and have opportunities to get to 6 wins.

Possibly played against up to 10 bowl eligible teams this year. Its not a sexy schedule but its not an easy schedule either. (Cuse is usually in that 5-5 group).

 

[MSOrange]

Yes...but there was thoughts that Cal could take the PAC12 Holiday Bowl slot...Cuse winning I think killed that possibility.

So the Holiday Bowl chances took an uptick as Cal is unlikely to be involved

I realize it's a long way from NY, but the Holiday Bowl is a fun trip and a well run bowl. Lots to do in San Diego, but not the best year for us to go since we've already had 2 west coast trips for people to enjoy.

 

[JRHEETER]

If I had the choice, I agree, I would choose the Mayo Bowl. We have year end at work and getting to El Paso would be so hard I probably couldn't go. I think I could squeeze in most of the other bowls.

On a positive note, in recent years, the most authoritative voice predicting bowl selections has been Brett McMurphy.

I just checked his picks (from yesterday) and he has Syracuse in the Gator. He has Clemson in the Holiday Bowl, which opens a spot for us. Pitt falls all the way to the Pinstripe. He has SMU in the Pop Tarts Bowl, which given their season, is much deserved. Hell, they deserve to be in the playoff (assuming they run the table from here).

I hope he is on top of things on this one.

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Clemson played the Gator Bowl last season

I doubt they play it again this season

 

[sutomcat]

Clemson played the Gator Bowl last season

I doubt they play it again this season

I agree. That is one of the few things we can probably bank on.

I assume you are really responding to richmond here, who was thinking Clemson to the Gator.

I agree Clemson would get preference over Syracuse, even if we beat Miami and Clemson loses to South Carolina. They travel really well and while our reputation might have improved some, we all know we are not going to match Clemson when it comes to traveling to a Florida bowl.

But McMurphy is (I think) the only bowl prognosticator that actually has sources.

If he has Clemson in the Holiday and Syracuse in the Gator, I am thinking he may have talked with Clemson officials about which bowl they would prefer in the event they do not make the playoffs.

And maybe they told him they would prefer to play in San Diego rather than Jacksonville or Orlando? I respect him enough to think the placement of Syracuse and Clemson here is more than just incompetence.

 

[JRHEETER]

I agree. That is one of the few things we can probably bank on.

I assume you are really responding to richmond here, who was thinking Clemson to the Gator.

I agree Clemson would get preference over Syracuse, even if we beat Miami. But McMurphy is (I think) the only bowl prognosticator that actually has sources.

If he has Clemson in the Holiday and Syracuse in the Gator, I am thinking he may have talked with Clemson officials about which bowl they would prefer in the event they do not make the playoffs.

And maybe they told him they would prefer to play in San Diego rather than Jacksonville or Orlando? I respect him enough to think the placement of Syracuse and Clemson here is more than just incompetence.

Agreed

More justifying why McMurphy is probably correct and probably with legit sources about where teams will end up

 

[HRE Otto IV]

These games are now glorified scrimmages. Even the "check out the younger guys" angle doesn't always work because those guys might portal out before the next season. Or be portaled/recruited over.

It is harder to travel this time of year. Both getting off of work and travel costs. With the playoff I think it would be better to move the Bowls to the Spring. Especially since all Bowls will need to be mid week now. They are still scrimmages but they will now have more of your future team players. It will also make it a lot easier to attend. April game at YS or Fenway? Count me in. December, no way in heck. Last min flight to Boca? I'll pass. April? Absolutely.

 

[Bulldog04]

Certainly wouldn’t be cheap going to El Paso

As much as I would love to attend the Sun Bowl, that might be a bridge too far for me.

Tough because this team has already had two west coast trips already this season.

Hopeful that we could swing Pop Tarts or Mayo Bowl.

Mayo Bowl would be ideal