2024 Seating Changes

[Chip]

As I read it, Person B picks first because they are in a higher level. The priority points are just the tiebreaker between people in the same level.

They'd be in the same level, they're both All Conference. That's the $1,000 level. The next level starts at $2,500.

 

[JRHEETER]

Hypothetical, tell me if I have this right. Only asking because my group really wants certain seats, so we're just trying to ensure we can get them. Not asking because I have any issues with the process. Feel like I need to be clear on that

Person A's donations are $1,000, which is All Conference level.

Person B's donations are $2,000, which means All Conference level as well (next level is $2,500).

Person A has 50 priority points, Person B only has 10 priority points.

So in this scenario, Person B will have a higher donor rank overall, but Person A would actually select seats first?

Kind of but not really.

Donor Rank is determined by your priority points.

In that scenario that you gave, person A is likely going to select before person B because of the longevity points which has raised their donor rank.

Now if person A was in the level below them and person B was in the level above them, they would pick before person A no matter what their priority points are

Hope I made that not confusing

 

[TexanMark]

hah right -- i'm sorry that offends people but ummm, that's the way the world works. They should see what they do at other universities. God forbid we start winning and sell out the dome all the time. People are really going to complain then.

Yup

A few schools make you rebid for your seats every few years.

 

[Chip]

Kind of but not really.

Donor Rank is determined by your priority points.

In that scenario that you gave, person A is likely going to select before person B because of the longevity points which has raised their donor rank.

Now if person A was in the level below them and person B was in the level above them, they would pick before person A no matter what their priority points are

Hope I made that not confusing

Makes sense. In my head, I just thought donor rank and priority points were two separate things. And that donor rank was just literally a ranking of donated amount.

But you're saying donor rank is everything thrown into the equation.

 

[JRHEETER]

Makes sense. In my head, I just thought donor rank and priority points were two separate things. And that donor rank was just literally a ranking of donated amount.

But you're saying donor rank is everything thrown into the equation.

Exactly. Donor rank is factoring in your priority points as well as what level you are on.

You can move up in a level and raise your donor rank by your longevity bonus that they gave you

 

[Qbobby]

They'd be in the same level, they're both All Conference. That's the $1,000 level. The next level starts at $2,500.

I read more into the question instead of actually reading it. Thank you.

 

[JRHEETER]

Hypothetical, tell me if I have this right. Only asking because my group really wants certain seats, so we're just trying to ensure we can get them. Not asking because I have any issues with the process. Feel like I need to be clear on that

Person A's donations are $1,000, which is All Conference level.

Person B's donations are $2,000, which means All Conference level as well (next level is $2,500).

Person A has 50 priority points, Person B only has 10 priority points.

So in this scenario, Person B will have a higher donor rank overall, but Person A would actually select seats first?

Also to go with this and a reminder to everyone when selecting seats…

SECTION NUMBERS AND SEAT NUMBERS WILL BE CHANGING.

So make sure you are viewing the virtual seating chart so you know what your section number is

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Think you’re overthinking it

If person A is giving more money to FB more than likely they want better seats

If person B is giving less money to football, it’s likely that they have less desirable seats



Most season ticket holders aren’t donating over and above what the requirement is for their ticket.

I get what you’re saying, but I think based on the situation, most donations are only coming in for each sport due to what is required to purchase those seats

If Person1 has four B level FB tickets they are at a $1300 donations for seats. If they give another $200 they are at the $1500 level.

If Person2 has four B level BBall tickets and two C level FB tickets they are at $3000 in donations, or the $2500 level.

Person1 gives $900 more a year to FB, but they pick after Person2 for FB. When the time comes Person2 could see B level FB seats available and take them since they are only $350 more total.

I think the seat priority should go to the greater FB donor.

 

[OburgOrange]

Ha! You don’t have to worry about me. We don’t want to be in the 300s!

Money bags

 

[OttoMets]

... Human nature to assume the worst when something is unknown I suppose.

"Change is most concerning to those who don't control it."

 

[SUbear]

Yup

A few schools make you rebid for your seats every few years.

And they would be schools who have no difficulty in filling their stadiums, not Syracuse. Now I wish it were and hope we become that good, that people are begging to get tickets. Until that happens though perhaps Syracuse should be more considerate to those who have loyally attended through thick and thin.

 

[Consigliere]

Don’t you dare take my seats!

Nothing to worry about. I think I saw "your seats" loaded on a flatbed outside of the Dome Saturday night. Just follow them when the trailer pulls away.

 

[cusefan88]

Has anybody sat in the small 2-3 rows behind the new ADA seating? Is the field view blocked at all?

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Has anybody sat in the small 2-3 rows behind the new ADA seating? Is the field view blocked at all?

I did at the Spring game. You cannot see between the numbers and the sideline, unless you stand up. But that is assuming those accompanying the ADA people are not also standing or moving around.

I also checked the row in front of the ADA seating. You will have people's feet above your head and you better hope no one spills a drink.

 

[Millhouse]

Hypothetical, tell me if I have this right. Only asking because my group really wants certain seats, so we're just trying to ensure we can get them. Not asking because I have any issues with the process. Feel like I need to be clear on that

Person A's donations are $1,000, which is All Conference level.

Person B's donations are $2,000, which means All Conference level as well (next level is $2,500).

Person A has 50 priority points, Person B only has 10 priority points.

So in this scenario, Person B will have a higher donor rank overall, but Person A would actually select seats first?

Your group really wants certain seats to give away almost all the time

 

[Chip]

Your group really wants certain seats to give away almost all the time

I know, but for that one game we attend, so convenient.

I’ve got designs on attending 3 games this year **. Thanksgiving weekend game helps.

** Unless we suck.

 

[cusefan88]

I did at the Spring game. You cannot see between the numbers and the sideline, unless you stand up. But that is assuming those accompanying the ADA people are not also standing or moving around.

I also checked the row in front of the ADA seating. You will have people's feet above your head and you better hope no one spills a drink.

Interesting. Both options aren't so ideal. Thanks for the info.

 

[Chip]

Let me know what he says, because I'm in the same boat.

I renewed too late to make the April 11 update.

There should be another update coming shortly (I think).

He just responded, doesn't have the specific date, expects it to be updated either end of this week or early next week.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

He just responded, doesn't have the specific date, expects it to be updated either end of this week or early next week.

Thanks.

They're not getting any more $$$ out of me, so I am where I am.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

He just responded, doesn't have the specific date, expects it to be updated either end of this week or early next week.

Early next week is basically May.

 

[Chip]

Early next week is basically May.

Yeah, he said there will be one update before May 1, and then another one (assuming the final one) after.

Guessing they want to get those calculations out by Friday if they can, go for one last push.

 

[upperdeck]

I was told the next update we would see is Monday morning

 

[OburgOrange]

Ha! You don’t have to worry about me. We don’t want to be in the 300s!

I’m thinking about moving to 111

 

[JRHEETER]

I’m thinking about moving to 111

do it!!!!! Hahahaha

 

[upperdeck]

Just playing with some soft numbers after conversations about a couple of the larger donor levels.

It looks like about 60% of those levels have people in the FB ticket purchase process. Some FB only, some FB/BB. Given how priority pts work the higher up within a level the more you are going to see the 2 sport groups.

So within each level if you remove 40% of the people you get a more true ranking of how many people are buying FB tickets and might be ahead of you if you wanted to change donor levels.

So in reality jumping from Varsity which contains roughly 3300 people close to 2000 have FB tickets Captain maybe 900 and all-conference maybe 700.

It may not be true all the way up but it does point to roughly 6-7K FB STH. if we AVg that out to 3-4 tickets per group thats 18-25 STs. Does that sound close ?

Since 40% or so are renewing in this last week Those in the lower donor levels should see our levels go up 25-50% in the last week.

SO using fuzzy math

In other words, a global ranking of 3000 now is probably going to go up to 5000 and given 60% of that is FB people 3000 people would be picking ahead of you

a global ranking of 1500 now is probably going to go up to 2700 and given 60% of that is FB people 1600 people would be picking ahead of you


Like all Polls the margin of error for this is +/- 40%